****The Everything LaVar Ball Thread****

[derryj3]

Dude is comedy. Idk how u can watch that and not think he is an entertainer. Idk maybe its a black thing cuz we all got family members just like that

 

[rolaholic]

TNT roasted dude last night . They googled Barkley stats and highlights then did the same for Lavar and nothing came up

Charles was also asked about dude before and gave his 2 cents...

 

[calibeebee]

Ball was not Pac-12 player of the year.....

 

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 How One Family Is Beating the NCAA at Its Own Game
 

As the NCAA basketball tournament kicks off this week, LaVar Ball, the outspoken father of UCLA freshman star Lonzo Ball, is primed to take his place alongside Richard Williams and Earl Woods in the pantheon of overzealous sports dads. Ball has already taken shots at Charles Barkley and said his 19-year-old son is a better player than reigning NBA MVP Stephen Curry––and doubled-down on the claim in a telephone interview with TIME.

"To me Zo is the best player in the world," LaVar says. Yes, even better than all-stars LeBron James and Russell Westbrook. "I don't know if he can beat them one on one," Ball says, conceding the NBA stars are stronger than his son, the Pac-12 player of the year and an expected top pick in the upcoming NBA draft. "But I know he can beat them 5 on 5."
Why pay any mind to this carnival barking? Because in the process of calling attention to himself and his family, Ball is doing something far more consequential: exposing the hypocrisy of big-time college athletics.

The roots of Ball's stealth war on the the NCAA's outdated amateurism rules date to last spring, when he launched Big Baller Brand, a website that sells not-inexpensive apparel with a "BBB" logo. The brand is built to capitalize on the basketball prowess of Ball's kids: Lonzo and his younger brothers LiAngelo, 18, and LaMelo, 15, both high school stars who have also committed to play for UCLA. "It's the brand I created for my boys," LaVar told TIME. "Each one of the Bs represents my boys ... Lonzo's going to be the first one drafted with his own brand."


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On March 7, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office registered the Big Baller Brand trademark for athletic apparel. Until just a few weeks ago, LaVar says a picture of all three Ball brothers was featured on the brand's website, along with videos of their on-court exploits. And its Twitter page refers to the operation as the "official Brand of the Ball Family."
What's wrong with that? Well, NCAA bylaws state that "after becoming a student-athlete, an individual shall not be eligible for participation in intercollegiate athletics if the individual ... permits the use of his or her name or picture to advertise, recommend or promote directly the sale or use of a commercial product or service of any kind."
In other words, as long as Lonzo plays for UCLA, he forfeits the chance to profit from his success. But what if a shrewd family member devised a way to skirt those outmoded rules?

LaVar acknowledges that's exactly what he's up to: "It's a way around it what we're doing," he says.
Legal experts consulted by TIME believe that Big Baller Brand likely runs afoul of NCAA rules. "The use of photographs of Lonzo and footage of his on-court exploits on a website selling branded apparel looks like a pretty clear-cut violation of NCAA rules," says Alexandra Roberts, a law professor and intellectual property specialist at the University of New Hampshire. "It's a use that Lonzo apparently permitted, and that promotes the sale of commercial goods."
The Big Baller Brand site also sells a hat in UCLA's blue and gold colors. " It looks like the type of use for which UCLA would require a license agreement," says Roberts. Ball says he hasn't paid any royalties to UCLA––which Roberts says could be problematic. "Refraining from complaining or charging a licensing fee, i.e. allowing the Balls to use UCLA trademarks when the university doesn't permit others to do so could be an improper benefit to Ball’s family in contravention of NCAA rules," Roberts says.
UCLA and the NCAA have received complaints about Ball's venture.

After rival school USC raised questions about the brand's site, according to LaVar, UCLA asked LaVar to remove Lonzo's picture and videos that feature him. (A USC spokesman says UCLA told them it was aware of the site, and was working to resolve any issues). He did so, but says he drew the line at UCLA's request to take Lonzo's name off the About Us section. "Violation or not," LaVar says, "if it's really that serious, take my boy, I'll come get him right now. See if you can win the NCAA championship on your own."
Yet the NCAA, which has suspended players for accepting $150 worth of groceries, hasn't disciplined UCLA's young star. In a joint statement in response to inquiries about Big Baller Brand, the NCAA and UCLA said: " Like many schools, UCLA has frequently worked with the NCAA to determine what is and is not allowed within the member-adopted rules. While neither the NCAA nor UCLA will address details of a specific student-athlete's situation, both are comfortable the appropriate measures have been taken to review the potential issues under NCAA rules and processes regarding Lonzo Ball. As is standard practice, both will continue to work together to monitor this matter."

And this is where LaVar deserves a tip of the cap. I've long made the case that top college athletes should have the right to compensation. For years, the NCAA has argued if college athletes act as professionals, fans will become turned off and tune out, imperiling the economics of the entire enterprise. But along comes Ball, a player who, in spirit at least, has his own apparel company. No enterprise could be more outright commercial, more professional, in nature. But despite all the personal branding, UCLA hoops is doing just fine (as is its coach Steve Alford, who makes $2.6 million per year): attendance is up and the team is once-again a national contender. Nor is the NCAA exactly struggling. Last April the organization signed an eight-year, $8.8 billion extension of a multimedia rights deal with CBS and Turner to show their flagship amateur basketball tournament.
With Big Baller Brand, Ball has found a shrewd way to do an end-run around the NCAA's sanctimony and position his family to make money in the process. Other college athletes may want to take notice. "People are talking about, oh, LaVar is exploiting his kid," says LaVar. "Wait a minute. How do you exploit something that's yours? Exploiting something is making money off of something that's not yours. Basically that's all UCLA is doing."

Forget Ball's braggadocio. His real contribution is poking one more hole in the flimsy case for amateurism, and giving athletes an opening to grab a fairer share.

 

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This really is an interesting situation though. It's not like a booster or another company. This is a side company. If Lonzo's is placed on the BoD of the company, dude should be gucci. No way the ncaa can't tell you that you cant market and profit off of yourself. Even more, if it's just his family company. There are still limits that the ncaa can have power against. It's one thing to accept money from an outside profiteer. It's another to accept it from your parents. If UCLA wants Lavar to remove Lonzo's pictures, it can only really be the ones of him in UCLA gear. Have dude throw on some regular hoop gear with no logo's, and they can't say anything. There are so many loop holes and ways around. They can really flourish out here.

 

[maldonado]

I rock with Lavar.

Good pops.

Brilliant strategy to have his sons enter the nba with their own brand on deck.

 

[airuphere23]

I could understand if his kids were like LeBron coming out of high school, a once in a generation type talent, but they're not. Lonzo will be the first of his sons to get tested in the NBA so if the pressure mounts and he can't hang with these grown men in the league, it's gonna put his entire family on blast looking like frauds.

His sons better be Jordan, Magic, and Bird a decade from now the way LaVar is talking..

 

[dman14]

lavar going to be getting a lot of air time if ucla makes a deep run
would not be surprised if he is in studio with chuck or does some kind of interview with turner sports

 

[rolaholic]

I could understand if his kids were like LeBron coming out of high school, a once in a generation type talent, but they're not. Lonzo will be the first of his sons to get tested in the NBA so if the pressure mounts and he can't hang with these grown men in the league, it's gonna put his entire family on blast looking like frauds.

His sons better be Jordan, Magic, and Bird a decade from now the way LaVar is talking..

Word if anyone should be popping off it should be Zion Williamson's pops

 

[Mark Antony]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

 

[freeze]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

you know why..

 

[Mark Antony]

Yup.

 

[derryj3]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

Truth.

 

[dathbgboy]

NCAA been eatin off kids for years. Coaches making millions but the kids can't get a few bucks to eat?

Best believe the NCAA guidelines will be rewritten to close whatever loophole Lavar is trying to finesse and claim that they're doing it to protect the student-athlete.

 

[maxelite]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

The argument about the NCAA has nothing to do with this man lol. It's a different topic.

 

[Mark Antony]

Huh?

 

[maxelite]

Here's the issue i personally have. And again, it doesnt matter, Lavar and his family have their own perogative so kudos to him for having 3 kids committed to UCLA.

As a parent, it rubs me the wrong way to see him marketing a brand that correlates to success of his kids. He has had this planned since the day he met his wife. Like he's been planning this out, have his kids be successful at sports, and then capitalize off of it.

Does the NCAA make money off kids who dont see a dime? Of course.

But we are talking about a parent trying to capitalize off his kids accomplishments. That just rubs me the wrong way. Whether they see that money or not is irrelevant.

 

[RustyShackleford]

LaVar has been the kids coach since they were babies and still trains them.

Even the AAU team the boys played own was started by LaVar.

And he is using the money to support those same kids.

I have no problem with what he is doing, the good ole boys at the NCAA just doesn't like someone that does not behave.

 

[shogun]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

Seems like people are just laughing at his brand and the prices. Unless people have posted other stuff that i've missed.

 

[Mark Antony]

Ya'll really don't see that big *** TIME article?

 

[freeze]

Here's the issue i personally have. And again, it doesnt matter, Lavar and his family have their own perogative so kudos to him for having 3 kids committed to UCLA.

As a parent, it rubs me the wrong way to see him marketing a brand that correlates to success of his kids. He has had this planned since the day he met his wife. Like he's been planning this out, have his kids be successful at sports, and then capitalize off of it.

Does the NCAA make money off kids who dont see a dime? Of course.

But we are talking about a parent trying to capitalize off his kids accomplishments. That just rubs me the wrong way. Whether they see that money or not is irrelevant.

but...he's using his kids succuess..to support his kids. Outside of him talking about beating jordan and whatever, in every article he's gassing and bigging up his kids. And he's telling the world it's their brand. He's building something that, while the foundation may be set in success on the court, is bigger than the court. If things go well for them, they have more than just hoops to support them. He'd be trying to capitalize if he was trying to get stuff for himself. Edorsement deals. Tv shows. book deals etc. But the sons all own it. They all benefit off the success of it.

 

[wballz]

Here's the issue i personally have. And again, it doesnt matter, Lavar and his family have their own perogative so kudos to him for having 3 kids committed to UCLA.

As a parent, it rubs me the wrong way to see him marketing a brand that correlates to success of his kids. He has had this planned since the day he met his wife. Like he's been planning this out, have his kids be successful at sports, and then capitalize off of it.

Does the NCAA make money off kids who dont see a dime? Of course.

But we are talking about a parent trying to capitalize off his kids accomplishments. That just rubs me the wrong way. Whether they see that money or not is irrelevant.

I have the opposing view. It's awesome that the Parents are utilizing whatever they can to benefit the family business. 

Success of the kids mean success for the family. Then again, that's the household I grew up in. I am lucky enough  to have wealthy parents which opened doors and connections and notoriety for me, which made me some $$ as well. 

 

[cashbanks]

Here's the issue i personally have. And again, it doesnt matter, Lavar and his family have their own perogative so kudos to him for having 3 kids committed to UCLA.

As a parent, it rubs me the wrong way to see him marketing a brand that correlates to success of his kids. He has had this planned since the day he met his wife. Like he's been planning this out, have his kids be successful at sports, and then capitalize off of it.

Does the NCAA make money off kids who dont see a dime? Of course.

But we are talking about a parent trying to capitalize off his kids accomplishments. That just rubs me the wrong way. Whether they see that money or not is irrelevant.

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[maxelite]

Clearly we all have different sensibilities when it comes to this


Listen, I hope Lonzo makes it big in the League and hopefully can decide what he wants to do with his earnings. Whether that goes back into BBB or whatever, hopefully its in his hands to decide it because he's the one that's earned it. If Lavar is just trying to get his kids a head start now and falls back once his kids are older, then hey ill just be proven wrong.

 

[P C H]

My man Lavar was asked about if his children tell him that he should stop

Lavar basically said "No they don't, they love it. And Why should they? I feed them clothe them, give them shelter...y'all just love them when the lights is on, when the lights is off and go away ima still be they daddy and provide for them"

Kind of told me all I needed to know

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Bruh the NCAA is making almost 9 billion over the next 8 years off these kids and they want to suspend one if they accept groceries? and people have a problem with a family brand?

Cuz you supposed to let the NCAA pimp you like the other "student athelets". How dare your family profit off of your work.