The Ultimate Football Thread 2013-2014 Vol. 4 EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A etc

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That heart thing is one of the corniest celebrations of all time.

I don't think people are calling Bale a future flop because he's trash. They're calling him that because of how much Real paid to get him. It's like if you bought a Aventador but it performed like a Mustang. Still a good car at the end of the day but nowhere near the price you paid for it
 
Everton manager Roberto Martinez says Premier League feeder clubs can help England national team
Everton manager Roberto Martínez says the introduction of ‘feeder clubs’ in the lower leagues would help solve the crisis currently affecting the development of English players.
Roberto Martìnez believes lower league feeder clubs can help develop English players

By Chris Bascombe10:30PM BST 12 Sep 2013 Comments4 Comments
Martínez argues the greatest problem afflicting English football is the ‘void’ between the ages of 19-23, when players stall in the reserves or become distracted by the fame and wealth of being Premier League squad players.
Rather than support the view coaching and facilities in countries such as Spain are causing the gulf in international class, Martínez suggests it is the structure of the competition for young players that is England’s biggest failing.
His radical solution is for Premier League teams to form the bulk of the squad for neighbouring lower league clubs.
“We need to develop our youngsters as well as we can and unfortunately now from the age of 19 to 23 we’re not doing that,” said Martínez.
“We’ve created a void in that age group. The games programme is not good enough, in terms of reserve team football. In the under-21s you don’t learn to get promoted or to get relegated, you don’t learn that you can cost yourself something and can even cost people jobs; it’s not a real environment.
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"The under-21 league has improved from where we were three years ago but the reality is youngsters at 18, 19, 20 aren’t getting the education that they would get in France or Spain or Italy. That’s the truth.
“Everyone speaks about Spain, about how they develop players and they’ll tell you whatever they want, that it’s been a programme of 10 to 15 years and so on. I don’t want to use strong words but that’s rubbish.
“They’ve got a programme that develops men at the age of 18 to 21. Up to the age of 18 we [England] are the best in the world, but then they become over-protected.
“The under-18s have got the same facilities as the first team, the same support team and everything. It’s too much. It’s good to have things, don’t get me wrong, but if we’ve got such a fantastic set up to the age of 18 why are we looking away at the ages of 18 to 21?
“I’m actively working with the Premier League, with Ged Roddy [director of youth at the Premier League], and we are all trying to help. I don’t think B-teams will ever happen in our game as in Spain because the lower leagues in this country are the best in the world so we shouldn’t lose that.
“But you could have feeder teams. Accrington, for example, could have 10 players from Everton. Financially there are many teams in League Two and League One who are having problems and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for them to have 10 players from one club.
“Can you imagine playing at championship level with your group, in your environment, but having to win games, try to get promotion and avoid relegation? You know what it means to play against men. That’s what you develop — mentally, psychologically and in every aspect of the game — but we haven’t got that here.
"We make them professional at 18 and no one should be ready to be professional at 18. We are wrong.”
Martínez says the contrast between teenage loan signing Gerard Deulofeu, who joined from Barcelona, and those of similar age who have come from English academies highlights the difference.
“Deulofeu is a man football-wise because he’s been playing Championship football,” said Martínez.
“He’s scored 18 goals at Championship level and the experiences you have to go through internally to be able to score goals against men makes a big difference.”
 
Did Real play well at least?

Relatively speaking yes. One should take into context international duties & Ancelotti trying to figure out how he's going to get the most out of the enormous amount of talent he has on his side. Not sure he's got the right combo yet. You also have to give credit to Villarreal. They came out to play today. I swear I cringe whenever people say La Liga is a 2 team league because each one of those sides play RM & Barca so tough. I'd take watching La Liga games 10 out of 10 times over the Prem.

edit -forgot to mention Lopez did a hell of a job manning the sticks. The game would've been a loss & the score a lot worse for Los Blancos had it not been for Diego.
 
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Return to United? To play under Moyes?

Ronaldo's return died the day SAF announced his retirement.
 
The illustrious connections of Barcelona and Ajax
Published: Sunday 15 September 2013, 12.36CET
FC Barcelona may be facing AFC Ajax for the first time in Wednesday's UEFA Champion League Group H opener, but the two European powers share plenty of common ground.
by Berend Scholten
from Amsterdam




It is hard to believe that when FC Barcelona host AFC Ajax in Wednesday's UEFA Champion League Group H curtain-raiser, it will be the first meeting between two clubs with a rich history in European competition.


They have plenty of shared connections though, especially in the legendary figure of Johan Cruyff, who swapped Ajax for Barcelona in 1973 after claiming three straight European Champion Clubs' Cups during nine trophy-laden years in Amsterdam. He soon became the darling of the Camp Nou, hitting 48 goals in 143 games and helping the Blaugrana clinch their first Spanish title in 14 years in 1974.

A three-time winner of the Ballon d'Or, Cruyff turned his hand to coaching and took over at Ajax in 1985 where he lifted the European Cup Winners' Cup. Another old flame beckoned three years later as he returned to Barcelona, steering them to their maiden European Cup in 1992, with ex-Ajax defender Ronald Koeman netting the winner against UC Sampdoria in the Wembley showpiece.

Barça collected four consecutive Liga championships under Cruyff between 1991 and 1994 – during which time midfielder Richard Witschge and Cruyff's son Jordi brought an extra Dutch flavour to Catalonia.

Louis van Gaal, a UEFA Champions League winner as Ajax boss in 1995, took the reins from Sir Bobby Robson in 1997. A strong influx of his compatriots – including Winston Bogarde, Michael Reiziger, Patrick Kluivert, Marc Overmars and the De Boer twins – subsequently helped Barcelona to two Spanish titles and UEFA Super Cup success in 1997.

Former Netherlands centre-back Frank Rijkaard, who finished his playing days with Ajax, became the next Dutchman to fill the Camp Nou hot seat in 2003. Edgar Davids arrived on loan from Juventus the following campaign before Barcelona captured European club football's most prized trophy in 2006. More recently, defender Maxwell and forward Zlatan Ibrahimović have made the switch from Ajax, yet only a handful of players have headed in the opposite direction.

Michael Laudrup linked up with Ajax for the 1997/98 season, three years after leaving Barcelona. Midfielder Roger García also played out his career at the Amsterdam ArenA, as did versatile defender Oleguer Presas. Last term, loanee Isaac Cuenca reinforced Frank de Boer's team and he was joined in July by latest recruit Bojan Krkić, who burst onto the Barcelona scene as a teenager in 2007.

Meanwhile, the only man to have played for and coached both sides, Johan Cruyff, is savouring a historic occasion. "It is great for football that these teams are playing. Barcelona are a great side and play nice football. Ajax are eager to do the same, but Barcelona have more experience. The clubs share a nice history," he said.
 
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Group of death!

@AFCAcademy Arsenal are looking at Inter Milan’s and Denmark U21’s 19 year old DM Patrick Olsen. Will make a decision by January.
@samuelj29060 Mario Gómez ruled out for 2 months with knee injury. Blow for Fiorentina & Germany
 
I picked Dortmund and Napoli to advance before the Mes signing.

Ozil won't be able to stop those waves of BVB attacks...nor will he be able to stop Pipita and co...

And I rate Ozil EXTREMELY high...but he can't solve the defence issues in the back, and as we can see, Arsenal's bench is about as thin as a piece of paper.
 
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