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Tell me, how can you NOT think Tupac is the G.O.A.T?
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there are soooo many people better than pac...
Pac is the most over rated HUMAN ever
Pac is the most over rated HUMAN ever
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The truth.
zokid- X and Pac cry on there rhymes? LOL...i'm the type who rather listen to someone paint me a picture and make you feel his music and that's whatthey did IMO...like i said it is all up to what YOU like....no one is saying it has to be emotion>talent....it's all a personal choice
YardFather- Em is in my top 5 FOR SURE...so I agree 100% on that...i said Pac and X with the emotion bc it just stands out more for them...but no doubt emis there
and Pac ain't the only rapper who's came out with bad music....Nas is in my top 5 also but can you tell me he doesn't have bad music? He has themost bad music to be mentioned with the other GOATs
and Pac overrated? I ain't gettin into this again but IMO Biggie is BY FAR the most overrated rapper ever....but there is no point in arguing thisanymore
P.S. - Lord Knows is a @+%$!@ song? LOL....I just don't get some of y'all...GRODT over MATW?
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Originally Posted by AiRodney23
>>>>Pac.
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Originally Posted by bbllplaya23
The truth.
zokid- X and Pac cry on there rhymes? LOL...i'm the type who rather listen to someone paint me a picture and make you feel his music and that's what they did IMO...like i said it is all up to what YOU like....no one is saying it has to be emotion>talent....it's all a personal choice
YardFather- Em is in my top 5 FOR SURE...so I agree 100% on that...i said Pac and X with the emotion bc it just stands out more for them...but no doubt em is there
and Pac ain't the only rapper who's came out with bad music....Nas is in my top 5 also but can you tell me he doesn't have bad music? He has the most bad music to be mentioned with the other GOATs
and Pac overrated? I ain't gettin into this again but IMO Biggie is BY FAR the most overrated rapper ever....but there is no point in arguing this anymore
P.S. - Lord Knows is a @+%$!@ song? LOL....I just don't get some of y'all...GRODT over MATW?
pac is mad overratted...
put it like this... if pac never died... he would have been forgotten by now... or at best be like snoop... still dropping but you know it aint gona behard...
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Because he isn't. It's just that simple.
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To keep it funky this _ made some trash @!@ music that gets overlooked.
theres NO way he was even close to G.O.A.T...hell id put PUN before PAC
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Pac isn't the G.O.A.T., but he's the most influential.
No one did it better than Frank White.
No one did it better than Frank White.
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"I'll probably NEVER get the props I feel I ever deserve
But I'll never be served, my spot is forever reserved"
What a shame
IMO, Eminem is easily the best DOA. To anyone who disagrees ... go listen to "Fubba U CubbaCubba" before you reply.
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Originally Posted by fortheloveofthegame8
"I'll probably NEVER get the props I feel I ever deserve
But I'll never be served, my spot is forever reserved"
What a shame....Should be in everyone's top 10 DOA
Don't forget about:
IMO, Eminem is easily the best. To anyone who disagrees ... go listen to "Fubba U Cubba Cubba" before you reply.
eminem was the best...
he need some rap viagra cuz lately he been softer then a fine cashmere cardigan...
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I hope you get chased by a pitbull tomorrow...
BaltimoreLove
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Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze
I hope you get chased by a pitbull tomorrow...
that was directed at me?
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Nah....dude talking about Em is easily the best DOA....
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It's just a discussion about music. No need to take it personally ... lolOriginally Posted by abeautifulhaze
I hope you get chased by a pitbull tomorrow...
But here's my reasoning .... feel free to give yours why he isn't the best
1. I think its a pretty common knowledge that Eminem is the best lyricist (Wordplay, Breath Control, etc ...)
2. He has shown the most emotion of any rapper (DMX maybe?, no one else comes close)
3. He dropped arguably 3 classic albums (Yes, Jay dropped 3 arguably classic albums as well) ... but to my knowledge no one has dropped 4.
4. He was the first to successfully break the "color barrier" in hip-hop
5. He is the only rapper to have 2 diamond albums (I know sales don't mean everything, but you don't just stumble upon two diamond albums.)
6. He has created some of the greatest diss tracks ever (Nail In The Coffin, Hail Mary, The Sauce, I Remember)
7. He is one of the greatest freestylers ever (2nd in the rap olympics) (see video below)
8. He's helped establish other hip-hop giants (50 Cent, G-Unit, D-12 (maybe a reach))
9. We've seen him grow and mature through his career (can be said for many artists as well)
10. Last but certainly not least, Name me ONE person who has outshined him on a track ....
.................. He's outshined: Jay-Z, Biggie, 2Pac, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg, Jadakiss, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, and The Game to name a few ....
and for the nail in the coffin (pun intended) .... keep in mind that this is a freestyle
Pay attention from 1:00 on ....
Like I said, feel free to tell my why you disagree ... this is a discussion afterall
EDIT: I thought of a few more ... haha
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you may have been able to argue Em but in my opinion he's fallen off too much recently. as far as pac being the goat though, i'd put Jay, Nas, Ghost,Rakim, KRS, and Biggie ahead of him easily
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How do you know that? Please Pac is far more remembered than Biggie. People act like Pac wasn't liked when he passed. LOL. Did his death make himmore popular? Sure...but if he is still listened to almost 12 years later....there is a reason.....Originally Posted by PeterJamesThe3rd
Originally Posted by bbllplaya23
The truth.
zokid- X and Pac cry on there rhymes? LOL...i'm the type who rather listen to someone paint me a picture and make you feel his music and that's what they did IMO...like i said it is all up to what YOU like....no one is saying it has to be emotion>talent....it's all a personal choice
YardFather- Em is in my top 5 FOR SURE...so I agree 100% on that...i said Pac and X with the emotion bc it just stands out more for them...but no doubt em is there
and Pac ain't the only rapper who's came out with bad music....Nas is in my top 5 also but can you tell me he doesn't have bad music? He has the most bad music to be mentioned with the other GOATs
and Pac overrated? I ain't gettin into this again but IMO Biggie is BY FAR the most overrated rapper ever....but there is no point in arguing this anymore
P.S. - Lord Knows is a @+%$!@ song? LOL....I just don't get some of y'all...GRODT over MATW?
pac is mad overratted...
put it like this... if pac never died... he would have been forgotten by now... or at best be like snoop... still dropping but you know it aint gona be hard...
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Originally Posted by fortheloveofthegame8
It's just a discussion about music. No need to take it personally ... lolOriginally Posted by abeautifulhaze
I hope you get chased by a pitbull tomorrow...
But here's my reasoning .... feel free to give yours why he isn't the best
1. I think its a pretty common knowledge that Eminem is the best lyricist (Wordplay, Breath Control, etc ...)
2. He has shown the most emotion of any rapper (DMX maybe?, no one else comes close)
3. He dropped arguably 3 classic albums (Yes, Jay dropped 3 arguably classic albums as well) ... but to my knowledge no one has dropped 4.
4. He was the first to successfully break the "color barrier" in hip-hop
5. He is the only rapper to have 2 diamond albums (I know sales don't mean everything, but you don't just stumble upon two diamond albums.)
6. He has created some of the greatest diss tracks ever (Nail In The Coffin, Hail Mary, The Sauce, I Remember)
7. He is one of the greatest freestylers ever (2nd in the rap olympics) (see video below)
8. He's helped establish other hip-hop giants (50 Cent, G-Unit, D-12 (maybe a reach))
9. We've seen him grow and mature through his career (can be said for many artists as well)
10. Last but certainly not least, Name me ONE person who has outshined him on a track ....
.................. He's outshined: Jay-Z, Biggie, 2Pac, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg, Jadakiss, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, and The Game to name a few ....
and for the nail in the coffin (pun intended) .... keep in mind that this is a freestyle
Pay attention from 1:00 on ....
Like I said, feel free to tell my why you disagree ... this is a discussion afterall
EDIT: I thought of a few more ... haha
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But here's my reasoning .... feel free to give yours why he isn't the best
1. I think its a pretty common knowledge that Eminem is the best lyricist (Wordplay, Breath Control, etc ...)
2. He has shown the most emotion of any rapper (DMX maybe?, no one else comes close)
3. He dropped arguably 3 classic albums (Yes, Jay dropped 3 arguably classic albums as well) ... but to my knowledge no one has dropped 4.
4. He was the first to successfully break the "color barrier" in hip-hop
5. He is the only rapper to have 2 diamond albums (I know sales don't mean everything, but you don't just stumble upon two diamond albums.)
6. He has created some of the greatest diss tracks ever (Nail In The Coffin, Hail Mary, The Sauce, I Remember)
7. He is one of the greatest freestylers ever (2nd in the rap olympics) (see video below)
8. He's helped establish other hip-hop giants (50 Cent, G-Unit, D-12 (maybe a reach))
9. We've seen him grow and mature through his career (can be said for many artists as well)
10. Last but certainly not least, Name me ONE person who has outshined him on a track ....
.................. He's outshined: Jay-Z, Biggie, 2Pac, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg, Jadakiss, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, and The Game to name a few ....
Thank you sir, great to see someone on NT back up there opinion with good reasons, not to mention 10.
I was going to make a topic explaining why Em is THE GOAT, but I don't need to anymore, you just did it for me.
Yeah Encore wasn't as good as his previous three albums, but it wasn't bad. There were some great tracks on it and it is still far and beyond betterthan most work being put out now. When you have THREE classic albums in a row, yes three, it's damn near impossible to follow them up with another.
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I hate hearing this. I understand if you feel that he's the greatest but don't sit there and try to pretend thatits a fact. I never seen anyone rapper touch the public the way Pac has and that's great and all but thats where it stops for me. Reality is, a lot ofpeople let their emotions get the best of them and that's one of the main reason why he's put him on such a high pedestal, because they can relate tohis music. To me, dude is nothing special. I wouldn't put him in my top 10 or 20. I've given his albums a few spins and he doesn't catch myattention (except for 7 Day Theory). I rather listen to Budden's displaying his emotions than Pac. That's just me though. If you Love dudes music,that's good and all but don't get ahead of yourself...its an opinion. Side Note: The reason why Pac and Big get so much damn respect is because theypassed away. It's quite obvious.
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Easy. Pac fans are defensive. Smh.
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Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze
........musically destory/eclipse/demolish/(pick a verb) anything Pac could ever dream of putting out.
Pick any 1 song on this album.....and you'll probably find more gems than in Pacs entire discography.
Stillmatic is the album Pac would have made if he had Nas's level of lyrical skill....but he was never anywhere close. There is alot of Pac influence on this album though.
If we are talking about strictly Hip-Hop music and not image, legend, legacy, etc...Pac never even put out an album on the level of....
With all of that being said...he's in my top 10.
Ant, do us all a favor and ban this idiot.
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Won't argue with anyone, to each their own, but Pac is my favourite ... its songs like Keep ya head up, changes, unconditional love, dear mama, i aint madat ya, baby dont cry, brendas got a baby etc ... that make him my favourite ... plus he is probably most of yall favourite rapper's favourite rapper.