THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

Which team is most overrated? (Pick two)

  • Clippers

  • Celtics

  • Seventy Sixers

  • Bucks

  • Rockets

  • Nuggets

  • Jazz

  • Nets

  • Warriors

  • Pacers


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Daryl Morey on another press run about that time he almost beat the warriors

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If Portland decides its time to move on from the Dame/CJ duo, I could see them looking at Blake. But they’re probably still hoping to add a piece without giving up CJ.
 
I mean Pop kept making the playoffs still after all those stars aged out and left...It's a bit to early to call out his coaching after his squad struggled through a month of the season

I'm not saying that pop isn't a legend and a great coach, and i'm not basing it it solely off this season. But for years people tried to put pop up against other coaches and act as if he didn't need superstars to have success.

Put all that mystique around him & his "system" and it turns out that just like everyone else his "system" ain't gonna produce nothing but mid if he doesn't have exceptional players.

But for yearssss we had to hear how Phil & Riley etc etc were overated because they had superstar players.
 
Where the Sixers messed up was ending the Fultz situation without a legit long term option...They been trying to stop gap the PG/primary ball handler spot with Ben or random free agents and that limits their ceiling
 
Wait, what generational talent did Pop have last season? :lol:

I wouldn’t shovel dirt on the Spurs yet. I think after 20+ straight winning seasons you’re allowed one bad season. This is such a ridiculous take :lol:

they went 48-34 and lost in the first round to a team full of inexperienced young players......... which = EL MID
 
I'm not saying that pop isn't a legend and a great coach, and i'm not basing it it solely off this season. But for years people tried to put pop up against other coaches and act as if he didn't need superstars to have success.

Put all that mystique around him & his "system" and it turns out that just like everyone else his "system" ain't gonna produce nothing but mid if he doesn't have exceptional players.

But for yearssss we had to hear how Phil & Riley etc etc were overated because they had superstar players.
He just made the playoffs and had the series competitive last year with less talent than he has now :lol: ...The Spurs currently suck no doubt, but it aint time to call em out yet

Nobody would be surprised if they somehow went on a lil streak to creep back into playoff contention again by the All Star Break, Pop and that organization earned that benefit of the doubt
 
No coach in the NBA wins **** without great players.

It's never happened. It never will happen. Game's about players. Period.


Tell that to the people who consistently told me about pops system & bashed his peers because they coached generational talents :lol:
 
We have seen Pop develop guys who were under the radar/not on anybody's radar to becoming allstars/HOF'ers. I don't think this season is a mark on his coaching. You do need some talent and they are lacking.

He did **** up that situation with Kawhi though. They should be in a much better position right now. He don't get enough criticism for that
 
I’m not calling out Pop but the spurs are indeed Mid. Losing to a young team in a playoff series is usually a sign of it being over.
 
Lol this is so stupid. Not only is this a clear evaluation based on this season alone.... Outside of the raw results, we've seen Pop change offensive and defensive schemes NUMEROUS times during his season. Last season alone the Spurs had the worst shot distribution in the and he leaned into that and created a top tier offense around it.

The real issue is the roster. There are not a lot of solid permutations of players that can make this go. Patty Mills and Rudy Gay are the two best players on the team. But yeah Pop is mid. That makes sense.

The roster is terrible and Pop & RC blew the Kawhi trade. That is why we are why we are more than anything else.
 
Things i've learned on NT

1) Winning is overrated
2) Never review a coach based off results

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Seeing as how those are both my takes..... Basketball more so than any other sport leans on the results as the end all be all and it's not that. Hence why winning is over rated

Results based evaluations of things are inherently flawed because only the product matters. This is ESPECIALLY true of coaching where we as fans and even the media see at most 10% of what a coach does. We see lineups, in game adjustments, and win loss... That's it. Coaching a basketball team is drastically more involved than that and the bulk of the things that go into that never are seen by anyone not in that org.

Didn't say the results shouldn't be factored but doing what you just did was flawed. You can die on this hill though couldn't care less.

Tell me where I'm wrong.
 
Things i've learned on NT

1) Winning is overrated
2) Never review a coach based off results

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Trust me I hate the Spurs but Pop's resume is too long, he's evolved too much for me to look at him side eye now. Can't name another coach who has adjusted his system, changed with the times and have success.

They trippin with that winning is overrated thing though. :lol
 
Football is trash but one thing it does a good job of is giving proper credit to people and teams who didn't win anything. It's mostly because football as accepted the "Any Given Sunday" mantra as gospel which is conceding to the randomness but it allows for people to get proper credit.

Basketball to my knowledge moreso than any other sport I've come across cares more about winning than anything else. Everything else is a very distant second, and personally it makes a lot of judgement askew when looking through that lense.

Winning is over rated.
 
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