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Basketball is more than scoring and his team won,who cares beside people who want to find something about him to complain about.Bro took 16 shots to score 16 points and many media members are going to excuse the inefficiency.
Kyrie took 16 shots and did even worse and his team lost so doesn’t seem like much needing excusing for a guy with 16-11-5 in a finals winBro took 16 shots to score 16 points and many media members are going to excuse the inefficiency.
Kyrie does not get the same praise or is looked at as a franchise level player like Tatum is bro cmon. We all know this is what Kyrie does. If we are putting them on the same level as player then fine. Lets give Brown the FMVP tooKyrie took 16 shots and did even worse and his team lost so doesn’t seem like much needing excusing for a guy with 16-11-5 in a finals win
Kyrie has had media personalities saying he’s inch for inch the most talented basketball player in the world the past two weeks. And he didn’t get that much hate for possibly his worst playoff game of all time while toting that basketball around everywhere.Kyrie does not get the same praise or is looked at as a franchise level player like Tatum is bro cmon. We all know this is what Kyrie does. If we are putting them on the same level as player then fine. Lets give Brown the FMVP too
Mannix needs to re-open this poll.
I don't look at Kyrie as that. I believe he's one of the best 2nd options of all time. Never thought he could lead a team as a number 1 nowhere. I'm not hung up on Tatum, I'm more hung up on the dialogue around Tatum.Kyrie has had media personalities saying he’s inch for inch the most talented basketball player in the world the past two weeks. And he didn’t get that much hate for possibly his worst playoff game of all time while toting that basketball around everywhere.
You sound hung up on the dude.
Getting hung up on perceptions of media narratives is hilarious. But you are a drake fan so I guess general perception is important to youI don't look at Kyrie as that. I believe he's one of the best 2nd options of all time. Never thought he could lead a team as a number 1 nowhere. I'm not hung up on Tatum, I'm more hung up on the dialogue around Tatum.
Is Tatum’s shot selection terrible/frustrating at times?Yes….Is he overrrated?No,he’s rated where he should be.He’s a top 5-7 player, people just have unrealistic expectations of him. 5 ECF & 2 finals appearances in 7 seasons is elite stuff,people gotta chill on him.
Getting hung up on perceptions of media narratives is hilarious. But you are a drake fan so I guess general perception is important to you![]()
I agree with a lot of that but he can and often is the C’s best offensive player.Bill Simmons stole my Tatum = John Havelcheik comparison.
but it's accurate.
Havelcheik was a top 5-7 player on a really good a deep team that won lots of championships.
but he only had like 1 top 5 MVP finish.
he wasn't as good as Jerry West, or Oscar or Kareem. he was a tier below. He was good to very good at everything at everything, but no one game breaking skill.
That's what Tatum is, he doesn't have a game breaking skill, if he could generate better shots consistently he would, but he can't because he's a tier below the super elite offensive weapons.
he could win 3 or 4 chips, it won't really change the perception of him. top 5-7 player. Future HOFer, but not MVP level player.
sure I agree, but like we all know he's not like Joker or Luka.I agree with a lot of that but he can and often is the C’s best offensive player.
There is no Tatum hate. He’s just overrated. And all season people were trying to put him in the MVP convo or best player debates all because of team record and “two way ability”.
Crazy. Maybe Horford is the Luka stopper lol
He’s more or less leading the team in the 5 major statistical categories in the playoffsA lot of the Tatum discourse is framed as Boston being so good that they win in spite of him (which is sometimes true) but they're as good as they are because of Tatum buying in. Sometimes a 16 point night while playing defense, grabbing boards, & making the right reads is all it takes.