The Official NBA Season Thread: Fries Discourse | Mavs vs Jazz

[shuges]

That is a fair take in terms of taking Lowry over Kyrie, that's just preference

But to say Irving's resume isn't HOF worthy is simply not accurate, judging off other resumes already in the HOF

Again, the HOF has nothing to do with "best leader" or "best personality" or "least team destroyer"

That team destroyer **** is the take Skip had on TO which kept that man from being 1st ballot.

Numbers and accomplishments are what fair voters look at for HOF. Leadership and off the court are excuses for people who have a grudge against said player.

Gobert is a HOFer with all those DPOYs the voters gave him. So to have Gobert in and Kyrie not would be an absolute joke.

 

[Moheezy]

Zach Lowe asked this question on his pod today.


Is Kyrie a hall of famer?

Although I wouldn't agree with it, he will most likely get in. It would be whatever the lowest tier of HoF is.

Without LeBron, his on court legacy would be that he plays teams to the bottom of the standing while putting up flashy moves.

His recent behavior might delay the HoF announcement by a decade or so.

 

[P C H]

It absolutely does not matter how you feel about Kyrie as a leader of teams, his behavior, etc. as it pertains to his HOF Resume

7x All Star is a 7x all star
4x all NBA is all NBA
ROY is ROY
An NBA Champ is an NBA Champ
A Gold Medal is a Gold Medal

Come on dawg he's a 1st Ballot hall of famer

 

[lovehateself]

Blows my mind Looney still can't get 30mpg, especially after his POST SEASON last year and the resting of Klay/Dray this year.

Dude was crazy for signing that 3/25

I don't think his body will allow more minutes than he's been playing season to season

this

he already had major questions regarding his hip coming out of ucla
dude looks like hes hurting everytime he runs up and down the court

 

[osh kosh bosh]

That is a fair take in terms of taking Lowry over Kyrie, that's just preference

But to say Irving's resume isn't HOF worthy is simply not accurate, judging off other resumes already in the HOF

Again, the HOF has nothing to do with "best leader" or "best personality" or "least team destroyer"

You don't need to have a nice personality.

Like Dwight Howard should be a HOF

BUT I think it's fair to ask you to be good at helping teams win basketball games.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Kyrie is def getting in the HoF. He may be more of a HoF talent that HoF career though tbh.

He gotta put him in the hall

I really want to hear that acceptance speech

After going from Native American shaman, to Islam, then to Black Hebrew Israelite.

Give-and-Go Goebells finna pull up to the induction ceremony in a full Santeria fit, and let his haters have it

The world can't be denied of that

 

[osh kosh bosh]

It absolutely does not matter how you feel about Kyrie as a leader of teams, his behavior, etc. as it pertains to his HOF Resume

7x All Star is a 7x all star
4x all NBA is all NBA
ROY is ROY
An NBA Champ is an NBA Champ
A Gold Medal is a Gold Medal

Come on dawg he's a 1st Ballot hall of famer

If he gets in on the first ballot they should burn the whole thing down tbh.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Although I wouldn't agree with it, he will most likely get in. It would be whatever the lowest tier of HoF is.

Without LeBron, his on court legacy would be that he plays teams to the bottom of the standing while putting up flashy moves.

His recent behavior might delay the HoF announcement by a decade or so.

If you gave Kyrie an All-NBA wing talent instead of LeBron I don't think it's unfair to think Irving still racks up those All-Star and All-NBA bids

Maybe not the ring but the Gold Medals and other stuff I think he'd still be able to accomplish

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Kyrie is def getting in the HoF. He may be more of a HoF talent that HoF career though tbh.

Are you a hall of fame talent

If your principle talent is destroying your team?

 

[P C H]

If he gets in on the first ballot they should burn the whole thing down tbh.

They should have been burned down the hall, but Tracy McGrady was a first ballot Hall of Famer as a 7 time all star with no rings or gold medal no game 7 NBA finals shot, no game 5 in the finals, and like, never getting out of the FIRST ROUND

Come on man

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

You don't need to have a nice personality.

Like Dwight Howard should be a HOF

BUT I think it's fair to ask you to be good at helping teams win basketball games.

That's fine but again, there's resumes already in the HOF that are less than Irving's

Your beef is with the criteria, I get that and I have my own gripes with who's in there too

You cannot leave Irving out if those other guys are already in

 

[osh kosh bosh]

If Kyrie goes in first ballot they shod put Hot Sauce and The Professor next.

HOF dribbling talents.

 

[P C H]

I can't believe what I'm reading.

TMAC is a first ballot HoF with 7 all star appearances, 7x all nba, no 2nd round appearances,

But we're questioning Kyrie Irving's Hall of Fame legitimacy?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

They should have been burned down the hall, but Tracy McGrady was a first ballot Hall of Famer as a 7 time all star with no rings or gold medal no game 7 NBA finals shot, no game 5 in the finals, and like, never getting out of the FIRST ROUND

Come on man

Prime Tracy McGrady is way way better than Kyrie.

 

[picasso swerve]

If Kyrie goes in first ballot they shod put Hot Sauce and The Professor next.

HOF dribbling talents.

Im still waiting on your answer to what thiccness do without Kawhi.

 

[krazy88s]

the no leadership thing sounds like some old man ****

this isn't MLB HOF where some years they don't have anyone get in

 

[ill steelo]

Zach Lowe asked this question on his pod today.


Is Kyrie a hall of famer?

He’s a clown but no need to be ridiculous

 

[P C H]

Prime Tracy McGrady is way way better than Kyrie.

That is not the point looool

He literally made it 1st ballot without winning a round

Kyrie may have the greatest shot in NBA history

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If Kyrie goes in first ballot they shod put Hot Sauce and The Professor next.

HOF dribbling talents.

"AND 1 Mixtape Tour Roster" should be in the HOF though.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Im still waiting on your answer to what thiccness do without Kawhi.

I think there are great support players 2nd banana guys who should be in the hall of fame.

Kyle was the leader of the team,and bailed kawhi and his one good leg out in game 6.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

If Kyrie goes in first ballot they shod put Hot Sauce and The Professor next.

HOF dribbling talents.

Yall gotta be able to spot a blatant troll job when you see one

 

[picasso swerve]

I think there are great support players 2nd banana guys who should be in the hall of fame.

Kyle was the leader of the team,and bailed kawhi and his one good leg out in game 6.

We just gonna forget that shot Ky hit in game 7?

 

[Kinfolk]

The nastiest part of situations like these is that the people that supported and played devil's advocate for Kyrie buffoonery don't like that Kyrie conceded he was wrong

I'm gathering that some of the people you're talking about didn't like that the acceptance of responsibility became more of an issue of semantics. It's not that they didn't like that he conceded, its the way in which he was forced to make the concession. His second concession, mind you.

Obviously can't speak for EVERYONE (you're right about a portion of people), but if we're being fair, the issue with the way Kyirie first addressed the incident was that it was not worded in a specific way.

I can't think of any other sports related examples where a player's initial attempt to address a wrong (where there was an expression of being contrite) was met with a suspension and ban, with their return to play contingent upon using specific phrases to appease a certain group of people.

If there was such a case can you remind me of who was involved?

 

[amitt5504]

There's worse resumes in the HOF

1 ring
7x All-Star
3x All-NBA
50-40-90
Olympic Gold Medal
World Cup Gold Medal

Would be a joke if he didn't get in

Tmac never made it out the 1st round but in there

 

[osh kosh bosh]

That is not the point looool

He literally made it 1st ballot without winning a round

Kyrie may have the greatest shot in NBA history

Do you think prime Tracy McGrady couldn't have made that shot

If LeBron brought him to the NBA finals?