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spreading misinformation for what

TWO WAY JOKIC
 
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spreading misinformation for what

TWO WAY JOKIC

Jokic my favorite player but let's be real.


Box plus minus is a box score stat, it estimates defensive performance

based off of how many steals, defensive rebounds, blocks players get relative to other players on their team.


Jokic is good at compiling defensive box score stats, but actually stopping people?


The nuggets have had basically 1 series where they held a team under the league average offensive rating. Nuggs-Clips in the bubble.

Basically every series, they've been roasted somewhere between 5-10 points worse than league avg.


a non versatile, slow footed center who can only play 1 scheme is a liability
regardless of how many defensive rebounds he can get.
 
It was all good just 5 days ago….
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So the defending champs have 2 less losses and 3 games back from the Lakers who are having a disaster of a season and are now in the play-in… congrats?

Don’t know what point you’re trying to prove.

Should the defending champs not be a top seed?
 
BOS lost last night cause Horford and Timelord were missing, causing the Celtics to get outrebounded by 14 and outscored in the paint by 8 against the already small Warriors. Missing the bigs also caused Tatum to not look like himself in a super high profile matchup.

I'm sure the Celtics know how important Timelord and Horford are to their title aspirations. If either or both of those two are hurt, Boston ain't gonna make it too far in the playoffs.
 
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And the Pacers still lost.

BK still not serious. They should get the maximum return on their stars in a dump off and build w/ Cam Thomas & the youts in return.
 
So then you’ve see the light on Rudy too. Excellent.

This is just a myth, prime Gobert could switch, hedge or drop just fine
this idea that any guard could roast him like Jokic just is nonsense.
he was just way way better as a drop guy.

his defensive stats on isolations have always been pretty good.

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Jokic can only hedge,
 
BOS lost last night cause Horford and Timelord were missing, causing the Celtics to get outrebounded by 14 and outscored in the paint by 8 against the already small Warriors. Missing the bigs also caused Tatum to not look like himself in a super high profile matchup.

I'm sure the Celtics know how important Timelord and Horford are to their title aspirations. If either or both of those two are hurt, Boston ain't gonna make it too far in the playoffs.

Celtics outrebounded the warriors in the finals and still lost. Horford is Steph’s son so he wouldn’t have mattered.

Dubs got tatum in jail. Bigs or no bigs
 
Pretty much all of his DPOY seasons.

He's just best at drop so of course you play drop if you can.

But the idea that he's comparable to jokic is obviously ridiculous.
Every playoff series he’s played drop he was cooked minus the thunder series. The rockets had him on giligans island his first DPOY season. We saw what Jamal Murray did. We saw what Terrance mann did. We saw what Jalen Brunson did. Switching has never been a strong point for him.
 
Every playoff series he’s played drop he was cooked minus the thunder series. The rockets had him on giligans island his first DPOY season. We saw what Jamal Murray did. We saw what Terrance mann did. We saw what Jalen Brunson did. Switching has never been a strong point for him.

Let's take last year,
was Rudy Gobert cooked last year?

morons will say yes.

but facts are stubborn things.

The Jazz held the Mavs to basically the same offensive rating as GSW (a great playoff defense) 115 Ortg.
and they did better than the suns.

and you'll say well Luka was injured.

well the jazz defense only got better as the series went deeper.
In fact

their series offensive rating is basically being propped up by one game where they got hot
and shot 43% from 3.

1-4,5,6, they held them below their average playoff offensive rating,



So Rudy Gobert, and 4 bad defenders basically put up the same defensive performance as
the GSW defense did against luka and the Mavs

If Rudy got roasted did GSW switching get roasted?
the same defense that totally throttled the boston celtics?
 
would I rather have, more versatile defender like Bam, Draymond, Gannis, in the playoffs?

of course.


is Gobert a Jokic like defender in the playoffs?
Obviously not.

Add looney, Capela, and Timelord to that list. All more switchable.

You have a 3x DPOY who is probably the 7th best defender at his position in the league at best. he’s not worth defending and hasn’t been for years
 
Add looney, Capela, and Timelord to that list. All more switchable.

You have a 3x DPOY who is probably the 7th best defender at his position in the league at best. he’s not worth defending and hasn’t been for years

Rudy Gobert can be less valuable in the playoff.


you don't need to lie rewrite history to make that case.
 
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