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Anyone think Mayo's grand marketing scheme has failed so far?

Nobody really is talking about him, he's kinda forgotten out there on a decent team, that's never on ESPN.
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

Anyone think Mayo's grand marketing scheme has failed so far?

Nobody really is talking about him, he's kinda forgotten out there on a decent team, that's never on ESPN.
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Should've came east... ain't nobody watching USC games on the east coast when they're aired on FSN at 11 oclock at night... He's a moronfor going out there, 95 percent of LA doesn't give a damn about college basketball right now, there's already an east coast bias with ESPN because theyhave no pac-10 package... I mean, what did he really thinnk was going to happen out there? If he had gone to ANY big east, acc, big 10, or SEC school he'dbe 10 times as large right now...
 
Yeah..his draft stock wouldn't have been effected if he went to Montana.. but as far as the attention he wanted..East Coast woulda been better

Bill Walker has a ESPN chat at 3:30..that could be comedy
 
he'll still be a lottery pick. i don't think playing in a better market would make that much of a difference to be honest. it might've bumped him afew spots, but that's it IMO. if they manage to get into the tourney, he'll have his chance to shine on the big stage anyways...
 
[h1]Harangody emerging as Big East's best big man[/h1]
By Adam Rittenberg
ESPN.com
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Updated: February 27, 2008

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Time after time, Luke Harangody stomped toward the benchpress, shoving logic and reason out of his path as he positioned himself below the bar.

With every attempt, the howls in Notre Dame's weight room grew louder. Fighting Irish players huddled around Harangody, playfully prodding theirteammate, whose bullishness was wildly entertaining, never mind borderline insane.

Strength and conditioning coach Tony Rolinski, in an effort to simulate the NBA combine, was recording each player's bench-press repetitions at 185pounds. Harangody aimed to beat his mark from the previous week, but on his first stab, he finished with the same total.

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Mike Brey had to convince Luke Harangody that the forward was good enough for the Big East. Harangody is now averaging 22.4 points and 11.9 rebounds in league games only.

"He was so mad about it, he went through the rest of the workout and then would go back and try it again and again after he was dead tired,"Rolinski recalled of the scene last summer. "We'd keep egging him on, being like, 'Luke, you're not going to beat it. Let's just wait'til next time.'

"We were in hysterics."

Months later, Harangody admits the display was "just stupid."

"It wasn't logical that I was going to do better," he said, "but I just wanted to try."

Before the season, the notion that Harangody would become the Big East's most dominant big man truly defied logic. He had turned in an efficientfreshman year, averaging 11.2 points and 6.2 rebounds in only 20.6 minutes per game, but nothing suggested a supersized jump in production.

Besides, look at the guy. Listed at 6-foot-8 and 251 pounds, Harangody seems more suited for the offensive line than the front line. Those interstate-wideshoulders and that Porterhouse-thick neck could help Notre Dame's woeful rushing attack, but in a sport in which length and agility mean everything,Harangody appears out of place.

This season, however, there's no doubt about where he belongs.

Through Monday's games, Harangody is leading the Big East in scoring (20.2 points per game) and ranks second in rebounds (10.5), and he has propelledNo. 17 Notre Dame to a 21-5 mark. He leads the Big East in double-doubles (16) -- recording six straight before a Feb. 17 win at Rutgers -- and has scored indouble figures in 24 consecutive games.

Harangody's deceptive athleticism and brute strength have triggered the upsurge, but anyone in the weight room last summer knows the real reason behindit.

"He's wired, man," Irish coach Mike Brey said. "There's a body language of confidence, and he backs it up. It's a perfect stormof athletic ability, unbelievable hands, timing, technique, feel for the game -- and then psyche."
The last trait took the longest time to mold.

Notre Dame's recruitment of Harangody consisted of "convincing him he was good enough" to play in the Big East, Brey said. The beefy powerforward remained skeptical even after he arrived on campus in the summer of 2006.

Harangody struggled during nightly open gym sessions, getting "absolutely destroyed" by teammate Rob Kurz in two-on-two games. On the way back to the dorms, Harangody usually called hisfather, Dave.

"I will never see the court, I will always be a bench player," Dave Harangody remembers his son saying.

"I seriously doubted myself," Luke said.

The doubts dissipated soon after the season started. Harangody scored in double figures in his first five games.

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[h3]He's wired, man. There's a body language of confidence, and he backs it up. It's a perfect storm of athletic ability, unbelievable hands, timing, technique, feel for the game -- and then psyche.
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--Mike Brey on Luke Harangody

After Harangody tallied 17 points and 10 rebounds against Butler in Notre Dame's second game, Brey considered adding the freshman to the startinglineup. But when the coach broached the possibility, Harangody recoiled. So Brey waited until Big East play.

"I never forget the day I said, 'White jerseys are the starters. Luke H., turn it white,'" Brey said. "Colin Falls looked at me,like, 'Where you been, Coach? That should have been like two weeks ago.'"

Harangody started the final 16 games, earning Big East All-Rookie honors. Once unsure that he belonged in the lineup, Harangody now bounds off the benchwhen he's introduced as a starter at the Joyce Center. ("He gets our whole building confident," Brey said.)

He has also shouldered a greater leadership role this year. After Notre Dame lost to Georgetown on Jan. 19, Harangody saw several freshmen giggling in thelocker room and lit into them.

"Psyche-wise, I've made the comparison to [Christian] Laettner, but he plays harder than Laettner," said Brey, an assistant coach at Duke whenLaettner played. "[He's] really kind of a throwback guy. He only knows one way to go at it.

"His will is amazingly strong, and he's got his teammates confident because of his will. He's grabbed them and dragged them with him."
When Rolinski wants to rile up Harangody, which isn't hard to do, he points out the sophomore's one weakness.

"He's not the toughest guy in his house," Rolinski said. "His brother Ty will kick his +%#."

Separated by just 20 months and one grade level, Luke and his older brother Ty took sibling rivalry to new extremes while growing up in Schererville,Ind.

[h4]East's Beast[/h4]
Luke Harangody would be just the second Big East player in the last decade to average 22 ppg and 11 rpg in conference play for a season. (Georgetown's Mike Sweetney did it in '02-03.) Only five players have averaged 22 and 11 in league play for a BCS conference in the last decade.
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[tr][td]Year[/td] [td]Player[/td] [td]PPG[/td] [td]RPG[/td] [/tr][tr][td]'07-08[/td] [td]Luke Harangody (Notre Dame)[/td] [td]22.4[/td] [td]11.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]'07-'08[/td] [td]Michael Beasley (K-State)[/td] [td]28.3[/td] [td]11.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]'07-'08[/td] [td]Tyler Hansbrough (UNC)[/td] [td]24.5[/td] [td]11.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]'06-'07[/td] [td]Kevin Durant (Texas)[/td] [td]28.9[/td] [td]12.5[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]'02-'03[/td] [td]Mike Sweetney (G'town)[/td] [td]25.1[/td] [td]11.4[/td] [/tr][/table]
Their contests began in Luke's bedroom, with a mini-hoop hanging from the door, until they were kicked out for shaking the light fixtures. They moved tothe basement, where their father had painted a basketball court, but they soon grew too big to play there. The next stop was the backyard, but that endedbadly, too.
"Games would just end in fistfights all the time," Ty said. "We were actually banned from playing in the backyard one-on-one, so we wouldsneak out to the park and play each other. And it wasn't just basketball, it was football, it was Wiffle Ball in the front driveway."

Bigger and stronger, Ty won most of the battles, but Luke never gave up.

"It was such a big deal if I beat him in anything," Luke said. "I would feel like I won the national championship."

The brothers' athletic paths forked in high school, as Ty followed Dave's lead into football and earned a scholarship to Indiana as a tight end (hiscareer was ended by a torn ACL early in his sophomore season). Luke grew 3 inches as a high school freshman and entrenched himself in basketball.

But the rivalry rarely let up.

"I still look back on that as where most of my competitive nature comes from," Luke said. "To beat him, I'd go all out, all thetime."
Harangody gets the question all the time, especially after Notre Dame's flagship sports program dipped to historic lows last fall.

"People are always saying, 'Has Charlie Weis ever talked to you about playing football?'" Harangody said, shaking his head."They're always surprised that he hasn't come out and asked me to play."

The inquiries, albeit annoying, are understandable for an athlete who, as Rolinski puts it, "looks like a big tight end or a smaller O-lineman."Despite his frame, Harangody never gravitated toward the gridiron.

Weis can be spotted at Irish basketball games, but the coach has made no push for Harangody.

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Luke Harangody struggled the first time he met the big beasts Roy Hibbert and Hasheem Thabeet. But he got his revenge the second time around.

"I will never return that call if he calls," Brey said, smiling. "I'll help him with any plays that he wants, but he can't haveHarangody."

Harangody has always considered his size an advantage, but it brings unique challenges. While most college players lose weight during the season, Harangodypacked on the freshman 15 last winter.

It caught up with him in the NCAA Tournament. He finished with four points and one rebound, tying a season low, and played just 17 minutes in NotreDame's first-round loss to Winthrop.

"It was hard to get up and down the court," Harangody said. "I hit that wall and there was nothing I could do to get out of it. I neverwanted to feel like that again."

After the game, Harangody met with his parents at a restaurant near the team hotel in Spokane, Wash.

"On the spot, he says, 'I've got to do something,'" Dave Harangody recalled. "He rededicated himself from the minute they lostthat game."

Harangody worked with the trainer to change his diet, eating smaller portions and limiting fried foods and carbs. They also increased his regimen ofcardiovascular exercise.

The big man still eats pizza and allows himself the occasional indulgence -- after a recent interview in Notre Dame's sports information office, heswiped a Jolly Rancher on his way out -- but he has become much more disciplined.

His body fat has dropped to 8 percent, down from 14 percent at the end of last season. The result is greater durability: Harangody averages 28.8 minutes andhas played more than 30 minutes in 13 games after doing so just once last season.

"He just keeps coming," Brey said. "In a lot of ways, the only way you can stop him is foul him."

Harangody's improved stamina and underrated athleticism has paid off in the post, but early in league play he struggled against so-called"true" big men. He shot a season-worst 5-for-23 from the field against Connecticut's 7-foot-3 Hasheem Thabeet and went 3-for-13 against Georgetown's 7-foot-2 Roy Hibbert.

He redeemed himself in the Feb. 13 rematch with Thabeet, scoring a career-high 32 points and matching his best with 16 rebounds.

Not bad for a guy who didn't think he'd ever get off the bench at Notre Dame. Harangody is now among the frontrunners for Big East Player of theYear.

"The media have been hyping up that the only thing I can't do is play against a tall guy," Harangody said. "That kind of hurt mepersonally. After that game … I kind of proved everybody wrong."



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I'd stop being a fan if he ever touched foot on the football field.


 
Originally Posted by allen3xis


Bill Walker has a ESPN chat at 3:30..that could be comedy
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i just hope he goes to the bathroom beforehand... don't wanthim to have to use a towel while he's getting his chat on.
 
Here's the answer to your question last night Craftsy..

• Houston's Rob McKiver scored 52 points in the Cougars' 95-67 home win over Southern Miss on Wednesday night. That's the most points scored by aDivision I player this season -- and the first 50-point game since Brion Rush of Grambling State scored 53 on Feb. 4, 2006. The total is a single-game recordin Conference USA history.

• There were 52 teams in action on Wednesday night and two of them scored less than McKiver's 52 points. Bucknell lost 50-39 at Lehigh, and Oklahoma lost63-45 at Nebraska.

• Florida Atlantic went to Troy and beat the Trojans 99-93, despite 42 points from Troy senior O'Darien Bassett. It was a career high for Bassett -- andbefore taking McKiver's night into account, Bassett's 42-point game would have been three points shy of the previous Division I season-high byNiagara's Charron Fisher, who scored 45 points a week ago.

• McKiver and Bassett were not alone in their 40-plus efforts. UAB senior Robert Vaden scored 41 points in the Blazers' 88-81 win at UTEP. There have nowbeen 21 40-point games by Division I players this season. This is the first day with three 40-point scorers since Jan. 8, 2001.
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

Here's the answer to your question last night Craftsy..

• Houston's Rob McKiver scored 52 points in the Cougars' 95-67 home win over Southern Miss on Wednesday night. That's the most points scored by a Division I player this season -- and the first 50-point game since Brion Rush of Grambling State scored 53 on Feb. 4, 2006. The total is a single-game record in Conference USA history.

• There were 52 teams in action on Wednesday night and two of them scored less than McKiver's 52 points. Bucknell lost 50-39 at Lehigh, and Oklahoma lost 63-45 at Nebraska.

• Florida Atlantic went to Troy and beat the Trojans 99-93, despite 42 points from Troy senior O'Darien Bassett. It was a career high for Bassett -- and before taking McKiver's night into account, Bassett's 42-point game would have been three points shy of the previous Division I season-high by Niagara's Charron Fisher, who scored 45 points a week ago.

• McKiver and Bassett were not alone in their 40-plus efforts. UAB senior Robert Vaden scored 41 points in the Blazers' 88-81 win at UTEP. There have now been 21 40-point games by Division I players this season. This is the first day with three 40-point scorers since Jan. 8, 2001.
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Vaden, the former IU player who left with Mike Davis to goto UAB right? Good for him.. thanks for this info, impressive to see so many high scorers,didn't realize it was so common to go over 40 points this year.
 
Thought we could take a look at the top offensive rated players in the country right now... this is the formula made famous by the NBA, but it's stillpretty applicable here.

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At least 28% of possessions used
1 Ryan Anderson, California 122.7 (28.6) 6-10 235 So
2 Courtney Lee, Western Kentucky 122.1 (30.9) 6-5 200 Sr
3 Michael Beasley, Kansas St. 120.4 (33.0) 6-9 235 Fr
4 Reggie Williams, Virginia Military Inst 119.2 (30.1) 6-6 195 Sr
5 Kyle Landry, Northern Arizona 118.9 (30.1) 6-9 205 Sr
6 Stephen Curry, Davidson 118.9 (31.
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6-0 180 So
7 Arizona Reid, High Point 117.8 (30.
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6-5 205 Sr
8 Bo McCalebb, New Orleans 117.8 (32.4) 6-0 180 Sr
9 Lester Hudson, Tennessee Martin 116.1 (32.5) 6-3 190 Jr
10 Eric Gordon, Indiana 115.7 (29.1) 6-4 215 Fr

11 James Harden, Arizona St. 115.6 (28.6) 6-5 210 Fr
12 Jerryd Bayless, Arizona 115.5 (29.6) 6-3 193 Fr
13 A.J. Ogilvy, Vanderbilt 115.3 (28.2) 6-10 250 Fr
14 Matt Kingsley, Stephen F. Austin 115.2 (28.5) 6-9 225 Jr
15 Marcelus Kemp, Nevada 114.0 (29.7) 6-5 210 Sr
16 Aleks Maric, Nebraska 113.8 (30.0) 6-11 270 Sr
17 Brett Winkelman, North Dakota St. 112.9 (28.6) 6-6 208 Jr
18 Jermaine Taylor, Central Florida 112.9 (28.
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6-4 190 Jr
19 Eric Maynor, Virginia Commonwealth 112.7 (28.5) 6-2 165 Jr
20 Adrian Banks, Arkansas St. 112.5 (28.2) 6-3 190 Sr

21 Stefon Jackson, Texas El Paso 112.0 (31.4) 6-5 180 Jr
22 Carlos Taylor, Montana St. 111.8 (29.3) 6-1 185 Sr
23 Mike Green, Butler 111.4 (28.4) 6-1 175 Sr
24 John Bryant, Santa Clara 111.3 (32.7) 6-10 305 Jr
25 Luke Harangody, Notre Dame 111.3 (32.4) 6-8 250 So
26 Marqus Blakely, Vermont 111.1 (29.2) 6-5 210 So
27 Will Daniels, Rhode Island 111.0 (29.2) 6-8 225 Sr
28 Collin Dennis, North Texas 110.2 (28.4) 6-2 185 Jr
29 Brook Lopez, Stanford 110.1 (32.7) 7-0 240 So
30 Blake Griffin, Oklahoma 110.0 (28.9) 6-10 239 Fr
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shoots 39% and takes 22 shots a game...he makes sure he gets his
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Believe it or not - he only ranks second in terms of taking the most shots for his team --

National Leaders for Percentage of Possessions Used
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Note: Minimum 40% minutes played to qualify.  1 DeMario Anderson, Quinnipiac                  35.5   6-4 205 Sr  2 Charron Fisher, Niagara                       34.6   6-4 230 Sr  3 James Florence, Mercer                        33.4   6-1 180 So  4 Michael Beasley, Kansas St.                   33.0   6-9 235 Fr  5 John Bryant, Santa Clara                      32.7  6-10 305 Jr  6 Brook Lopez, Stanford                         32.7   7-0 240 So  7 Glenn Andrews, Tulsa                          32.5   6-3 185 Fr  8 Lester Hudson, Tennessee Martin               32.5   6-3 190 Jr  9 Luke Harangody, Notre Dame                    32.4   6-8 250 So
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 10 Bo McCalebb, New Orleans                      32.4   6-0 180 Sr
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Actually - Your boy Charron is the guy taking the most shots for his team... but he's only second in terms of possession "used" - i'm notentirely sure the difference, but i'm guessing it means the other guy turns the ball over slightly more.
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either way, they some chuckers.
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

Anyone think Mayo's grand marketing scheme has failed so far?

Nobody really is talking about him, he's kinda forgotten out there on a decent team, that's never on ESPN.
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he just really wanted to get out of the east and start fresh. and with the way some of the top FR are playing this year alot of good FR have not beentalked about
 
shoots 39% and takes 22 shots a game...he makes sure he gets his
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give fisher his props. so what if he pulls it a lot, you can't deny that he is massacring the maac. he's easily gonna win maac player ofthe yr.

you ready for tomorrow nights match-up? niagara @ siena. i'll be watching it on local tv. battle for maac supremacy on the line. should be exciting. fishervs ubiles.
niagara ftw
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Originally Posted by SCuse7

Originally Posted by dfresh244

USC @ Arizona on ESPN tonight.
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Finally a good Pac-10 game.
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co-sign, i'll be watching.

us east coasters get screwed when it comes to west coast games.
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allwe ever get is wcc games at 12 am on monday nights
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Originally Posted by J RAIN 23

Originally Posted by SCuse7

Originally Posted by dfresh244

USC @ Arizona on ESPN tonight.
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Finally a good Pac-10 game.
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co-sign, i'll be watching.

us east coasters get screwed when it comes to west coast games.
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all we ever get is wcc games at 12 am on monday nights
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I know only so much of *%%!*+% ST.Marys, and Gonzaga you can watch.
 
Mentioned this before, but..

How exactly is Derick Caracter planning on playing in the NBA next year?
 
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