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Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race
I don't know how it all broke down if different tribes turned into races or not. How many races are there any way?




According to the American Government 4

Asian
Native American

Latino
African American
 
Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

I don't understand why this is an argument. What's the significance of it originating in Europe, besides the obvious?


The point is the same individuals who created it, now state their is no such thing

Ironic
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race

Okay maybe whites did create it,

but I still believe the human species would have created race even w/o whites.
 
Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race
I don't know how it all broke down if different tribes turned into races or not. How many races are there any way?




You see the general ignorance that exists on the subject of race...how can we progress as human beingd if we don't even know why or how we classifyourselves into different groups.

The word "tribe" has also been used as a tool of white superiorty BTW. A true tribe "refer to societies organized largely on the basis ofkinship, especially corporate descent groups". Such as tribes of Isreal.

Again with European imperialism and conquest a legitimate civilization and ethnicity, such as the Zulu (millions strong) were relegated to the status of"tribes". Tribal and racial conflicts began devloping amongst groups, which previously shared a unified identity.
 
Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

I don't understand why this is an argument. What's the significance of it originating in Europe, besides the obvious?


The point is the same individuals who created it, now state their is no such thing

Ironic


Right. All of these people in this thread arguing against it were the creators of race.

I think you might be wrong on that one. I'd reconsider.
 
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race

Okay maybe whites did create it,

but I still believe the human species would have created race even w/o whites.



Why didn't they create it in the hundredsof thousands of years prior to European colonialism then?
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by OGbobbyjohnson773

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV


Whites invented race....don't get ethered...AGAIN.


Explain this please.


Race was in a sense invented by Whites

Before there was white there was nationalism. Italian v German, Spanish V Ottomans Ect.....


Than in America there were Poor whites Vs. Elite

When Slaves came it was White Vs All

How do you get millions of Southern Confederates to fight for slavery, when they don't have slaves themselves?

Invent Race


That is how Race was invented.

Why is that so hard to grasp?
 
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race

Okay maybe whites did create it,

but I still believe the human species would have created race even w/o whites.


Why didn't they create it in the hundredsof thousands of years prior to European colonialism then?



Because they are good and whites are evil. /thread.

The undertones here are ridiculous.
 
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race

Okay maybe whites did create it,

but I still believe the human species would have created race even w/o whites.


Why didn't they create it in the hundredsof thousands of years prior to European colonialism then?



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Like I said earlier, the idea/concept of race was always prevalent.

Maybe the Europeans perfected the idea of race...

But do you HONESTLY believe no one thought of the same concepts of race that we believe in today prior to European influence?

Honestly?

You're smarter than that.
 
Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

I don't understand why this is an argument. What's the significance of it originating in Europe, besides the obvious?


The point is the same individuals who created it, now state their is no such thing

Ironic


Right. All of these people in this thread arguing against it were the creators of race.

I think you might be wrong on that one. I'd reconsider.

No one is saying that you literally created the concept of race you peon
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People are trying to show that the concept of race and racism is inherently European and that is a fact.

Your life has been inextricably shaped by the classification of you being "white"...you are quick to accept all of the privilege but none of thenegative connotation, including the invention of race.

I'm not saying that you should walk around sullen and guilty for something that people who were probably unrelated to you did centuries ago....but youchoose to identify yourself with these classifications...you may show pride in the accomplishments of fellow Americans, of our systems of democracy orlaw...you will share in the residual identity and remembrance of all things positive....but run away from anything negative like the plague.

That is the basis of White supremacy and racism and that is exactly what is going on in this thread.

If everyone can share the blame for racism....then your "race" gets to remain above the fray and you can disassociate yourself from theconversation because "you're not racist".
 
Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by OGbobbyjohnson773

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV


Whites invented race....don't get ethered...AGAIN.


Explain this please.


Race was in a sense invented by Whites

Before there was white there was nationalism. Italian v German, Spanish V Ottomans Ect.....


Than in America there were Poor whites Vs. Elite

When Slaves came it was White Vs All

How do you get millions of Southern Confederates to fight for slavery, when they don't have slaves themselves?

Invent Race


That is how Race was invented.

Why is that so hard to grasp?


No one can address this huh?
 
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by kix4kix

So who invented race? I didn't know that a person invented race I thought it just existed. If you look in the bible it goes back to the beginning of man there were jews and non jews(gentiles) so there were essentially two races. I think you are wrong on this one.


Again: TRIBAL, not Racial

Gentiles referred to tribes outside the 12 tribes of Isreal

Division has existed as long as humans have. I am not debating that.

Race being implemented in the division is a "white" invention meaning that yes Whites invented race

Okay maybe whites did create it,

but I still believe the human species would have created race even w/o whites.


Why didn't they create it in the hundredsof thousands of years prior to European colonialism then?


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Like I said earlier, the idea/concept of race was always prevalent.

Maybe the Europeans perfected the idea of race...

But do you HONESTLY believe no one thought of the same concepts of race that we believe in today prior to European influence?

Honestly?

You're smarter than that.


No fam...do some reading on the subject.

I bet you don't even know what the various classifications of race are and who is included.

Race is a false science that was developed and spread by Europeans.

People did not view the world or each other in that light prior to Europeans involvement.

People didn't fight or hate each other because their eye color was different, their hair texture was different of their skin color was different...theyfought because they needed to secure territory or resources.
 
Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by OGbobbyjohnson773

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV


Whites invented race....don't get ethered...AGAIN.


Explain this please.


Race was in a sense invented by Whites

Before there was white there was nationalism. Italian v German, Spanish V Ottomans Ect.....


Than in America there were Poor whites Vs. Elite

When Slaves came it was White Vs All

How do you get millions of Southern Confederates to fight for slavery, when they don't have slaves themselves?

Invent Race


That is how Race was invented.

Why is that so hard to grasp?


No one can address this huh?

Europeans created the term "race", and SOME of the concepts that go with it.

But most of the concepts of race? Was prevalent before European imperalism.


People, RACE is a word...

Thats all it is...

The concepts that are associated with race were prevalent long before European imperalism and colonizations.

Ancient civilizations had some very similiar concepts.
 
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

I don't understand why this is an argument. What's the significance of it originating in Europe, besides the obvious?


The point is the same individuals who created it, now state their is no such thing

Ironic


Right. All of these people in this thread arguing against it were the creators of race.

I think you might be wrong on that one. I'd reconsider.

No one is saying that you literally created the concept of race you peon
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People are trying to show that the concept of race and racism is inherently European and that is a fact.

Your life has been inextricably shaped by the classification of you being "white"...you are quick to accept all of the privilege but none of the negative connotation, including the invention of race.

I'm not saying that you should walk around sullen and guilty for something that people who were probably unrelated to you did centuries ago....but you choose to identify yourself with these classifications...you may show pride in the accomplishments of fellow Americans, of our systems of democracy or law...you will share in the residual identity and remembrance of all things positive....but run away from anything negative like the plague.

That is the basis of White supremacy and racism and that is exactly what is going on in this thread.

If everyone can share the blame for racism....then your "race" gets to remain above the fray and you can disassociate yourself from the conversation because "you're not racist".


Peon? Weak my man, try again.

Several people in this thread have CLEARLY stated that whites should feel guilty for the creation of race. I disagreed. Don't act as though I misunderstoodwhat was being said.
 
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by BigSean

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen


BigSean wrote:

Read Darwin
Read.


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Darwin too thick huh?
Stick to Wikipedia
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Good one.

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You speak of Darwin as if it wasn't taught/assigned in like 10th grade.
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His views on race weren't
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Perhaps you know them?

No worries Ill wait for your Wiki quote
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i thought people already knew race was a social construct heavily perpetuated by Anglos in the African/Caribbean Slave Trade...

you dudes REALLY need to pick up a book....like SERIOUSLY
 
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