dacomeup
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He’s going elsewhere if the Bucks collapse I think
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just 4 years ago they tried.
was the injury risk lower 4 years ago?
I didn't say it mattered more that the playoffs.
I said it matters, it generates tons of negative coverage of the NBA every year.
you got people with big platforms ****ting on it. I think it's more than a few angry people.
now you can say that doesn't matter, but it's not just a few angry people.
I don't have access to the NBA's KPI's but I think we can make reasonably informed guesses.
Spare me, I said no such thing. Nothing even close to thisit just feels like your argument is unless i have a spreadsheet with the exact amount of money lost by the league, then I can't criticize the players (who don't have access to that information either)
it feels like a god of the gaps argument if we don't know everysingle variable, we should default to the players anlysis..
really? every year players sit out for precautions, when has it ever been the case that player who feel they can get hurt gut it out?
maybe really famous guys who know people want to see them play one half or something. but I don't think it's true if you think you'll be hurt they'll fine you for not playing.
yeah i just think that's unreasonable, they don't take that attitude to any other exhibition basketball game, they don't even take that attitude towards pre season
its only the ASG that players suddenly demand zero risk, in a game that has historically had almost no serious injuries.
imo that indicates it's not injury risk that's fueling this.
i mean we saw what the all star game was like its some thing im imagining, it was certainly better than what we go last night.
im using a hyperbolic example to show what I think is a flaw in your argument.
If you wouldn't care if they just took turns taking half court shots, I think you are an extremely a typical fan.
most people like sports for the illusion of stakes. all the stakes in sports are made up,
we care because they care. and if they don't care, for many it ruins the product.
it just feels like an unreasonable burden of proof.
The NBA has tons of money on the line, they seem to think the all star game matters a lot. they seem to think marketing and press attention matters a lot.
they have more information on it than the players almost certainly. Im supposed to side with the players analysis because why?
- they are citing injury risk in a game where there have been almost no injuries
- they are complaining that the game is meaningless despite trying harder in games that are even more meaningless, pre season, pro ams, open runs ect.
I don't know why im supposed to think there desire to decrease the risk to zero is reasonable.
That is not my ******* argumentyou said they want zero risk of injury. there are safer ways to train, you don't need play in high school gyms at the Drew league.
it shows NBA players are totally capable of modulating their effort to avoid injury.
and I don't see how playing against some random dude with something to prove at a fitness club or in the drew league is going to be more of a risk than NBA players in an nba facility. with nba trainers.
sure but if you start calling out individuals you lose that group camouflage. Suddenly you try a bit harder because you don't want to be tarred as the worst guy, in sociology i think its called "last place aversion" and suddenly everyone's trying harder.
I don't know for sure it will work, but imo they need to try something. my argument is that this is bad and they should do something to fix it.
you seem to think its fine. which is fair enough.
Ok fineim not making some culture war argument about old people vs young people. sure if older players were in this environment I think the same thing will happen. because it's cool not to try.
that's why I think the NBA should do something to change the status quo.
This pic sums up all star weekend
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I love this, still select an all start team for honors and incentives/contractual purposesI have an idea.
1v1 tourney.
10mil grand prize.
Representative from each team
It’s like picking up your optiontbh 1 on 1 tourney with 10 million on the line presents a bigger risk for injury than 2010 asg level effort.
He wants out if they win tbh lmaoDame is definitely asking out after the Bucks lose
That man just wanted to go to South Beach, play with his bros and enjoy freshly single lifeDame is definitely asking out after the Bucks lose
5 rds totaltbh 1 on 1 tourney with 10 million on the line presents a bigger risk for injury than 2010 asg level effort.
The OG’s have always set the tone in the all star game so it’s been funny to see folks blame Luka/Jokic etc when Bron/KD and em just show up for a light scrimmage and dip at this pointBron is my guy, but really the big names did stop doing stuff outside of the 3 pt contest once he started slowing on all that.