The NBA Draft Thread

[B Sox]

Heard through the grapevine that the ONLY way Kevin Durant comes to LA is if Lakers draft Ingram and trade him in a package to include another future draft pick plus Randle and Young to Sactown for Boogie Cousins and a throw-in (Seth Curry?)


With Cousins, Russell, Clarkson, Nance and Durant as your starters, the Lakers suddenly become a legitimate playoff contender.

Plus the Lakers would still have a little bit of money left over to sign another impact veteran or mid-level role player such as Ezeli, Barnes, Ryan Anderson, Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, etc.

There are reports on ESPN stating that the Lakers are expected to take Ingram with the second pick, "barring an unexpected blockbuster trade."

Nobody is reporting that the Lakers are in talks with Sacramento. And the way the Lakers usually do it is to keep things on the hush. Stay tuned.


PG: Russell
SG: Clarkson
SF: Durant
PF: Nance Jr
C:  Cousins

Bench:  Lou Williams, Tarik Black, Seth Curry, Marcelo Huertas, Anthony Brown, plus Free Agent PF or Big

4th best team in the West perhaps.

 

[slick vitale]

Through the grapevine huh?

 

[frink85]

Multiple sauces

 

[rck3sactown]

heard thru the grapevine Cousins really doesn't want to play for the Lakers

 

[lovehateself]

All that for boogie, hell nah to the nah nah nah

 

[whiplashtw03]

Heard through the grapevine that the ONLY way Kevin Durant comes to LA is if Lakers draft Ingram and trade him in a package to include another future draft pick plus Randle and Young to Sactown for Boogie Cousins and a throw-in (Seth Curry?)


With Cousins, Russell, Clarkson, Nance and Durant as your starters, the Lakers suddenly become a legitimate playoff contender.

Plus the Lakers would still have a little bit of money left over to sign another impact veteran or mid-level role player such as Ezeli, Barnes, Ryan Anderson, Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, etc.

There are reports on ESPN stating that the Lakers are expected to take Ingram with the second pick, "barring an unexpected blockbuster trade."

Nobody is reporting that the Lakers are in talks with Sacramento. And the way the Lakers usually do it is to keep things on the hush. Stay tuned.


PG: Russell
SG: Clarkson
SF: Durant
PF: Nance Jr
C:  Cousins

Bench:  Lou Williams, Tarik Black, Seth Curry, Marcelo Huertas, Anthony Brown, plus Free Agent PF or Big

4th best team in the West perhaps.

That would be pretty accurate I'd say. It would certainly put the Lakers back on the map.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Don't underestimate the Lakers as a desired destination in spite of their losing record the last few years. They're still a top organization and Buss family wants to win NOW.

 

[rck3sactown]

Naw I've literally heard thru the grapevine he doesn't want to play for the Lakers


Heard it from a Lakers fan no less so you know the sauce is real

 

[whiplashtw03]

Cousins would play for any team not named Sacramento. He is itching to play in a big market no doubt

 

[rck3sactown]

You need to check your grapevine man....


Couldn't be anymore wrong about that

 

[whiplashtw03]

You need to check your grapevine man....


Couldn't be anymore wrong about that

We'll shall see. The Lakers were aggressive in trying to acquire Cousins last year before talks stalled and eventually died. Now the Lakers have what Sacramento wants - picks and assets. And if you think Cousins doesn't want to come to the bright lights of L.A. and instead wants to be a Sacramento King his entire career and be a loser for the next 5 years while wasting his prime, then it proves that people from Sactown are still bitter about losing Game 7 in the WCF at home to the Lakers over 14 years ago.

 

[kingjaffejo]

Marvin Gaye's grapevine is the only grapevine I trust

 

[slick vitale]

 
We'll shall see. The Lakers were aggressive in trying to acquire Cousins last year before talks stalled and eventually died. Now the Lakers have what Sacramento wants - picks and assets. 

Your grapevine proposal is the same exact deal that was on the table last year. 

 Randle & #2 for Cousins. 

What's different? Seth Curry? 

 

[whiplashtw03]

 

 
We'll shall see. The Lakers were aggressive in trying to acquire Cousins last year before talks stalled and eventually died. Now the Lakers have what Sacramento wants - picks and assets. 

Your grapevine proposal is the same exact deal that was on the table last year. 

 Randle & #2 for Cousins. 

What's different? Seth Curry? 

But that #2 turned out to be Russell. Why would Sacramento want Russell when they already had Rondo & Collison? That's why talks died.

This year, they have Ingram, who has drawn comparisons to Durant. Ingram is also a multi-position player that has length and can play both ends of the floor. Randle + Ingram is far more enticing than Randle and Russell.

 

[slick vitale]

 
But that #2 turned out to be Russell. Why would Sacramento want Russell when they already had Rondo & Collison? That's why talks died.

This year, they have Ingram, who has drawn comparisons to Durant. Ingram is also a multi-position player that has length and can play both ends of the floor. Randle + Ingram is far more enticing than Randle and Russell.

The deal was proposed before the draft and free agency. Rondo wasn't even on the roster yet.

 

[mj 23]

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Where is this from?

 

[essential1]

Sacramento can go to hell for all I care. I'm not trading Ingram and Randle and future picks for Boogie.

Also if you were KD... Why would you circle your wagon around a guy who can't even remotely lead his team near the playoffs.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Through the grapevine.

The World Wide Web is a wonderful place man, you can say anything your heart desires as long as you have a keyboard and Internet connection.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Sacramento can go to hell for all I care. I'm not trading Ingram and Randle and future picks for Boogie.

Also if you were KD... Why would you circle your wagon around a guy who can't even remotely lead his team near the playoffs.

I can certainly remember another big name big man Chris Weber who couldn't even remotely lead his team near the playoffs with two teams and when he was moved to a new city (Sacramento), fresh start, new scenery, and was surrounded by the right talent, he flourished and if it weren't for Shaq and Kobe, he would've won a chip.

Same thing can be said for Chris Bosh, who barely made the playoffs twice with Toronto in a very weak Eastern Conference, but as soon as he is paired with Wade and James, next thing you know he flourishes.

I can go back even further into the 80s and 90s and find other All-Star bigs who didn't initially succeed as a winner but they had enormous talent and when they changed scenery, they end up being on successful playoff contenders.

Cousins is a top-flight talent who just hasn't been in the right environment for success. You pair him with another proven leader and playoff tested star such as Durant, and just like that he's an MVP candidate on a playoff contender and has the chance to lead a storied organization.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Through the grapevine.

The World Wide Web is a wonderful place man, you can say anything your heart desires as long as you have a keyboard and Internet connection.

True that. But what are you gonna say if my "source" ends up being correct?

Stand by...

I love it when people underestimate the Lakers. We'll be right back on the championship map before you know it. Been there, done that. 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s....EVERY DECADE for the last 50 years the Lakers are building championship contending teams that either reach the Finals or win it all. FACTS.

 

[whiplashtw03]

 

 
But that #2 turned out to be Russell. Why would Sacramento want Russell when they already had Rondo & Collison? That's why talks died.

This year, they have Ingram, who has drawn comparisons to Durant. Ingram is also a multi-position player that has length and can play both ends of the floor. Randle + Ingram is far more enticing than Randle and Russell.

The deal was proposed before the draft and free agency. Rondo wasn't even on the roster yet.

Doesn't matter if Rondo wasn't even on the roster yet. Sacramento probably already knew they were getting him. And even if they didn't, Russell was too big of a question mark for them to consider trading Cousins for him. And it still doesn't change the fact the Kings already had a starting caliber PG in Collison. But with Ingram, you have a more desirable piece that you can build around and has franchise player potential written all over him.

I'm sure Vlade Divac would be salivating a lot more looking at a lineup of Collison, Gay, Ingram, Randle, and WCS than he would over Russell, Collison, Gay, Cousins, and Casspi.

 

[slick vitale]

 
I can certainly remember another big name big man Chris Weber who couldn't even remotely lead his team near the playoffs with two teams and when he was moved to a new city (Sacramento), fresh start, new scenery, and was surrounded by the right talent, he flourished and if it weren't for Shaq and Kobe, he would've won a chip.

Doesn't matter if Rondo wasn't even on the roster yet. Sacramento probably already knew they were getting him. And even if they didn't, Russell was too big of a question mark for them to consider trading Cousins for him. And it still doesn't change the fact the Kings already had a starting caliber PG in Collison. But with Ingram, you have a more desirable piece that you can build around and has franchise player potential written all over him.

I'm sure Vlade Divac would be salivating a lot more looking at a lineup of Collison, Gay, Ingram, Randle, and WCS than he would over Russell, Collison, Gay, Cousins, and Casspi.

Now you just saying anything 

They "knew they were getting Rondo" huh? I didn't know that's how FA worked.

Russell and Ingram are in the same tier of prospects in their respective drafts. And what GM says, "I got Collison at point guard...let me not take a look at D'Angelo Russell"? 

 

[kingjaffejo]

Now you just saying anything 

They "knew they were getting Rondo" huh? I didn't know that's how FA worked.

Russell and Ingram are in the same tier of prospects in their respective draft. 

Hey but at least he's passionate

 

[whiplashtw03]

 

 
I can certainly remember another big name big man Chris Weber who couldn't even remotely lead his team near the playoffs with two teams and when he was moved to a new city (Sacramento), fresh start, new scenery, and was surrounded by the right talent, he flourished and if it weren't for Shaq and Kobe, he would've won a chip.

Doesn't matter if Rondo wasn't even on the roster yet. Sacramento probably already knew they were getting him. And even if they didn't, Russell was too big of a question mark for them to consider trading Cousins for him. And it still doesn't change the fact the Kings already had a starting caliber PG in Collison. But with Ingram, you have a more desirable piece that you can build around and has franchise player potential written all over him.

I'm sure Vlade Divac would be salivating a lot more looking at a lineup of Collison, Gay, Ingram, Randle, and WCS than he would over Russell, Collison, Gay, Cousins, and Casspi.

Now you just saying anything 

They "knew they were getting Rondo" huh? I didn't know that's how FA worked.

Russell and Ingram are in the same tier of prospects in their respective drafts. And what GM says, "I got Collison at point guard...let me not take a look at D'Angelo Russell"? 

You miss the point. Why take Russell when you have a starter in Collison? Period.

Meanwhile, you have an old injury prone guy in Casspi that Divac wouldn't hesitate one bit in replacing with Ingram.

As far as C-Webb "leading" the Bullets to the playoffs....if you consider "playoff success" as the #8 seed in the weak East that got swept by the Bulls in the first round to be such a great accomplishment, then so be it. All I can say is that if the Bullets felt so great about C-Webb, then C-Webb would've stayed in Washington instead being dealt to Sacramento. He wanted out of Washington, he wore out his welcome in D.C. just like Cousins is slowly wearing out his welcome in Sactown (if he hasn't already done so).

 

[whiplashtw03]

The format no longer exists, but I was once a blog writer for FoxSports.com from 2005-2008. And about 1-2 months before the trade happened, I wrote that the Lakers would acquire Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies. And the rest is history.

You can tell me I'm full of it all you want, but if I'm right about Boogie coming to the Lakers via trade, well...

And if I'm wrong, then I'll be the first to admit that my "source" fed me somethin' Chris Broussard lol