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Does Jr. have a say as to if or when the AGM's will be retroed?
The Kid Griffey Jr. wearing the BEST cleats in the Game!
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^That's an interesting question. I'm sure some of the HQ Nike employees know the answer.
Reason I say is because Jr. has been with Nike for almost 20 years. He's had 9 signature shoes (10 if you count the Furys). The 90's....nuff said. Onthe verge of 600 and is Nike's most marketable/successful baseball spokesperson. You would think he would have more influence than most.
Ultimately, it's Nike's decision. The AGMI has a strong following and I KNOW they know this.
Reason I say is because Jr. has been with Nike for almost 20 years. He's had 9 signature shoes (10 if you count the Furys). The 90's....nuff said. Onthe verge of 600 and is Nike's most marketable/successful baseball spokesperson. You would think he would have more influence than most.
Ultimately, it's Nike's decision. The AGMI has a strong following and I KNOW they know this.
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Oh my.........
SARASOTA - You approach Ken Griffey Jr., sitting in front of his locker, and your inquisitive compass points in one direction.
Baseball. You ask the Reds' right fielder about his new manager, Dusty Baker. You ask about his assault on 600 career home runs.
You ask what continues to motivate a 38-year-old who's accomplished what few before him have, and if winning a World Series remains his one unrealizedgoal.
Griffey provides answers, but the responses are muted, often fragmented, as though he's bored with the line of questioning.
"Every time I go somewhere, what do people want to talk about?'' he asks. "Baseball.''
It's probably always been this way, ever since Griffey first starred at Cincinnati's Moeller High School.
Baseball and Griffey. Griffey and baseball. Inextricably linked, a marriage of superstar and sport.
You try again. Surely hitting 600 home runs will mean something, won't it?
"That's not important,'' he says. "It's more important for everyone else outside this locker room. I don't go home thinking,'Oh, man, I'm this, I'm that.'
"I got other stuff I got to worry about.''
You have an idea what this other stuff is. So you change course, put down the baseball questions and pick up the ones assured to spark the discussion.
You ask about Griffey's children -- Trey, age 14; Taryn, age 12; Tevyn, age 5.
It works. Junior, often engaging, is now engaged.
"It ain't about me,'' he says. "It's about the relationship I have with my kids, that's the most important thing. Becausethere's not a whole lot of people who have that.
"Baseball is, yes, a small part of my life. But my kids are going to be with me through my whole life. As a dad, I owe it to them to be there as much aspossible.''
Following that afternoon's game, Griffey will drive to Tampa. Taryn is playing there in an AAU basketball game.
"When I'm a fan, I sit away from everybody to watch my kid play. I'm like everybody else, my main focus is on them.''
The game before, the Reds played at night. Had it been a day game, Griffey would have showered afterward, dressed and driven to Orlando, his home, to watchTrey play a junior high basketball game.
"I would have watched the game,'' he says, "driven back and got back around 1:30.''
A superior baseball talent, Griffey might be a more exceptional father.
And not just with his own children. Several days ago, through the Make-A-Wish Foundation, an Ohio child suffering from cancer got to visit Sarasota, watch aReds' game and spend some time with Griffey.
Ten or 15 minutes probably would have satisfied the child.
Griffey stayed two hours.
During the season, arranging family time can be tough. If Griffey is playing in a city with familial ties, he'll have his three children and wife, Melissa,join him.
It's during the offseason when these bonds are strengthened. On Saturdays, the kids play football or basketball, and a member of the Griffey clan -- eitherJunior, his wife, his mom, dad or brother -- will be on hand.
"There's going to be a section of Griffeys somewhere,'' he says.
But Sundays are for golf. Or paintball. Or bowling. Or tennis. Or go-karts.
All of it, all in the family.
"There's not a day when we're like, 'Aahhh,''' he says. "Usually I pick the event. They know I'm going to win. I alwayspick sports I know I'm going to win.''
Such as paintball. And why shouldn't Griffey win? He paid $2,000 for his gun.
Actually, his children all have the same gun. Melissa included.
"Just that her's is pink,'' he says.
The object of paintball is to capture the flag, usually hung in the middle of the course.
That's the usual objective. Just not Junior's objective. Or Taryn's.
"No, we try to eliminate everybody,'' he says. "We don't even go for the flag.''
Go-karts might be the children's favorite activity. That's because dad doesn't always take home the checkered flag.
"Only because their go-karts are lighter,'' he says. "My car is faster. I have my own car. We all do.''
If Junior paid $2,000 for a paintball gun, how much did he fork over for his go-kart, which is brought to the track on a trailer?
"Enough.''
So to Ken Griffey Jr.'s kids, he's dad. But when they're around Ken Griffey Jr., future Hall of Famer, at least two of them know the drill.
"The two older ones understand what I've done,'' he says, "but the youngest one, he's like, 'Why are they looking at you likethat? Why are they having you sign that?
"'And why are you messing up my time?'"
Don't worry, Tevyn.
Guaranteed, daddy will make it up.
SARASOTA - You approach Ken Griffey Jr., sitting in front of his locker, and your inquisitive compass points in one direction.
Baseball. You ask the Reds' right fielder about his new manager, Dusty Baker. You ask about his assault on 600 career home runs.
You ask what continues to motivate a 38-year-old who's accomplished what few before him have, and if winning a World Series remains his one unrealizedgoal.
Griffey provides answers, but the responses are muted, often fragmented, as though he's bored with the line of questioning.
"Every time I go somewhere, what do people want to talk about?'' he asks. "Baseball.''
It's probably always been this way, ever since Griffey first starred at Cincinnati's Moeller High School.
Baseball and Griffey. Griffey and baseball. Inextricably linked, a marriage of superstar and sport.
You try again. Surely hitting 600 home runs will mean something, won't it?
"That's not important,'' he says. "It's more important for everyone else outside this locker room. I don't go home thinking,'Oh, man, I'm this, I'm that.'
"I got other stuff I got to worry about.''
You have an idea what this other stuff is. So you change course, put down the baseball questions and pick up the ones assured to spark the discussion.
You ask about Griffey's children -- Trey, age 14; Taryn, age 12; Tevyn, age 5.
It works. Junior, often engaging, is now engaged.
"It ain't about me,'' he says. "It's about the relationship I have with my kids, that's the most important thing. Becausethere's not a whole lot of people who have that.
"Baseball is, yes, a small part of my life. But my kids are going to be with me through my whole life. As a dad, I owe it to them to be there as much aspossible.''
Following that afternoon's game, Griffey will drive to Tampa. Taryn is playing there in an AAU basketball game.
"When I'm a fan, I sit away from everybody to watch my kid play. I'm like everybody else, my main focus is on them.''
The game before, the Reds played at night. Had it been a day game, Griffey would have showered afterward, dressed and driven to Orlando, his home, to watchTrey play a junior high basketball game.
"I would have watched the game,'' he says, "driven back and got back around 1:30.''
A superior baseball talent, Griffey might be a more exceptional father.
And not just with his own children. Several days ago, through the Make-A-Wish Foundation, an Ohio child suffering from cancer got to visit Sarasota, watch aReds' game and spend some time with Griffey.
Ten or 15 minutes probably would have satisfied the child.
Griffey stayed two hours.
During the season, arranging family time can be tough. If Griffey is playing in a city with familial ties, he'll have his three children and wife, Melissa,join him.
It's during the offseason when these bonds are strengthened. On Saturdays, the kids play football or basketball, and a member of the Griffey clan -- eitherJunior, his wife, his mom, dad or brother -- will be on hand.
"There's going to be a section of Griffeys somewhere,'' he says.
But Sundays are for golf. Or paintball. Or bowling. Or tennis. Or go-karts.
All of it, all in the family.
"There's not a day when we're like, 'Aahhh,''' he says. "Usually I pick the event. They know I'm going to win. I alwayspick sports I know I'm going to win.''
Such as paintball. And why shouldn't Griffey win? He paid $2,000 for his gun.
Actually, his children all have the same gun. Melissa included.
"Just that her's is pink,'' he says.
The object of paintball is to capture the flag, usually hung in the middle of the course.
That's the usual objective. Just not Junior's objective. Or Taryn's.
"No, we try to eliminate everybody,'' he says. "We don't even go for the flag.''
Go-karts might be the children's favorite activity. That's because dad doesn't always take home the checkered flag.
"Only because their go-karts are lighter,'' he says. "My car is faster. I have my own car. We all do.''
If Junior paid $2,000 for a paintball gun, how much did he fork over for his go-kart, which is brought to the track on a trailer?
"Enough.''
So to Ken Griffey Jr.'s kids, he's dad. But when they're around Ken Griffey Jr., future Hall of Famer, at least two of them know the drill.
"The two older ones understand what I've done,'' he says, "but the youngest one, he's like, 'Why are they looking at you likethat? Why are they having you sign that?
"'And why are you messing up my time?'"
Don't worry, Tevyn.
Guaranteed, daddy will make it up.
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Looks like new gloves and new kicks......Nike......AGMI retro.....public is waiting.
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Jr's probably making Nike hold em back till he hits 600... then release a 'Beginning Moments Pack' with the AGM 1's & 2's...
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Now that would be worth camping for......
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Honestly, I'm not sure the world cares as much about Griffey (or his shoes) as much as we do, so I'm not sure a retro would fly.
Sure, 90% of the people replying in this thread would get them, and probably 70% of NikeTalk, but not the rest of the world. They're hot to us, but I neversaw them as hot to anyone else. I've always taken pride in my Griffey collection, but I seldom get compliments on them, or have people start conversationsabout them. Like my Foamposites, I see people looking, and when I wear them to friend's houses, someone always says something about them. "Oh, son...I remember them! Man, Penny was fire in those!" Same with Jordans (obviously). But Griffeys? Not even close to the same 'respect' or admirationfrom people when I strut in 'em.
I have absolutely no idea why that is, because those Griffey Max Is are freaking INSANE looking, in my opinion.
But I don't really pick up on a general agreement from the rest of the world.
But hey, Air Flares retroed... even though they butchered 'em.
Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see. Obviously, I would LOVE for an AGM I retro, ESPECIALLY in a Reds colorway (matches Angels gear
).
Sure, 90% of the people replying in this thread would get them, and probably 70% of NikeTalk, but not the rest of the world. They're hot to us, but I neversaw them as hot to anyone else. I've always taken pride in my Griffey collection, but I seldom get compliments on them, or have people start conversationsabout them. Like my Foamposites, I see people looking, and when I wear them to friend's houses, someone always says something about them. "Oh, son...I remember them! Man, Penny was fire in those!" Same with Jordans (obviously). But Griffeys? Not even close to the same 'respect' or admirationfrom people when I strut in 'em.
I have absolutely no idea why that is, because those Griffey Max Is are freaking INSANE looking, in my opinion.
But I don't really pick up on a general agreement from the rest of the world.
But hey, Air Flares retroed... even though they butchered 'em.
Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see. Obviously, I would LOVE for an AGM I retro, ESPECIALLY in a Reds colorway (matches Angels gear
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^ I know what you mean... but at the same time, like you said, Nike's retroed shoes that were a lot less popular than the Grifs, so I guess its stillpossible... and please keep em in the Mariners colorway...
how were the Flare's butchered? from what I remember, they seem pretty close to the 94 version...
how were the Flare's butchered? from what I remember, they seem pretty close to the 94 version...
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griffeys would flllly in my hood, you know dominicans LOVE baseball
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I still have that VHS.Originally Posted by TheOtherAI9
I remember those from that Junior VHS I used to have. Him, his brother, and Ken, Sr. Had me imitating his swing for months
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SinnerP:
^ I know what you mean... but at the same time, like you said, Nike's retroed shoes that were a lot less popular than the Grifs, so I guess its still possible... and please keep em in the Mariners colorway...
how were the Flare's butchered? from what I remember, they seem pretty close to the 94 version...
Mainly the quality was nowhere close, and not one retro had a backwards swoosh. That's what I missed the most on the retros; no backwardsswooshes on any of the colorways. Not all of the colorways of the originals had backwards swooshes, but some did. But not one of the retros did.
My original Flares:
And since this is a Griffey thread, I'll throw these in here, too:
Yes, a very, VERY large majority of my shoes have different laces. That's me.
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^ ahh... gotcha... didn't the catalogue pic of the retro have the backwards swoosh? I actually still have my 2000 retros... some might say those werebutchered as well, but for some reason, I prefered that outsole and the Agassi 'A' on the tongue...
anyway, back on topic... can you still wear those AGMs? no cracking, etc?
anyway, back on topic... can you still wear those AGMs? no cracking, etc?
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I hear what you're saying as far Griffey and PROPER recongnition. That's baseball for ya. On the other hand. everyone knows the name Griffey. Even themost jaded Basketball fan. Hell, he ruled an entire decade.
I can't see how Nike would retro nice (and not so nice) kicks frorm 95/96 and not touch the AGM. Then go ahead and tease folks with crazy PE retros. Twoseasons in a row no less.
Time will tell.
Iwill say this. Regionally, the AGM would sell crazy in the Northwest. You have to live here to realize that Griff still has a huge following. We booed our ownpitchers for not giving him something to hit. LOL
I can't see how Nike would retro nice (and not so nice) kicks frorm 95/96 and not touch the AGM. Then go ahead and tease folks with crazy PE retros. Twoseasons in a row no less.
Time will tell.
Iwill say this. Regionally, the AGM would sell crazy in the Northwest. You have to live here to realize that Griff still has a huge following. We booed our ownpitchers for not giving him something to hit. LOL
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SinnerP:
ahh... gotcha... didn't the catalogue pic of the retro have the backwards swoosh? I actually still have my 2000 retros... some might say those were butchered as well, but for some reason, I prefered that outsole and the Agassi 'A' on the tongue...
Yes, the 2000 Flares are on POINT. I don't have a pair of 'em, but I'd love to have a pair with the Agassi logo on the tongue insteadfo the Nike logo.SinnerP:
anyway, back on topic... can you still wear those AGMs? no cracking, etc?
I wear those AGMs all the freaking time.I don't buy shoes to collect. I don't have the room or the patience to have a shoe just tohave; I have to wear 'em at some point, or I don't want 'em.
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Can someone post Ken's kicksology during the years? It would be much appreciated!
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Sneaker?
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hmmmm.... where's Marky? we need a hi-rez...
AGMII's... but with just a plain foam sole? hmm....
hi-rez of this would also be greatly appreciated...
AGMII's... but with just a plain foam sole? hmm....
hi-rez of this would also be greatly appreciated...
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Couldn't find a hi-res via my normal methods... I did find a slightly larger shot though, and i blew it up a little bit so we can all speculate:
It's tough to say if it's even a sneaker or a cleat. I'd love if there was an TL Max bubble obscured by the grass, but you just can't tell(even if this was a true high-res).
It's tough to say if it's even a sneaker or a cleat. I'd love if there was an TL Max bubble obscured by the grass, but you just can't tell(even if this was a true high-res).
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Looks very interesting. I guess we will have to wait until opening day.
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Happy Opening Day...
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Marky - My man...
I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself scoring from first...
I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself scoring from first...
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Originally Posted by SinnerP
Marky - My man...
I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself scoring from first...
Haha... yeah, I'm trying to be all over these pics. I just keep hoping that one day the bottoms of his pants fly up just a little bit...
And as far as thinking he'd hurt himself... I think that's everybody's fear every time he does anything athletic. I'm really hoping he canstay off the DL this year (but that's probably not likely).
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I swear he velcros his cuffs down or something. Even Andruws come up every now and then.
It's good to see that Griffey STILL has the hustle. Albeit slower, it's still the type of hustle that'll land him on the DL. Good stuff.
It's good to see that Griffey STILL has the hustle. Albeit slower, it's still the type of hustle that'll land him on the DL. Good stuff.
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reminiscent of him scoring from first on Edgar's double... just a bit slower... haha
come on, we all know he keeps his cuffs down purposely to tease us fools... the more we want to see, the more he hides em...
come on, we all know he keeps his cuffs down purposely to tease us fools... the more we want to see, the more he hides em...
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Taken from the MLB Cleats thread... for comparison purposes....
Thanks to Formerly Scarface81 for the discovery...
Thanks to Formerly Scarface81 for the discovery...
