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jccw011 said:
How many Time Magazine covers--US edition or international--does CR7 have?

And if we're using US magazine covers as a metric for popularity, how come Sports Illustrated (which used to have the same ownership as Time) has more covers w/ Messi than with CR7, despite CR7's purported advantage in marketability bc of his language skills that you're claiming?
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I brought the covers up to say that ability to speak the language has some impact on whether someone is gonna be able to connect with a demographic.

Lebron sells shoes successfully in China. He doesn’t speak the language at all.

Speaking the language is not essential but it helps.

Have you taken a look at baseball crowds over the last 10-20 years?

what do they look like? Are a lot of those people also referring to Covid as “the China virus”?

These are things to think about when discussing does the ability to speak English to a majority white audience matter in terms of marketability.
 
Kinfolk said:
I brought the covers up to say that ability to speak the language has some impact on whether someone is gonna be able to connect with a demographic.

Lebron sells shoes successfully in China. He doesn’t speak the language at all.

Speaking the language is not essential but it helps.

Have you taken a look at baseball crowds over the last 10-20 years?

what do they look like? Are a lot of those people also referring to Covid as “the China virus”?

These are things to think about when discussing does the ability to speak English to a majority white audience matter in terms of marketability.
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So your argument has boiled down to “what will white racist people think?” Lol. Again, it’s time to just let this go.
 
So would one say SAS is supporting white supremacy?
 
Kinfolk said:
Ronaldo is more popular here because he speaks English.

Where would Messi be if he could conduct interviews and sell cleats in English?

Speaking English isn’t mandatory it just helps if you’re gonna do business here.

There was a lot of speculation as to why Time Magazine put messi onits covers for Europe and Asia but left him off the US cover for the same issue:
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Not saying his lack of English speaking is the only reason but it is a factor. You guys can disagree all you want but it doesn’t change the facts.
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The only reason why this is is because Cristiano is pushed by nike which is a US company and Messi by Adidas which is a German company
 
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What Rachael Nichols said isn't based on jealousy, its not necessarily about an open mic she didn't know how to turn off. Not the point. The point is actually how much entitlement or privelege she thinks she has at ESPN, not wanting to be replaced. Believing that Taylor needed "more things to do" there, given ESPN's "crappy long-time record on diversity". Certainly implying that she thinks one gets a job by race and that a white woman shouldn't lose her job. It's sounding ignorant and racist.
 
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What Rachael Nichols said isn't based on jealousy, its not necessarily about an open mic she didn't know how to turn off. Not the point. The point is actually how much entitlement or privelege she thinks she has at ESPN, not wanting to be replaced. Believing that Taylor needed "more things to do" there, given ESPN's "crappy long-time record on diversity". Certainly implying that she thinks one gets a job by race and that a white woman shouldn't lose her job. It's sounding ignorant and racist.
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So the fact that she was doing all that long winded pretending to be an ally isn’t the point either?

It’s not just about one thing with her. . She’s jealous, entitled and completely out of touch. She thought she could privately confide in someone (who may also be pretending to be an ally… that remains to be seen) and burned herself badly in the process.

She is jealous of Maria Taylor. She is jealous of Malika Andrews. She thinks that they were given something when the truth is that they EARNED it.

They look better than her, they’re younger and obviously more talented.

She shouldn’t be allowed to grow any further under the NBA umbrella after pretending to care about social justice issues.

She shouldn’t be the beneficiary of any more good will from the players that she obviously doesn’t think highly of beyond seeing them as a vehicle to further her personal ambitions.
 
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Kinfolk said:
Ronaldo is more popular here because he speaks English.

Where would Messi be if he could conduct interviews and sell cleats in English?

Speaking English isn’t mandatory it just helps if you’re gonna do business here.

There was a lot of speculation as to why Time Magazine put messi onits covers for Europe and Asia but left him off the US cover for the same issue:
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Not saying his lack of English speaking is the only reason but it is a factor. You guys can disagree all you want but it doesn’t change the facts.
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More popular? The espn article says otherwise.

And you argued that it would ruin baseball. How did Messi’s non English ruin anything?. He still makes more money than Ronaldo off endorsements without having a company dedicated to protecting his image.
Ronaldo speaks like 3 different languages vs Messi’s 1 language yet he is still more profitable.
 
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Stephen A Smiths apology is a great example of what a real apology looks like. In this day and age of people whining about cancel culture after saying offensive sh&#. I was rather impressed. It was well timed and thoughtful.
 
jape said:
More popular? The espn article says otherwise.

And you argued that it would ruin baseball. How did Messi’s non English ruin anything?. He still makes more money than Ronaldo off endorsements without having a company dedicated to protecting his image.
Ronaldo speaks like 3 different languages vs Messi’s 1 language yet he is still more profitable.
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Big facts
 
Yeah soccer is what it is in America, but for those who are already fans the top player in the world will be the top player in the US.
 
How can he be the most popular player in the USA but he doesn’t speak American!!!!!!
 
Here’s the main point, this whole language barrier thing is just trash. There’s no backing of it, and it was probably just said to be talked about just like we’re doing now. Click bait A Smith did his job.
 
Real question though would you all do the Steven A shuffle for 12Ms a year? Son hasn't been a journalist in 20 plus years.
 
He can speak English, but him not being a white american does hurt his marketability in a sport that needs to grow with young people. They barely could market Trout and Bryce Harper.
 
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