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Alot of hypotheticals in that statement champ.
The GOAT: "I would not have called Larry and Magic and say letâs play together"
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Alot of hypotheticals in that statement champ.
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Alot of hypotheticals in that statement champ.
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Cry me a river.. now I should respect LeBron? Let's not waste anymore time on his childhoodthat's not gonna get anywhere. Let's talk about "LeFraud", the man today. You use this word "respect" with LeBron. Where was the respect he showed hometown fans and a organizationwho would've taken a bullet for this kid when he decided to do a 1 hour special on ESPN?Where was the respect he showed one of the most respected coaches in college basketball, Izzo?Wouldn't even give this guy the time of day. But I need to respect LeBron cause he had a "hard"childhood? I know people personally that came from less and have become better people thenLeBron. I critique LeBron based on his own actions homie, so its not "hate". Its not like I havesome LeBron dart board at home and spend all night throwing at it. I don't even care that he wentto Miami but don't sell me that this kid is a positive "from nothing to something" story cause that's a joke.Then again he's only 25 and I'm sure he will grow up and realize how much of a d-bag he was being.But at this moment I'm commenting on what LeBron's actions recently mean to me. Butin these situations no one is right or wrong cause no one knows LeBron and its ALL opinion. Itsjust fun to debate it cause what he did has never been done in sports before.
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Cry me a river.. now I should respect LeBron? Let's not waste anymore time on his childhoodthat's not gonna get anywhere. Let's talk about "LeFraud", the man today. You use this word "respect" with LeBron. Where was the respect he showed hometown fans and a organizationwho would've taken a bullet for this kid when he decided to do a 1 hour special on ESPN?Where was the respect he showed one of the most respected coaches in college basketball, Izzo?Wouldn't even give this guy the time of day. But I need to respect LeBron cause he had a "hard"childhood? I know people personally that came from less and have become better people thenLeBron. I critique LeBron based on his own actions homie, so its not "hate". Its not like I havesome LeBron dart board at home and spend all night throwing at it. I don't even care that he wentto Miami but don't sell me that this kid is a positive "from nothing to something" story cause that's a joke.Then again he's only 25 and I'm sure he will grow up and realize how much of a d-bag he was being.But at this moment I'm commenting on what LeBron's actions recently mean to me. Butin these situations no one is right or wrong cause no one knows LeBron and its ALL opinion. Itsjust fun to debate it cause what he did has never been done in sports before.
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Grasping at straws. Taking a quote from magic when he was in COLLEGE and not yet an established player in the league and comparing that to lebrons situation??
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Grasping at straws. Taking a quote from magic when he was in COLLEGE and not yet an established player in the league and comparing that to lebrons situation??
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LeBron stood on the doorstep of greatness, knocked on the door, the door swung open. LeBron looked inside and seen what the path to greatness would require
And this is what he saw:
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LeBron stood on the doorstep of greatness, knocked on the door, the door swung open. LeBron looked inside and seen what the path to greatness would require
And this is what he saw:
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Funny how you claim my statement which is directly from a QUOTE out of the mouth of Magic Johnson is full of hypotheticals, when you co-sign EVERYTHING Magic had to say in the wake of LeBron signing w. the Heat.....champ.
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Funny how you claim my statement which is directly from a QUOTE out of the mouth of Magic Johnson is full of hypotheticals, when you co-sign EVERYTHING Magic had to say in the wake of LeBron signing w. the Heat.....champ.
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lol. That's pretty good. CP said it best though. I've read a couple of posts talking about LeBron not having any help. Well all the signings and trades that Cavs made, were done with LeBron's blessing. But whenever the Cavs went after a big player, they wouldn't sign, why? LeBron would not commit or even show that he might commit to the Cavs. All this LeBron played with bums and sorry players is nonsense. You don't win 60+ games playing with bums. But you do lose in the playoffs when the player knows if he keeps advancing it's going to affect his ability to gracefully leave his current team. The Celtics were a great fall back excuse. Oh they're a great defensive team and they outplayed us and they didn't allow me to get to my spots on the floor. Yeah ok LeBron, whatever you say homie. 3 years in the making yall. LeBron didn't want the Cavs to advance or get real good because then he would be scrutinized for his decision on leaving. I mean hell, LeBron messed up the Cavs getting Mike Miller, told him wait for his decision. Dude str8 handcuffed the Cavs orginization for the past three years and at least the next two or three. !*+!@ is a @%+!*
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lol. That's pretty good. CP said it best though. I've read a couple of posts talking about LeBron not having any help. Well all the signings and trades that Cavs made, were done with LeBron's blessing. But whenever the Cavs went after a big player, they wouldn't sign, why? LeBron would not commit or even show that he might commit to the Cavs. All this LeBron played with bums and sorry players is nonsense. You don't win 60+ games playing with bums. But you do lose in the playoffs when the player knows if he keeps advancing it's going to affect his ability to gracefully leave his current team. The Celtics were a great fall back excuse. Oh they're a great defensive team and they outplayed us and they didn't allow me to get to my spots on the floor. Yeah ok LeBron, whatever you say homie. 3 years in the making yall. LeBron didn't want the Cavs to advance or get real good because then he would be scrutinized for his decision on leaving. I mean hell, LeBron messed up the Cavs getting Mike Miller, told him wait for his decision. Dude str8 handcuffed the Cavs orginization for the past three years and at least the next two or three. !*+!@ is a @%+!*
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Like I said shut up you sound stupid. How the hell do you bring up someone's(mind you someone you do not know) entire life then try to disregard his childhood. Childhood is a part of life idiot. He didn't disrepect Akron AT ALL. Cleveland eh maybe, the organization definitely, but Akron? Not at all. I never said you had to respect him g, don't know WHY you're bringing that up but you do not know what goes on behind closed doors to question his character. Even the best men don't handle every situation correctly. I don't know how you could take his decision and say that his life is not a positive nothing to something story. I don't even know how you could take anything that you've known about him for the short 10 years he's been in the national public eye and make that deduction. It's obvious you have some sort of negative bias towards him and now is the perfect time to let it out.....we get it.
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Like I said shut up you sound stupid. How the hell do you bring up someone's(mind you someone you do not know) entire life then try to disregard his childhood. Childhood is a part of life idiot. He didn't disrepect Akron AT ALL. Cleveland eh maybe, the organization definitely, but Akron? Not at all. I never said you had to respect him g, don't know WHY you're bringing that up but you do not know what goes on behind closed doors to question his character. Even the best men don't handle every situation correctly. I don't know how you could take his decision and say that his life is not a positive nothing to something story. I don't even know how you could take anything that you've known about him for the short 10 years he's been in the national public eye and make that deduction. It's obvious you have some sort of negative bias towards him and now is the perfect time to let it out.....we get it.
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In my opinion it is easy for michael, magic or larry to say they did not want to team up and play together. They all had future hall of famers on the team with them and it was a very different league back then.
Michael had : scottie pippen (hall of famer, and top 50) dennis rodman (should be a hall of famer) toni kukoc (at that time one of the best players in the world), ron harper ( who dialed down his game to be with the bulls)
Larry had : kevin mchale (top 50, who did not even start and was a 6th man) robert parish (top 50) bill walton (top 50, even though he was injured most of the time) rick carlise, dennis johnson (hall of famer) ,
Magic had : kareem (top 50), big game james (top 50) , michael cooper ( multiple defensive player of the year and 1st team all defense), kurt rambis (consistent performer on multiple championship teams),
there are probably some other players that I am missing with some accolades that I can't remember right now. But when you look at Lebron's cast and crew outside of a past his prime shaq is there anybody, who will even make the hall of fame. I will always say this lebron other 4 starters were backups backing up backups. This year clev. only could have signed lebron and not brought him any help again. I mean what good is it to take scrubs to 60 plus wins and go hone in the second round every year. The antwan jamision trade was just a wasted move. I am willing to bet that if jordan, magic or bird had the cast lebron had they would have jumped ship as well. Here is a good comparison on our level : When we go to our local gym or park do we get on a team with 4 scrubs and try to run the gym , or do you get a a squad with people who you know you can depend on (usually the better folks in the gym) and run the gym. I think we all try to get on the best possible team. So consequently that is what we have here, some one who wanted to get on a better team even if it meant taking a diminishing role. I mean Lebron was on pace to have the all time scoring record by 36 but what does that matter, if you are not winning and you are going home in the second round every year with no stars on your team. IF lebron had a dependable number 2 guy like a pippen, then i could see him staying but he did not have that so I can not blame him for leaving.
Michael had : scottie pippen (hall of famer, and top 50) dennis rodman (should be a hall of famer) toni kukoc (at that time one of the best players in the world), ron harper ( who dialed down his game to be with the bulls)
Larry had : kevin mchale (top 50, who did not even start and was a 6th man) robert parish (top 50) bill walton (top 50, even though he was injured most of the time) rick carlise, dennis johnson (hall of famer) ,
Magic had : kareem (top 50), big game james (top 50) , michael cooper ( multiple defensive player of the year and 1st team all defense), kurt rambis (consistent performer on multiple championship teams),
there are probably some other players that I am missing with some accolades that I can't remember right now. But when you look at Lebron's cast and crew outside of a past his prime shaq is there anybody, who will even make the hall of fame. I will always say this lebron other 4 starters were backups backing up backups. This year clev. only could have signed lebron and not brought him any help again. I mean what good is it to take scrubs to 60 plus wins and go hone in the second round every year. The antwan jamision trade was just a wasted move. I am willing to bet that if jordan, magic or bird had the cast lebron had they would have jumped ship as well. Here is a good comparison on our level : When we go to our local gym or park do we get on a team with 4 scrubs and try to run the gym , or do you get a a squad with people who you know you can depend on (usually the better folks in the gym) and run the gym. I think we all try to get on the best possible team. So consequently that is what we have here, some one who wanted to get on a better team even if it meant taking a diminishing role. I mean Lebron was on pace to have the all time scoring record by 36 but what does that matter, if you are not winning and you are going home in the second round every year with no stars on your team. IF lebron had a dependable number 2 guy like a pippen, then i could see him staying but he did not have that so I can not blame him for leaving.
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In my opinion it is easy for michael, magic or larry to say they did not want to team up and play together. They all had future hall of famers on the team with them and it was a very different league back then.
Michael had : scottie pippen (hall of famer, and top 50) dennis rodman (should be a hall of famer) toni kukoc (at that time one of the best players in the world), ron harper ( who dialed down his game to be with the bulls)
Larry had : kevin mchale (top 50, who did not even start and was a 6th man) robert parish (top 50) bill walton (top 50, even though he was injured most of the time) rick carlise, dennis johnson (hall of famer) ,
Magic had : kareem (top 50), big game james (top 50) , michael cooper ( multiple defensive player of the year and 1st team all defense), kurt rambis (consistent performer on multiple championship teams),
there are probably some other players that I am missing with some accolades that I can't remember right now. But when you look at Lebron's cast and crew outside of a past his prime shaq is there anybody, who will even make the hall of fame. I will always say this lebron other 4 starters were backups backing up backups. This year clev. only could have signed lebron and not brought him any help again. I mean what good is it to take scrubs to 60 plus wins and go hone in the second round every year. The antwan jamision trade was just a wasted move. I am willing to bet that if jordan, magic or bird had the cast lebron had they would have jumped ship as well. Here is a good comparison on our level : When we go to our local gym or park do we get on a team with 4 scrubs and try to run the gym , or do you get a a squad with people who you know you can depend on (usually the better folks in the gym) and run the gym. I think we all try to get on the best possible team. So consequently that is what we have here, some one who wanted to get on a better team even if it meant taking a diminishing role. I mean Lebron was on pace to have the all time scoring record by 36 but what does that matter, if you are not winning and you are going home in the second round every year with no stars on your team. IF lebron had a dependable number 2 guy like a pippen, then i could see him staying but he did not have that so I can not blame him for leaving.
Michael had : scottie pippen (hall of famer, and top 50) dennis rodman (should be a hall of famer) toni kukoc (at that time one of the best players in the world), ron harper ( who dialed down his game to be with the bulls)
Larry had : kevin mchale (top 50, who did not even start and was a 6th man) robert parish (top 50) bill walton (top 50, even though he was injured most of the time) rick carlise, dennis johnson (hall of famer) ,
Magic had : kareem (top 50), big game james (top 50) , michael cooper ( multiple defensive player of the year and 1st team all defense), kurt rambis (consistent performer on multiple championship teams),
there are probably some other players that I am missing with some accolades that I can't remember right now. But when you look at Lebron's cast and crew outside of a past his prime shaq is there anybody, who will even make the hall of fame. I will always say this lebron other 4 starters were backups backing up backups. This year clev. only could have signed lebron and not brought him any help again. I mean what good is it to take scrubs to 60 plus wins and go hone in the second round every year. The antwan jamision trade was just a wasted move. I am willing to bet that if jordan, magic or bird had the cast lebron had they would have jumped ship as well. Here is a good comparison on our level : When we go to our local gym or park do we get on a team with 4 scrubs and try to run the gym , or do you get a a squad with people who you know you can depend on (usually the better folks in the gym) and run the gym. I think we all try to get on the best possible team. So consequently that is what we have here, some one who wanted to get on a better team even if it meant taking a diminishing role. I mean Lebron was on pace to have the all time scoring record by 36 but what does that matter, if you are not winning and you are going home in the second round every year with no stars on your team. IF lebron had a dependable number 2 guy like a pippen, then i could see him staying but he did not have that so I can not blame him for leaving.
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Originally Posted by KB8isCLUTCH
Grasping at straws. Taking a quote from magic when he was in COLLEGE and not yet an established player in the league and comparing that to lebrons situation??
keep laughing buddy. Did you read the fact that he said that during the NBA FINALS AGAINST THE BULLS in CHICAGO.
Magic said that he was looking to beat Bird from college. FROM COLLEGE! They were rivals from the get go. Lebron never played against these boys in college cuz he never went. There is no natural rivalry there. Toronto is and always will be irrelevant as will and more so, Cleveland. Free agents didnt sign there cuz Lebron's lack of commitment. No, cuz no one wants to go there. plain and simple. At least Toronto is a beautiful city.
I love the fact that everyone is coming together to spew hate onto the Heat. Ya'll keep spending time arguing your points. I'll come in periodically to smash your ill conceived points and leave to live my life and enjoy the W's racking up while spending Sundays poolside at the W.
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Originally Posted by KB8isCLUTCH
Grasping at straws. Taking a quote from magic when he was in COLLEGE and not yet an established player in the league and comparing that to lebrons situation??
keep laughing buddy. Did you read the fact that he said that during the NBA FINALS AGAINST THE BULLS in CHICAGO.
Magic said that he was looking to beat Bird from college. FROM COLLEGE! They were rivals from the get go. Lebron never played against these boys in college cuz he never went. There is no natural rivalry there. Toronto is and always will be irrelevant as will and more so, Cleveland. Free agents didnt sign there cuz Lebron's lack of commitment. No, cuz no one wants to go there. plain and simple. At least Toronto is a beautiful city.
I love the fact that everyone is coming together to spew hate onto the Heat. Ya'll keep spending time arguing your points. I'll come in periodically to smash your ill conceived points and leave to live my life and enjoy the W's racking up while spending Sundays poolside at the W.
South Florida baby.
HEAT DOLPHINS HURRICANES MARLINS. We continue to build our legacy.
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