THE OFFICIAL SAN JOSE SHARKS SEASON THREAD!! PLAYOFFS VS CHICAGO WCF series 0-1

Originally Posted by daprescription

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That's all he's good for.
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From a few pages earlier, I, too, would like to keep Monta around. He's not the type of player to build around, but he is a talented player who can be a2nd or 3rd option. I know I said 2nd option... relax dp
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. That's not the point, the point is that heisn't a 1st option. What really messed him up was playing for Nelson and taking away Baron Davis from him. The uncertainty of Monta's position (is he aSG or is he a PG) and the mind games that Nelson puts Monta through have a negative affect on him. Get rid of Nelson, then players will become more responsive.Nelson's a joke and I believe the players have him tuned out.

The article posted a few pages back where Nelson totally undermines Monta's leadership has got to be one of the worst coaching moves ever. I mean,didn't Nelson say that Monta would be taking on a leadership role in the beginning of the season? And then Monta gets the rug pulled out from under him byNelson? I mean, come on! What was the purpose of embarrassing him there in that situation? You call that coaching? What that a "coach-able moment" inDon Nelson's eyes?

I'm so tired of Nelson's bull-
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. I want this man gone immediately. I want new management.
 
Originally Posted by LazyJ10

Bring back TMurph for Beans.
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I would do it, Murph having a monster career in Indy.

Someone* tell me how we looked tonight, was at work all night.
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[h2]Game #10 (3-7): Cavaliers 114, Warriors 108[/h2]
By Marcus Thompson
Wednesday, November 18th, 2009 at 7:32 am in Uncategorized.

The Warriors clawed and scrapped and executed well enough for 45 minutes to have a chance to win. Considering they had just seven players, one new to the team, is that encouraging? Or does the fact they choked down the stretch, turning the ball over three times to kill their chances, override the fact that they were in the game?

Oddly enough, or not, it was Maggette, the 11-year veteran, who made two of the crucial turnovers. The other was a dribbling oops by Steph Curry, which led to a jump ball with LeBron James.

In the Warriors locker room, though, most of the focus was on the fact that they were in the game at all, which seemed to come as a surprise to the Warriors. They gave a spirited effort against a Cavs team that was sleep-walking and without Shaq.

Tonight, they have to do the same thing at Boston. But the Celtics have lost two straight and should be hungry.

"Did you have to remind me of that," Monta Ellis said jokingly.

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There was quite a bit of scuttle before the game about Monta Ellis wanting to leave, about the Warriors shopping him, about a meeting this week between Ellis' agent and Warriors' brass.

Here is the Warriors' response to all of the reports:

About the meeting …

* It has not been set, Riley said. There is no guarantee it will even happen. The way it was described to me, Jeff Fried (Monta's agent) called Larry Riley and said he was in town and wanted to meet. Fried is a co-promoter for Andre Ward and the Warriors are helping out with the PR. So Fried is in town and Riley accepted the meeting because he said it is routine to meet with his players' agents when they're in town. He met with Steph Curry's agent recently (which if I am correct is his father, Dell). He met with Bill Duffy, Anthony Randolph's agent. It is protocol.

It goes without saying that these meetings aren't just about catching up, as perhaps is implied. Certainly, Randolph and his people are unhappy with his role and his minutes. (To be sure, some members of the organization are a little befuddled that he's been reduced to the fourth-string center)

I'm told the Warriors are expecting some concerns to be raised by Fried, and they wouldn't be surprised if he asked them to trade Monta. This Ellis kid is most-certainly an issue.

ELLIS: "That was the first time I heard it, before the game. … I don't know what the meetings about."

"Like I said, I play for the Warriors. I just heard that tonight. That's my first time hearing it. Whatever they meeting about, they meeting about. I don't know what it is. It's a possibility we could be trying to move somebody in. Y'all think it's moving somebody out. I don't know what it is."

"I realize people gone talk. That's freedom of speech. They can say what they want to say. Like I said, I don't read the players so I won't let it get to me. I'm not feeding into it. If they talk, they talk."

About the shopping of Ellis …

* I am convinced, thanks to a few insiders, that the Warriors dangled Monta Ellis in trade talks. He is certainly not untouchable. But I'm told it's not because they want to get rid of Ellis specifically. He just happens to be perhaps their best asset. So in their quest to land a difference maker, he's on the table.

Now, a few in the organization are telling me that Monta needs to get his act together or he could be shipped. They certainly don't want him to become the next Stephen Jackson.

RILEY: "We're business as usual. Is Monta unhappy right now.? We're 3-6. So he's not a happy guy. There are a lot of guys in there that aren't. We've got a chance to resurrect things here and to push things in the right direction and that's got to be our focus. Would we trade somebody? Hell yes. We're 3-6 and I'd be stupid not to look at improving this team. Are we going to have a fire sale on somebody? No. We're not doing that. Are we always going to be looking at our roster? I sure am."

Ellis did say he has "no problems" with Nellie.

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LeBron James gave Stephen Curry a longer-than-usual talk after the game. It was clear from James' hand gestures that he was telling Curry to have tunnel vision. As one of the game's premier passers, safe to assume he wasn't talking about on the court.

CURRY: "He told me to just stay focused and keep getting better every day. Just block out whatever's going on outside of what I can control."

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Of everyone who saw action, Anthony Randolph got the fewest minutes. Fewer than Vladimir Radmanovic. Fewer than Mikki Moore. Something is just simply wrong with that.

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Morrow had a chance to tie the game at 109 with a 3-pointer with 2:20 left. He got a good look certainly. He had just made one less than a minute earlier, too.

With that, it still is somewhat befuddling the lack of shots he gets. He made 5 of 7 in the first half and was 6-for-10 in 35 minutes. Only Mikki Moore took fewer shots (5-for-6). Vlad had 12 shots in 34 minutes. Randolph had 11 in 25. Maggette had 16 in 32. Monta was 9-for-23 in 46 minutes.

It is no doubt partly Morrow's fault. He fakes himself out of so many shots. Part of it is because defenses knows who he is and are closing out hard. Part of it is because he's been working on creating off the dribble and that's the mode he's in often. But part of it, I think, is because he knows he's only getting a few looks, so he's got to make them, which means he needs to have an optimum look. I guess that's good for a Warriors squad who doesn't know what a bad shot looks like.

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Raja Bell is having surgery. They won't know how long he's out until they go in and see. If the tear of his ligament is slight, they will repair it and he will be out 4 or 5 weeks. If it is severely torn, they will repair it and he will have to be out 4 or 5 months.

The Warriors knew this. They would've done the trade even if they knew he was out.

RILEY: "I'm happy with the trade. I know what I went through. I know what the market was. And I like Raja Bell. If he can play, it's a plus for us. We will determine in the next few days what is going to happen with him."

Raja said he decided to have the surgery before he was traded. He said after playing Saturday against Portland, his fifth game playing with the torn ligament in his left wrist, he said he knew he couldn't go full bore, especially on defense, so he had told the trainers he was going to have the surgery. He will meet with an hand specialist in Charlotte area on Monday to schedule his surgery.

Being an expiring contract, Bell needs to play. It will be much tougher for him to earn a deal if he misses the entire season. So, certainly, he didn't take the decision lightly. I don't think he decided to have the surgery because he's on a bad team and doesn't want to be with the Warriors. But, I hardly know the guy so I could be wrong.

BELL: "My game requires me to be able to grab and push, the unsavory thing. "Those are the things that I think make teams want me. So it was weight heavy on my mind."

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Word out of Cleveland is that the Cavs were not happy Jackson went to Charlotte. They wanted him pretty bad. But they wanted too much.

The Cavs were offering Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak, who is a free agent and would've had to be signed and traded. Neither would've played. The Warriors do not want Delonte West and would have told him to stay home. They don't want to get rid of Jack and bring in another potential headache. And Szczerbiak isn't even healthy right now. Plus, the Cavaliers wanted a first-round pick, though they probably would've backed off if the Warriors pressed.

Problem is, the Warriors didn't need to press because of Charlotte's offer.
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I didn't see the game, but from everything I read, AR's first half was pretty atrocious....he some time later figured out how to play basketball in the2nd half...tonight will tell me a bit more about him.
 
Ellis Says He's Committed To Warriors


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Warriors guard Monta Ellis says thathe hadn't been informed about a meeting between the team and his agent.

"I've realized that people are going to talk," Ellis said. "With freedom of speech, they can say what they want to say, but I won'tlet it get to me and I'm not feeding into it. ...

"I've been saying since training camp, 'I'm a Warrior.' What else do you want me to do? They keep on printing (I might be traded), butI don't pay attention to it."

Agent Jeff Fried is expected to be in the Bay Area this week and will sit down with the Golden State organization.

"I don't know what the meeting is about," Ellis said. "Like I said, I play for the Warriors. Whatever they're meeting about,they're meeting about. There's a possibility that we're trying to move somebody in when you all think it's about trying to move somebodyout."

Warriors general manager Larry Riley said, "It's not out of the ordinary to meet with players' representatives."
 
i'd like it if he stayed but if he was moved for something worthy i wouldn't object to it. this could be his time.

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Originally Posted by LazyJ10

I didn't see the game, but from everything I read, AR's first half was pretty atrocious....he some time later figured out how to play basketball in the 2nd half...tonight will tell me a bit more about him.
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They said Raja Bell let him have it in the 2nd half. Not necessarily in a bad way, but it woke him up.
 
Originally Posted by daprescription

Originally Posted by LazyJ10

I didn't see the game, but from everything I read, AR's first half was pretty atrocious....he some time later figured out how to play basketball in the 2nd half...tonight will tell me a bit more about him.
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They said Raja Bell let him have it in the 2nd half. Not necessarily in a bad way, but it woke him up.
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It's a good thing the Warriors traded for someone that knows a thing about defense and passion. He can be quite annoying when he's playingagainst you, but maybe he's trying to turn Randolph into the next Diaw so he can get some open 3's to shoot when he's back. I wish they showed onTV when Bell talked to Randolph because the commentators like to exaggerate too much.
 
If I remember correctly, Fitzgerald just said something along the lines like "Guess who was talking to Randolph before the start of the quarter? RajaBell." I didn't get the impression that Raja was "letting him have it" or something like that, but whatever was said did get through toRandolph.
 
Fitz: You know who talked to Anthony Randolph before the start of the 4th, Raja Bell.
Barnett: Ah good.
Fitz: Got off the bench, went up and talked to him. He was pretty demonstrative in what he was telling him. And Randolph has come out on fire here in the 4thquarter.
Barnett - Well, someone needed to light a fire underneath him.
 
Raja Bell is definitely one of those guys you DESPISE when he's on the other team. I'm glad he's on ours though. Hope he's healthy enough toplay eventually because lord knows our team could use some type of defense.
 
Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt

Hey, it's Raja Bell.
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I thought he was done for the season, the hell? Dropped him from my team.

Raja Bell looks like Joe Smith out there...Maybe because they're both bald...
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