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Originally Posted by TCERDA
Wrong.Originally Posted by CP1708
TCERDA wrote:
.4 second shot by Derek Fisher to beat the Spurs in 04 and Dirk's and1 to send the game in OT in game 7 of the conference Finals. Those 2 plays literally cost the Spurs from winning 5 Championships in a row.I guess these two plays keep them out of Dynasty talk
While big plays and series changers, there is ZERO guarantee that the Spurs just go on winning. Sac won game 5 against us in 02, we won game 6 and 7. No reason we couldn't have done that to the Spurs in 04 if Fisher's shot missed.
And Wade shot 750 free throws a game vs the Mavs no defense playing team. We would still be watching the 2006 finals live with the amount of free throws Wade would get with Bruce Bowen and the Spurs playing him in 06.
So what you're saying is pointless as me saying that if Horry hits the 3 in game 5 in 03 we would have gone to 5 straight finals and won 4 of them etc etc etc.
Door swings both ways. Don't get carried away.
As for the actual topic at hand, Spurs, great franchise/run but not dynasty. They are not some team that simply can not be vanquished, every other year someone knocks them out. Usually us.
Originally Posted by CP1708
Me? No sir, I pay very little attention to Boxing. Used too when there were more boxers and bigger names, not so much anymore.
What I was saying is Bruce is more physical then Dallas by a zillion miles, ie he woulda had 11 fouls a game.
Well you have the same argument with the '94-'95 Bulls. Did that 2 year hiatus of missing the Finals take away from their "dynasty"?Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I know Im gonna ruffle some feathers in here, but since we are talking about Dynasties...............Didnt LA miss the playoffs in 2004-2005 and get knocked in the first round the following year? Since we are pretty much talking about the last decade, Dont those two crappy years the Lakers had count for something negative in this Conversation. IJS
Bulls didnt have Jordan. The Lakers still had kobe.Originally Posted by TCERDA
Well you have the same argument with the '94-'95 Bulls. Did that 2 year hiatus of missing the Finals take away from their "dynasty"?Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I know Im gonna ruffle some feathers in here, but since we are talking about Dynasties...............Didnt LA miss the playoffs in 2004-2005 and get knocked in the first round the following year? Since we are pretty much talking about the last decade, Dont those two crappy years the Lakers had count for something negative in this Conversation. IJS
the spurs are a dynasty even without repeating. but c'mon they werent going to win 5 in a rowTCERDA wrote:
.4 second shot by Derek Fisher to beat the Spurs in 04 and Dirk's and1 to send the game in OT in game 7 of the conference Finals. Those 2 plays literally cost the Spurs from winning 5 Championships in a row.I guess these two plays keep them out of Dynasty talk
TCERDA wrote:
I know Im gonna ruffle some feathers in here, but since we are talking about Dynasties...............Didnt LA miss the playoffs in 2004-2005 and get knocked in the first round the following year? Since we are pretty much talking about the last decade, Dont those two crappy years the Lakers had count for something negative in this Conversation. IJS
Well you have the same argument with the '94-'95 Bulls. Did that 2 year hiatus of missing the Finals take away from their "dynasty"?
Bulls didnt have Jordan. The Lakers still had kobe.
And Smush.......
What the Lakers did is unprecedented. We took a title team, tore it to SHREDS, fired everybody but Kobe, and of all people, Devan George and Luke Walton. () and then 9 new guys.
NINE.
3 years later, we were back in contention. Nobody does that. Nobody.
Same as Lebron, same with Shaq, it wasn't JUST Shaq leaving, it was Fox, Fish, Horry the year before, GP and Malone, Phil, EVERYBODY was kicked out, we started with Kobe, and 2 scrubs.
Bulls didnt have Jordan. The Lakers still had kobe.
Bulls didnt have Jordan. The Lakers still had kobe.Originally Posted by TCERDA
Well you have the same argument with the '94-'95 Bulls. Did that 2 year hiatus of missing the Finals take away from their "dynasty"?Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I know Im gonna ruffle some feathers in here, but since we are talking about Dynasties...............Didnt LA miss the playoffs in 2004-2005 and get knocked in the first round the following year? Since we are pretty much talking about the last decade, Dont those two crappy years the Lakers had count for something negative in this Conversation. IJS
Originally Posted by TonyReali
Honestly I don't think San Antonio is a dynsasty, a great team during the past decade, but not a dynasty.
So, what are you trying say? That '99 chip didn't mean anything, that an asterisk should be placed beside the year. From what I saw, every team was battling through the playoffs, every team had to play the same number of games and if the Knicks would have won it, that asterisk WOULDN'T be a topic of discussion. The fact that the Spurs won another 3 titles discounts that fact. It wasn't a fluke. A fluke was the Miami v. Dallas finalsOriginally Posted by MR J 858
Spurs were a dynasty but don't get it twisted.
The Spurs 4 championships is not better than the 3peat Lakers last decade who made it to the Finals 4 out of 5 years. Also the Lakers 2000-2001 title where they went 15-1 in the playoffs puts the Lakers 3 peat dynasty better than the Spurs dynasty.
Also Spurs fan & Laker haters hate hearing this but you can't change the facts that the Spurs 1999 championship came in a strike shortened season.
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
The spurs are the best run organization in basketball period, it's not even a question, they are the model by which all should be defined about how to run an effective basketball organization.
They play in San Antonio, it's not like LA where the market instantly attract free agents no matter how bad the team is.
Originally Posted by T21D
So, what are you trying say? That '99 chip didn't mean anything, that an asterisk should be placed beside the year. From what I saw, every team was battling through the playoffs, every team had to play the same number of games and if the Knicks would have won it, that asterisk WOULDN'T be a topic of discussion. The fact that the Spurs won another 3 titles discounts that fact. It wasn't a fluke. A fluke was the Miami v. Dallas finalsOriginally Posted by MR J 858
Spurs were a dynasty but don't get it twisted.
The Spurs 4 championships is not better than the 3peat Lakers last decade who made it to the Finals 4 out of 5 years. Also the Lakers 2000-2001 title where they went 15-1 in the playoffs puts the Lakers 3 peat dynasty better than the Spurs dynasty.
Also Spurs fan & Laker haters hate hearing this but you can't change the facts that the Spurs 1999 championship came in a strike shortened season..
Whoa, whoa, whoa... let's not get carried away.Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
DipsetGeneral:
The Spurs have the most championships than any other club of the last decade.
How are they not a dynasty OP?
Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
DipsetGeneral wrote:
The Spurs have the most championships than any other club of the last decade.
Originally Posted by DsLee559
This really has nothing to do with the Spurs, but this thread just reminded me that Phil Jackson won ALL of his championships within TWO decades.