THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[thirdtimearound]

Okafor has a knee strain. Yikes.

 

[coldcity]

sixers cursed

 

[nick.]

Philly's gonna be the first team to start 5 power forwards in an NBA game

 

[Arthur Shelby]

 

[pums]

I honestly want to see Andrew Bynums reaction when he heard the Odom news

 

[jpzx]

Wasn't thought to be serious anyway, but good news:

@APkrawczynski: Ricky Rubio said quad and ankle both feel good. If all goes well at practice tomorrow, he'll play Sunday in Memphis

 

[shoeking2102]

 
SportsCenter  ‏@SportsCenter   5m5 minutes ago

THIS JUST IN: Lamar Odom is conscious, breathing on his own in Las Vegas hospital. (via @ramonashelburne)

 

[lawdog1]

Wow. That is good news. Now I just wonder how severe the brain damage is.

 

[a-friend]

SI.com Sixers gossip:
 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Covert dealings, Embiid's attitude are undermining Philadelphia's 'process'
.....

The friction (between ownership and team president Scott O'Neil and general manager Sam Hinkie) may come to a head, though, over Hinkie’s decision to select Kansas center Joel Embiid at No. 3 overall in the 2014 draft. Embiid was considered to have can’t-miss talent and upside, but was red-flagged by multiple teams that season because of back and foot issues that surfaced during and after his only, injured-shortened season as a Jayhawk.

Embiid was selected with the hope that he would follow the same pattern as Nerlens Noel, who was coming off an ACL tear when he was picked in 2013, and missed his rookie season (which helped the Sixers be bad enough again to land the Embiid pick). Noel was excellent as a rookie in 2014–15, especially as the anchor of a surprisingly decent Philadelphia defense. Hinkie certainly was aware of Embiid’s physical issues when he took a calculated risk to select him, but it’s unclear whether he understood the depth of Embiid’s attitude concerns, which have only worsened as a pro.

The fact that head coach Brett Brown sent Embiid home from a West Coast road trip last season for being insubordinate to the team’s strength coach and training staff is well documented, but according to a source, the tipping point in the decision was Embiid physically threatening the strength coach on that road trip. According to sources, this followed a pattern of insubordination from Embiid during the rehabilitation of his initial foot injury that sidelined him for the entire 2014–15 season, where he would repeatedly refuse to answer questions from the training staff about his workouts and therapy sessions.

Embiid’s lax approach to his rehab and the circumstances surrounding the second foot surgery he needed this past summer — which appears like it will cost him the entire 2015–16 season — has caused the organization much anxiety. The simple task of getting Embiid to consistently wear his walking boot was a challenge for the franchise, and multiple sources suggested that some people in Philadelphia’s front office wonder whether a second surgery would have been necessary if Embiid had worn the boot as much as he was told to.

Also, according to multiple sources, Harris did not want Embiid to attend the annual Las Vegas Summer League this past July so they could proceed with the surgery on his navicular bone. Brown and Hinkie were both given strict instructions by Harris to keep Embiid from going to Vegas, yet each of them put the onus on the other to handle the job, and neither did.

Embiid was determined to go to Vegas to party for the balance of the 10 days of summer league. While Embiid was in Vegas, he was mandated to wear the walking boot in advance of the second surgery, but Embiid not only refused to wear the boot, but he carried himself as if nothing was wrong with the foot, shooting jumpers and even occasionally dunking. These actions have given rise to the theory that Embiid actually re-broke his foot, rather than the initial injury not healing properly. It also led to Embiid having the surgery a month later than the club originally had hoped.

This type of disregard for instruction also extends to Embiid’s dietary habits. Per a source, the Sixers’ training staff was so concerned about what he was eating, they stocked the refrigerator in his downtown hotel residence each week with healthy food. When a staffer went to restock the fridge each week, most everything was uneaten and unopened, and they were throwing out the fruits and vegetables every week. When the team subsequently asked to see Embiid’s room service bill, they found that most days he was ordering junk food along with his signature beverage, a pitcher of Shirley Temples. Embiid also was frequently seen feasting on chicken fingers and hot dogs at and after games.

Although there’s nothing particularly uncommon about a 21-year-old with poor dietary habits, the pattern of Embiid’s chronic insubordination makes this part and parcel to a larger issue. While reports of Embiid ballooning to 300 pounds were patently false, Embiid’s conditioning and dietary habits are a constant source of strife for the Sixers front office, per multiple sources.

http://www.si.com/thecauldron/2015/...rs-sam-hinkie-joel-embiid-brett-brown-process

(not directed at you ryguy just quoting the article)

Didn't we tell you guys that Embiid was done?

Who was taking up for or defending this guy?

His career is over, do you believe it now, or no? Dude is done.

 

[a-friend]

I believe Lamar will pull through

Me too. Me too.

He's been through a lot. He isn't going out without a fight, I wouldn't be surprised to see him make a full recovery

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

If dude is OK and functioning I feel like that's a damn miracle 

 

[Moheezy]

SI.com Sixers gossip:

 
 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Covert dealings, Embiid's attitude are undermining Philadelphia's 'process'

.....


The friction (between ownership and team president Scott O'Neil and general manager Sam Hinkie) may come to a head, though, over Hinkie’s decision to select Kansas center Joel Embiid at No. 3 overall in the 2014 draft. Embiid was considered to have can’t-miss talent and upside, but was red-flagged by multiple teams that season because of back and foot issues that surfaced during and after his only, injured-shortened season as a Jayhawk.


Embiid was selected with the hope that he would follow the same pattern as Nerlens Noel, who was coming off an ACL tear when he was picked in 2013, and missed his rookie season (which helped the Sixers be bad enough again to land the Embiid pick). Noel was excellent as a rookie in 2014–15, especially as the anchor of a surprisingly decent Philadelphia defense. Hinkie certainly was aware of Embiid’s physical issues when he took a calculated risk to select him, but it’s unclear whether he understood the depth of Embiid’s attitude concerns, which have only worsened as a pro.


The fact that head coach Brett Brown sent Embiid home from a West Coast road trip last season for being insubordinate to the team’s strength coach and training staff is well documented, but according to a source, the tipping point in the decision was Embiid physically threatening the strength coach on that road trip. According to sources, this followed a pattern of insubordination from Embiid during the rehabilitation of his initial foot injury that sidelined him for the entire 2014–15 season, where he would repeatedly refuse to answer questions from the training staff about his workouts and therapy sessions.


Embiid’s lax approach to his rehab and the circumstances surrounding the second foot surgery he needed this past summer — which appears like it will cost him the entire 2015–16 season — has caused the organization much anxiety. The simple task of getting Embiid to consistently wear his walking boot was a challenge for the franchise, and multiple sources suggested that some people in Philadelphia’s front office wonder whether a second surgery would have been necessary if Embiid had worn the boot as much as he was told to.


Also, according to multiple sources, Harris did not want Embiid to attend the annual Las Vegas Summer League this past July so they could proceed with the surgery on his navicular bone. Brown and Hinkie were both given strict instructions by Harris to keep Embiid from going to Vegas, yet each of them put the onus on the other to handle the job, and neither did.


Embiid was determined to go to Vegas to party for the balance of the 10 days of summer league. While Embiid was in Vegas, he was mandated to wear the walking boot in advance of the second surgery, but Embiid not only refused to wear the boot, but he carried himself as if nothing was wrong with the foot, shooting jumpers and even occasionally dunking. These actions have given rise to the theory that Embiid actually re-broke his foot, rather than the initial injury not healing properly. It also led to Embiid having the surgery a month later than the club originally had hoped.


This type of disregard for instruction also extends to Embiid’s dietary habits. Per a source, the Sixers’ training staff was so concerned about what he was eating, they stocked the refrigerator in his downtown hotel residence each week with healthy food. When a staffer went to restock the fridge each week, most everything was uneaten and unopened, and they were throwing out the fruits and vegetables every week. When the team subsequently asked to see Embiid’s room service bill, they found that most days he was ordering junk food along with his signature beverage, a pitcher of Shirley Temples. Embiid also was frequently seen feasting on chicken fingers and hot dogs at and after games.


Although there’s nothing particularly uncommon about a 21-year-old with poor dietary habits, the pattern of Embiid’s chronic insubordination makes this part and parcel to a larger issue. While reports of Embiid ballooning to 300 pounds were patently false, Embiid’s conditioning and dietary habits are a constant source of strife for the Sixers front office, per multiple sources.

http://www.si.com/thecauldron/2015/...rs-sam-hinkie-joel-embiid-brett-brown-process

(not directed at you ryguy just quoting the article)

Didn't we tell you guys that Embiid was done?

Who was taking up for or defending this guy?

His career is over, do you believe it now, or no? Dude is done.

I saw we trade him for another draft pick.

I don't like article at all, it's based off gossip, rumours, and opinions. The Sixers are not in as bad a situation as this writer makes it out to be.

Brown is not a bad coach.
Saric wants to play here.
MCW is garbage. The trade for a Lakers pick that is only top 3 protected will seem like a no brainer once it comes to fruition.

This is overblown gossip.

 

[ny mavurs]

Who y'all see helping their team out more this season Rondo or Rubio?

 

[a-friend]

I saw we trade him for another draft pick.

I don't like article at all, it's based off gossip, rumours, and opinions. The Sixers are not in as bad a situation as this writer makes it out to be.

That article is not gossip and rumors and opinions.

Embiid has narrated his offcourt pleasures on Twitter and IG, all of them.

That article is straight Facts man.

 

[akajae]

are his pants down?

 
[h1]UPDATE: LAMAR ODOM’S HEART IS RESPONDING[/h1]






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TMZ has just reported that #LamarOdom’s heart has improved in a major way! Test
 were ran on his heart early Friday morning and by the looks of the results, his heart is functioning much better.



This is a good sign
 that a critical organ is responding. They have asked for “calm” in Lamar’s room, asking that no one have access. It’s said that Khloe Kardashian
 has not left Lamar’s bedside
. 

 
SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 
 5m5 minutes ago



THIS JUST IN: Lamar Odom is conscious, breathing on his own in Las Vegas hospital. (via @ramonashelburne
)

candyman

 

[Hank Scorpio]

If dude is OK and functioning I feel like that's a damn miracle 

It really would be. Was never a Lakers or Lamar Odom fan, but you have pull for someone when they're in situations like this.

It's great to read he's conscious and breathing on his own, but what's the status of the other organs which were reportedly not "failing"? I can't help but to wonder if he'll ever be the same person again.

 

[Moheezy]

[thread="629224"] [/thread]
I saw we trade him for another draft pick.


I don't like article at all, it's based off gossip, rumours, and opinions. The Sixers are not in as bad a situation as this writer makes it out to be.

That article is not gossip and rumors and opinions.

Embiid has narrated his offcourt pleasures on Twitter and IG, all of them.

That article is straight Facts man.

I am not talking about Embiid. I am talking about the picture he is painting for some of these so called facts.

Other minority owners not being happy? Who? Will Smith?
Questioning Brown's pedigree? pointing out the 130 losses in two seasons? What else would you expect from this D-league team.
Talking about Saric's father but not mentioning that Saric himself wants to play in the NBA asap.
And MCW is not THAT good. He's been mediocre for the Bucks at best. This will seem like a no brainer if the Lakers pick comes to fruition.

The Embiid thing does suck though. Bynum 2.0 if all is true. Better to trade him while he still may have some value.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Who y'all see helping their team out more this season Rondo or Rubio?

I wouldn't be surprised if Rubio was traded before the deadline if it's not working

 

[Moheezy]

I would choose Rubio because he is a top defender at PG, has not reached his prime yet and still has some glimpse of hope that he will develop a jumpshot. Plus attitude goes a long way.

That being said, I do wish Rondo somewhat returns to his old self, becomes a top 10 PG and helps Sactown with a playoff birth.

 

[a-friend]

 

 

[thread="629224"]The 2015 Nba Pre Season Thread Best Wishes To Lamar Odom/36360#post_24344362​[/thread]
I saw we trade him for another draft pick.


I don't like article at all, it's based off gossip, rumours, and opinions. The Sixers are not in as bad a situation as this writer makes it out to be.

That article is not gossip and rumors and opinions.

Embiid has narrated his offcourt pleasures on Twitter and IG, all of them.

That article is straight Facts man.

I am not talking about Embiid. I am talking about the picture he is painting for some of these so called facts.

Other minority owners not being happy? Who? Will Smith?
Questioning Brown's pedigree? pointing out the 130 losses in two seasons? What else would you expect from this D-league team.
Talking about Saric's father but not mentioning that Saric himself wants to play in the NBA asap.
And MCW is not THAT good. He's been mediocre for the Bucks at best. This will seem like a no brainer if the Lakers pick comes to fruition.

The Embiid thing does suck though. Bynum 2.0 if all is true. Better to trade him while he still may have some value.

Damn, my bad. I didn't read any of that.

I thought the link was the quote that was posted. 

I need to read the article then, damn, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[abematic]

Who y'all see helping their team out more this season Rondo or Rubio?

Neither can shoot, tough choice. 

I say Rondo, based off of athleticism. 

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Rondo, based on situation they've been placed in.

 

[xbiker47]

Rondo imo

 

[sea manup]

Has Rubio played a full season yet?

 

[pmatic]

Rubio.