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Because you said it to a Black man objecting to racism.

Kind of an important detail to leave out.

Him trolling me with a specific name call you forbid him to use and then him acting as if I antagonized him first is one detail you seem to forget in all this, remember? It’s the reason why you banned him from this thread in the first place. You’re upset I said he was playing victim (often said on nt) but like to ignore that Trump-esque name calling he said to me many times right before I said it.

Race had nothing to do with it what I said nor was there any malice on my part.
 
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Now that you are here, are there plans to have more NT fitted caps?
We attempted to do so last year, but our order, like many production orders placed just prior to the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, was not fulfilled.

We’ve shifted our focus to domestically manufactured products for the time being. I can’t promise new hats this year unless we switch brands, but we are hoping to release some new items to raise more money for charity this fall. I appreciate your interest and support!

Him trolling me with a specific name call you forbid him to use and then him acting as if antagonized him first is one detail you seem to forget in all this. Race had nothing to do with it nor was there any malice on my part.
No, I have not forgotten that I told you that privately, in the context of explaining to both you and Khufu why your respective comments were offensive - not only to each other, but broadly offensive and wholly inappropriate for our community.

I also asked you both at the time to disengage and stop antagonizing each other.

Khufu pledged to ignore you.

And yet, here you are continuing to engage in petty name calling against him - in violation of both our rules and your own word - and alleging favoritism, without irony, in a thread from which he has been permanently banned and you have not.

Both of you should be ashamed of the offensive comments you posted. Khufu stopped doubling down, antagonizing you, and blaming you for the harm caused by his statement.

Can you say the same?

Until you can, the double standard you should be focusing on is the one you’re applying to yourself.

Your words caused harm, too, whether you intended for them to not - and yet all you seem to care about is yourself.

Think about how you felt each time he’d make excuses to rationalize what you knew to be an offensive comment. You didn’t think you were “playing the victim” by objecting to that comment, do you? You don’t think it’s right for anyone to dismissively urge you to “get over it,” or to call you “Karen” for reporting a post. Stop acting like a hypocrite.

If you think you’re somehow better than or different from him: prove it. Accept responsibility for your mistakes and stop repeating them. If you’re above a petty Internet grudge, act like it. When’s the last time he mentioned you? When’s the last time he called you a name? You haven’t even gone 48 hours since insulting him.

Pull yourself together and be the person you think you are.
 
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He’s concerned over insults...
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Why does he do it?
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Oh, he dislikes “Karen”...unless he’s saying it to someone else. Me being an ex mod/admin on that site is just a coincidence huh.
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Just tell him to keep it cool and maybe stop @ing other nter’s to engage with him when he knows he’s not going to get a response.

I’m sleepy now but rest assured your words about me trying to be better is not on deaf ears and I genuinely appreciate your advice. For real, I mean that.
 
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We attempted to do so last year, but our order, like many production orders placed just prior to the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, was not fulfilled.

We’ve shifted our focus to domestically manufactured products for the time being. I can’t promise new hats this year unless we switch brands, but we are hoping to release some new items to raise more money for charity this fall. I appreciate your interest and support!
Switch brands!? If it's not New Era, it's an automatic pass for me.
 
That’s too much reading for a Friday Morning

I wonder of Meth sleeps sometimes. I still believe he got upgraded to some AI a few years ago.
 
Switch brands!? If it's not New Era, it's an automatic pass for me.
That's what I assumed - and that's why we don't have new hats in the works at present. If our order from last year can go through, great, but we're focused on products that are more within our control for the time being. (T-shirts, stickers, etc.)

Him trolling me with a specific name call you forbid him to use and then him acting as if I antagonized him first is one detail you seem to forget in all this, remember? It’s the reason why you banned him from this thread in the first place. You’re upset I said he was playing victim (often said on nt) but like to ignore that Trump-esque name calling he said to me many times right before I said it.
How did I "ignore it" when I addressed it in the very message you're alluding to and banned him from this thread?

Since you insist on airing this out in public - I'll go ahead and share the message you're referring to here so that you can't continue to misrepresent it:

Hello,


Recently, it seems like any thread containing both of you has become repeatedly side-tracked - and I find that especially disrespectful to our community in the thread dedicated to George Floyd.

There have been several statements exchanged here that do not pass the Tucker Carlson test. It should go without saying that anything that would not seem out of place on his White Power Hour is grossly out of place on NikeTalk.


Turbo Uno: you have repeatedly made posts that appear to minimize or dismiss racism. Using language like "playing the victim" serves to trivialize racism. Enter the phrase "playing the victim" or "victim mentality" into a search engine. What do you see? That's what springs to mind when you use that phrase. Now, how do you think that plays in the George Floyd thread? Could you possibly have chosen a more offensive venue for that?


Khufu: here's the direct link to the post Turbo Uno keeps bringing up. It is currently visible so that you're able to see it: https://niketalk.com/threads/the-thread-about-nothing.329154/post-32951075 You can confirm that the wording is,
"I know that some filthy food truck eating bottom feeder isn’t talking about me...good thing I have the trash on ignore."
You've since told me that you didn't know that Turbo Uno is Latinx at the time of that post. Knowing that, this is not content that you, as someone opposed to White Supremacism and its component stereotypes, should stand behind. Simply calling someone a "bottom feeder," period, constitutes an insult and is against NikeTalk rules.


Ideally, both of you should be big enough to admit and learn from your mistakes. It remains to be seen who will live up to their stated values in this regard, and who will disappoint.

In any event, I can't have this situation continue to disrupt every thread in which the two of you are present - and nowhere is that more unacceptable right now than the George Floyd thread.
Continuing to violate our rules and distract from that essential discussion with a petty personal grudge is less an expression of disrespect towards each other than an expression of disrespect for our community.



Peace.

As is obvious, I in no way ignored his comments. Also clear in the full message is the context in which I criticized your use of the phrase "playing the victim." You directed it at a Black man discussing racism in the George Floyd thread.
So what's really getting ignored here: Khufu's comments, or yours?


Race had nothing to do with it what I said nor was there any malice on my part.
He said almost the exact same thing in defense of his post.

You want me to accept that excuse for you and reject it for him. The truth is, we should be less concerned with "intent" than effect. If you stand on someone's foot by accident, but you're unwilling to apologize or change your behavior afterward, you might as well have done it intentionally. If your goal was to avoid causing harm, then the harm is what should concern you - not your intentions.

So far, you've demonstrated absolutely zero contrition for using a loaded phrase like "playing the victim" in the George Floyd thread.

Whatever your initial intent, if your attitude now is "I don't care if that offends you," then you can't continue to claim innocence.


As shown above, I did not allow Khufu to use "race had nothing to do with it" as an excuse.
You want to be treated differently, then have the nerve to accuse me of preferential treatment when I refuse.


Methodical Management Methodical Management ,

He’s concerned over insults...
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Why does he do it?
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Oh, he dislikes “Karen”...unless he’s saying it to someone else. Me being an ex mod/admin on that site is just a coincidence huh.
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Just tell him to keep it cool and maybe stop @ing other nter’s to engage with him when he knows he’s not going to get a response.

I’m sleepy now but rest assured your words about me trying to be better is not on deaf ears and I genuinely appreciate your advice. For real, I mean that.
You're only further proving my point by engaging in the exact same behaviors you think I should ban him for. This is blatant hypocrisy.

If you say you're above it, act like it.

You're asking me to "tell him to keep it cool" while complaining - two months after the fact - about the message I sent both of you requesting exactly that. You think he should stop "@ing other nter’s to engage with him when he knows he’s not going to get a response", and here you are bravely insulting him within a thread he cannot reply to.

Is this bad behavior or not? Is it this who you are or isn't it?

This feud between you and Khufu is petty and sad. It should be beneath both of you, and I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of seeing threads like this one getting dragged into it.

You don't like him? Ignore him, as he promised to ignore you. Give us all a break.


Similarly, if you have a problem with me, my inbox is open. This may be called the "thread about nothing," but just about anything is better than you bogging it down with your personal grievances.
Stop making this TAN's problem.
 
He just said that i was giving off a vibe that there was something unspoken which made him think I had an issue with him. So he decided to cut me off.

It doesn't make sense. Being the eldest out of the cousins, I wouldn't do that to either one of my cousins and I never had any ill will towards him.

I don't even know which facetime call he's referring too!.

His brother thinks he's just being super sensitive and it's normal for him to overreact. Idk, I'm just shocked.

Seems like you are leaving out some key chunks of the story. There has to be some backstory/history that made him assume whatever he aasumed.
 
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