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Originally Posted by SCuse7

I see the same Syracuse questions every time.

"Why aren't we getting any props. We have Rautin and Devo back...."
I'm going to tell you this from a Syracuse perspective and you would agree. Most of the fans are delusional and think the team is better thanwhat the "experts" say every year. They fail to do research on the rest of the NCAA and are very closeminded toward the rest of the country. Boeheimis god to many of them and can't do any wrong. If anything, Boeheim should have been called into question for many of his decisions last year. Granted, theteam was injury riddled but many of the moves he made were "What the hell did he just do?". The game has passed him by, refute it if you want butthere's a reason that this team didn't make the NCAA two years in a row. He is finally starting to realize that you have to leave New York to berecognized at the end of the year and is attempting to revamp his piss poor 2-3 from last year.

Another thing I hate is when people say Rautins and Devo are coming back. Are you $$$$%%$ kidding me? Rautins is a one dimensional player. Other than ajumpshot he offers nothing. He is slow and weak. Devendorf is a hell of a player but this season is going to be more of an experiment than anything. He hasbeen rehabbing pretty hard but many questions still remain as to whether his ACL will hold up and has he fully recovered. He looked very slow during thepreseason but we'll really see what the season will be like come Sunday when he'll have to play 25+ minutes a game. Donte' Greene leaving was ablessing in disguise. He was the antithesis of a team player. He hated the 2-3, he couldn't play D to save his life and his shot selection was
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. Scoop Jardine had nothing but bad things to say about Greene when he wasat Dyckman this past summer.

It doesn't help the team this year that they literally imploded at the end of the year. Their mental awareness is going to be deservedly called out. Hadthey won three or four of those games that they lost there's no question as to whether or not they would have been in tournament last year. No excuses canbe made this season if they fail to reach the NCAAs this season, they somewhat improved their schedule and the Big East as a whole has gotten better. This teamhas too much experience not to want to right the wrongs of the last two years. All I know is that if this team doesn't make it again, sports radio inSyracuse will begin to call for Boeheim's head there (you and I both know what the radio is like there especially when they didn't make it 2 yearsago).
 
Did anyone get to catch Northeastern v. Michigan on ESPNU last night? If so can you tell me how NE's guard Chaisson Allen played? That's my boy fromhigh school, his numbers are great but I would just love to see how he is lookin out there.
 
J'mison is ridiculously slow
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Holiday limited in the 1sthalf....it's ugly when ucla faces a team w/ the same style
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Originally Posted by allen3xis

UCLA in a bit of a game, huh?
Didn't Gottlieb (might have been someone else) say in his chat that Miami OH would probably give UCLA a good game?

Edit: It was Andy Katz...

SprungOnSports (Long Island): Do you think UCLA will have some early growing pains after losing Love and a bunch of upper-classmen?

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Andy Katz: (11:09 AM ET ) Yes. Losing to Duke in New York (let alone potentially struggling with Miami of Ohio isn't a reach this week) or at Texas isn't out of the question.
 
I'm going to tell you this from a Syracuse perspective and you would agree. Most of the fans are delusional and think the team is better than what the "experts" say every year. They fail to do research on the rest of the NCAA and are very closeminded toward the rest of the country.
Petey?
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I love what petey does with a mid major like Cornell that gave Cuse a game last year..

then hypes them as a mid major to death
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Miami had their chances....some bad calls on both sides down the stretch.

Josh Shipp really thinks he's big time, doesn't he?
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

Miami had their chances....some bad calls on both sides down the stretch.

Josh Shipp really thinks he's big time, doesn't he?

I missed the game, I guess dude been jackin shots again like always?
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Originally Posted by Al3xis

Josh Shipp really thinks he's big time, doesn't he?
I hate this $%@%##!. He's not good at all. I hate him even more for getting away with that blatant foul at the end of the UCLA/A&M game inthe tourney last March
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I was looking at pictures for a new avy, and came across this...wildkycat should get a kick out of it...
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That mugshot
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Originally Posted by Lazy B

Originally Posted by SCuse7

I see the same Syracuse questions every time.

"Why aren't we getting any props. We have Rautin and Devo back...."
I'm going to tell you this from a Syracuse perspective and you would agree. Most of the fans are delusional and think the team is better than what the "experts" say every year. They fail to do research on the rest of the NCAA and are very closeminded toward the rest of the country. Boeheim is god to many of them and can't do any wrong. If anything, Boeheim should have been called into question for many of his decisions last year. Granted, the team was injury riddled but many of the moves he made were "What the hell did he just do?". The game has passed him by, refute it if you want but there's a reason that this team didn't make the NCAA two years in a row. He is finally starting to realize that you have to leave New York to be recognized at the end of the year and is attempting to revamp his piss poor 2-3 from last year.

Another thing I hate is when people say Rautins and Devo are coming back. Are you $$$$%%$ kidding me? Rautins is a one dimensional player. Other than a jumpshot he offers nothing. He is slow and weak. Devendorf is a hell of a player but this season is going to be more of an experiment than anything. He has been rehabbing pretty hard but many questions still remain as to whether his ACL will hold up and has he fully recovered. He looked very slow during the preseason but we'll really see what the season will be like come Sunday when he'll have to play 25+ minutes a game. Donte' Greene leaving was a blessing in disguise. He was the antithesis of a team player. He hated the 2-3, he couldn't play D to save his life and his shot selection was
indifferent.gif
. Scoop Jardine had nothing but bad things to say about Greene when he was at Dyckman this past summer.

It doesn't help the team this year that they literally imploded at the end of the year. Their mental awareness is going to be deservedly called out. Had they won three or four of those games that they lost there's no question as to whether or not they would have been in tournament last year. No excuses can be made this season if they fail to reach the NCAAs this season, they somewhat improved their schedule and the Big East as a whole has gotten better. This team has too much experience not to want to right the wrongs of the last two years. All I know is that if this team doesn't make it again, sports radio in Syracuse will begin to call for Boeheim's head there (you and I both know what the radio is like there especially when they didn't make it 2 years ago).


QFT.

People are blinded by their love for him. They don't realize how stubborn he is at times. He doesn't want to admit that losing Donte' was GOOD. Hesaid you would be crazy to think that was a good thing.
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The dumb mistakes happen so much. We played ourselves out of the tournament last year by giving Pitt the game.
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It'll be interesting to see how people react if we don't do #+*# with this team.....
 
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[h2]10 Games to Watch[/h2]
1. USC vs. Memphis, San Juan, Puerto Rico, Nov. 21, Puerto Rico Tip-off Classic: This is a possible second-round matchup in this event,assuming USC beats Seton Hall and Memphis takes care of Chattanooga. It could be one of the best nonconference games of the season. It will also pit two of thetop freshmen in the game in USC's DeMar DeRozan and Memphis' Tyreke Evans.
2. UCLA vs. Duke, Madison Square Garden, Nov. 21, Coaches vs. Cancer (ESPN2, 7 ET): This is also a wait-and-see, title-game matchup as boththe Bruins and Blue Devils have to get through their weak pods to New York and then beat either Southern Illinois/UMass for Duke and Michigan/Northeastern forUCLA. If all that happens, two of the most storied programs in the country would meet in MSG.

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A.J. Abrams and Texas will have a busy nonconference slate, with games against Michigan State and UCLA.
3. Old Spice Classic semifinals and finals, Orlando, Nov. 28 and Nov. 30: A lineup consisting of Michigan State, Gonzaga, Georgetown,Tennessee, Oklahoma State, Maryland, Siena and Wichita State (the only team in this field that won't get a sniff of the postseason) should provide big-timegames on the nights of the semifinals and finals. At least four of these teams could meet in late March.
4. North Carolina vs. Michigan State, Detroit, Ford Field, Dec. 3, ACC/Big Ten Challenge (ESPN, 9:15 ET): The Tar Heels could be coming offplaying Notre Dame or Texas in the Maui Invitational final after a game at home against UNC-Asheville the previous Saturday. The Spartans will be waiting forthis matchup and this could end up being one of the few losses for UNC this season.

5. UCLA at Texas, Dec. 4, Pac-10/Big 12 Challenge (ESPN2, 9 ET): The Longhorns have plenty of tests in their nonconference schedule. Thesetwo teams could easily meet in April.

6. USC at Oklahoma, Dec. 4, Pac-10/Big 12 Challenge (ESPN2, 7 ET): The two leagues made the right call this season in simply returning lastseason's games. These are the top two teams in their respective leagues, and it's shaping up to be quite a night for each conference.

7. Marquette vs. Tennessee, Nashville, Dec. 16, SEC/Big East Challenge (ESPN, 9:30 ET): The Golden Eagles are a sleeper team to compete fora top four-finish in the Big East. Tennessee is the favorite in the SEC. There are star players all around in this game.

8. Davidson vs. Purdue, Indianapolis, Dec. 20, Wooden Tradition: Two of the game's best talents -- Davidson's Stephen Curry and Purdue's Robbie Hummel -- will be on display. This will be a true test for the Wildcats to see if theyare a contender or pretender nationally early in the season.

9. Michigan State vs. Texas, Houston, Dec. 20: Yet another top-10 matchup for both squads as they prepare for their respective conferenceseasons.

10. Gonzaga vs. Connecticut, Seattle, Dec. 20: The Huskies lost to the Bulldogs a year ago in Boston and now the neutral-court series goesWest. Both are top-10 and Final Four legit.
[h2]10 Hidden Gems[/h2]
1. Jeff Teague, So., Wake Forest: Teague has serious hops. He canget to the rack to finish with authority. He's a deft ballhandler and he will be one of the main reasons -- along with a heralded freshman class -- theDemon Deacons make the NCAA tournament.
2. DeQuan Jones, Fr., Miami: The Hurricanes are raving about theimpact Jones will have for them this season. While Jones comes in with a name, it still doesn't resonate nationally. It should soon, as he teams up withJack McClinton to form a productive tandem.

3. Joe Mazzulla, Jr., West Virginia: Mazzulla had a breakout gameagainst Duke in the second round of the NCAA tournament last season. Bob Huggins will count on him more often this season and Mazzulla should deliver to keepthe Mountaineers relevant.

4. Deonta Vaughn, Jr., Cincinnati: Vaughn gets pub within the BigEast, but I challenge plenty of folks to name him nationally. Vaughn was a big-time scorer last season for the Bearcats, keeping them in the NCAA conversationfor a while. If they make the tournament this season, he'll be the reason.

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5. Trevon Hughes, Jr., Wisconsin: Hughes, who was second onthe team in scoring last season, is ready to assume a leadership position for UW after the departure of Michael Flowers. The Badgers have had tremendoussuccess with veteran perimeter players under Bo Ryan, and Hughes is next in line.
6. Damion James, Jr., Texas: James is ready for a breakout seasonand should become the next stud to wear Longhorn gear. James has All-American potential with his ability to score from all over the court.

7. Quincy Pondexter, Jr., Washington: The Huskies could be asleeper team in the Pac-10, and if they are it will be because Pondexter has a monster season. The Huskies will be led by Jon Brockman, but he needs a versatile player on the wing to complement him and Pondexter hasthe ability to deliver.

8. Taylor Rochestie, Sr., Washington State: Rochestie was theheart of the Cougars on many an occasion last season. While Kyle Weaver, Derrick Low and Robbie Cowgill got much of the attention, Rochestie delivered in manyways that weren't reflected in the box score. He has the chance to produce significant numbers.

9. Jarvis Varnado, Jr., Mississippi State: The Bulldogs alwaysseem to hang around for a potential NCAA berth. If that occurs again this season, Varnado will be the reason. He's a shot-blocker who is developing hisoffensive game to be a productive player at both ends.

10. Chris Warren, So., Ole Miss: The Rebels had one of thesurprise freshmen a year ago in Warren, and he's now expected to be a go-to player for a possible postseason team. He could end up being the top pointguard in the SEC by season's end.
[h2]10 Turnaround Teams[/h2]
(Teams poised to go from losing season -- to postseason) 1. LSU (13-18, 6-10 SEC): Why? New coach Trent Johnson has a healthyTasmin Mitchell, veteran shot-blocker Chris Johnson, a scoring guard in Marcus Thornton and a versatile defender in Garrett Temple. If the point guard play is decent, the Tigers will win the SEC West.
2. Washington (16-17, 7-11 Pac-10): Why? Jon Brockman may be the Pac-10 player of the year if he's healthy, the Huskies seem to behungrier and more focused, and the timing is right in a rebuilding Pac-10 for Washington to rise up to the top half.

3. Cincinnati (13-19, 8-10 Big East): Why? Mick Cronin had the Bearcats in the conversation for an NCAA berth last season and that waswithout Texas transfer Mike Williams. Williams is healthy after an Achilles injuryand Deonta Vaughn is back to provide the scoring punch. This team is tough and will be a difficult out.

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4. Providence (15-16, 6-12 Big East): Why? The Friars are healthy with point guard Sharaud Curry leading them after missing most of last season. The scorers are in place to fitinto Keno Davis' 3-point, uptempo style. The only problem getting to the NCAAs with this group is the league they're in -- the Big East.
5. Georgia Tech (15-17, 7-9 ACC): Why? As you can see, the Yellow Jackets were close to being a .500 or better team in the ACC last season.The difference was the Yellow Jackets needed a point guard. They got one in freshman ImanShumpert. If he's as good as advertised, the Yellow Jackets can make the NCAAs.

6. NC State (15-16, 4-12 ACC): Why? Well, it's still hard to figure out the Wolfpack's collapse a year ago. If the chemistry isbetter, and Brandon Costner, Ben McCauley and a healthy Farnold Degand (at the point) return to the way they played two seasons ago, the Wolfpackwill make a run at the NCAAs.

7. Boston College (14-17, 4-12 ACC): Why? Tyrese Rice is stillone of the most proficient scorers in the country and now he has help in freshman ReggieJackson and Vermont transfer Joe Trapani. Putting Josh Southern on the court more is an upgrade from the departed John Oates. BC was close in anumber of games last season but couldn't finish off opponents. The Eagles should this season.

8. Missouri (16-16, 6-10 Big 12): Why? The Tigers had a slew of off-court issues last season and still were highly competitive. If thingsare calm, and Mike Anderson can truly play the way he wants with Leo Lyons, DeMarre Carroll and a slew of newcomers, the Tigers can be an NIT team at the very least.

9. Illinois (16-19, 5-13 Big Ten): Why? This is a tough one, but the Illini should be a postseason team. Kentucky transfer Alex Legion should help immediately, but the onus is on returnees Trent Meacham and Chester Frazier to improve their production. The NIT is realistic for this crew.

10. Auburn (14-16, 4-12 SEC): Why? Jeff Lebo's teams have been nailed with injuries and suspensions. Four starters are back, led byKorvotney Barber. If there is any fairness here for Lebo, this squad should be ableto finish ahead of Arkansas and challenge the two Mississippi schools for spots behind LSU and Alabama in the SEC West.

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1. Jeff Teague, So., Wake Forest: Teague has serious hops. He can get to the rack to finish with authority. He's a deft ballhandler and he will be one of the main reasons -- along with a heralded freshman class -- the Demon Deacons make the NCAA tournament.
Jeff Teague is the goods.
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Him and %$%+% are a sick, sick, backcourt...

And I can easily see Manny keeping UM in a game w/ UCLA. But the Bruins will ultimately prevail...
 
Originally Posted by SCuse7

Originally Posted by Lazy B

Originally Posted by SCuse7

I see the same Syracuse questions every time.

"Why aren't we getting any props. We have Rautin and Devo back...."
I'm going to tell you this from a Syracuse perspective and you would agree. Most of the fans are delusional and think the team is better than what the "experts" say every year. They fail to do research on the rest of the NCAA and are very closeminded toward the rest of the country. Boeheim is god to many of them and can't do any wrong. If anything, Boeheim should have been called into question for many of his decisions last year. Granted, the team was injury riddled but many of the moves he made were "What the hell did he just do?". The game has passed him by, refute it if you want but there's a reason that this team didn't make the NCAA two years in a row. He is finally starting to realize that you have to leave New York to be recognized at the end of the year and is attempting to revamp his piss poor 2-3 from last year.

Another thing I hate is when people say Rautins and Devo are coming back. Are you $$$$%%$ kidding me? Rautins is a one dimensional player. Other than a jumpshot he offers nothing. He is slow and weak. Devendorf is a hell of a player but this season is going to be more of an experiment than anything. He has been rehabbing pretty hard but many questions still remain as to whether his ACL will hold up and has he fully recovered. He looked very slow during the preseason but we'll really see what the season will be like come Sunday when he'll have to play 25+ minutes a game. Donte' Greene leaving was a blessing in disguise. He was the antithesis of a team player. He hated the 2-3, he couldn't play D to save his life and his shot selection was
indifferent.gif
. Scoop Jardine had nothing but bad things to say about Greene when he was at Dyckman this past summer.

It doesn't help the team this year that they literally imploded at the end of the year. Their mental awareness is going to be deservedly called out. Had they won three or four of those games that they lost there's no question as to whether or not they would have been in tournament last year. No excuses can be made this season if they fail to reach the NCAAs this season, they somewhat improved their schedule and the Big East as a whole has gotten better. This team has too much experience not to want to right the wrongs of the last two years. All I know is that if this team doesn't make it again, sports radio in Syracuse will begin to call for Boeheim's head there (you and I both know what the radio is like there especially when they didn't make it 2 years ago).


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People are blinded by their love for him. They don't realize how stubborn he is at times. He doesn't want to admit that losing Donte' was GOOD. He said you would be crazy to think that was a good thing.
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The dumb mistakes happen so much. We played ourselves out of the tournament last year by giving Pitt the game.
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It'll be interesting to see how people react if we don't do #+*# with this team.....
+#** is going to hit the fan if this team doesn't do anything. I believe that Daryl Gross will be fired if they don't turn it around.He's distanced himself from the football mess he created but people are going to be
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