Thread about Jesus - Questions, Bible Verses and Prayer Requests

I have no idea what you mean by 'my ppl', but if you're talking about Christians, my response is this: Just because you're not aware of it doesn't make it false.

Whenever you're ready to ask w/ an open mind how your religion does in fact denigrate women, we're ready to answer, bro.

For real.

If you meant something else by 'my ppl', then nevermind this response. 
I'm born christian soon and live orthodox so I mean my ppl by the ethnicity of my ppl who majority follow this certain orthodox religion
I pm"d op and
Op just flat out told me my religion is an attempt to bribe god and all religion is but he's christian.. Is that not a religion? Is he saying he's bribing god?? I don't understand how someone with similar beliefs telling me my religion is an.attempt to bribe god..I was with him.up until that point
 
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Respect to OP, he is going toe to toe with the whole team atheist camp on NT, thats bold in and of itself
Op dodging questions like Arian Foster.  
I'm saying, it's easy to go toe-to-toe when you answer like a politician.

"What is the Pythagorean Theorem?"

"The answer to everything is contained in his word ."

"What about creation? Dinosaurs?"

"If you read his word w/ the knowledge of his truth in your heart, you will find whatever answers you seek."

"Are we in the end times?"

"Revelation has laid out the details of the rapture, and if you read it, you will find the answer yourself."

Like, what was the point of creating a thread containing the phrase "Honest answers for all" if the answer is simply going to be "Read the bible"?
 
I'm down with the Christ man, look at my Avy.

All I'm saying is this, so if things were translated to make it easier to understand in English, how do we know what else was changed? Just to make sure it was a smooth translation shouldn't we look at the people who put together the KJV ?

When you do that you'll see they're some of the most corrupt and filthy people to walk the planet. So who knows what else they changed and manipulated.

Either way the KJV has a corrupt source. Does it not say in the bible that no corrupt tree can produce a good fruit?

Thus how is the KJV a good fruit if produced from a bad tree?
The Word of the Lord remains the

same throughout the ages.

Theres a reason the books like the 

Apocrypha didn't sneak their way into 

the Bible.

Its because whether we 

believe it or not God never changes,

neither does his Word.

We are all sinners

even was one Saul of Tarsus,

God can change 

the anyones heart in the blink

of an eye with his revelation.

Yes it does.

KJV still stands today and has

brought many to the Truth of

Christ.
 
 
 
Thank the Lord for sure.
I would've stopped halfway by now.
Lol ain't that the truth.

I sincerely hope some of you that have legit questions are really taking this in or at least appreciate that your questions are being answered.
Not ONE of my questions have been answered.

Not one.

I asked about how prayer works for one person in one situation that he was happy about, but doesn't work for that same person other times, or doesn't work for other upstanding prayer warriors.

Nothing. "I don't know, man. I don't have it all figured out."

Credentials were asked about; I presented mine.

Nothing. No response. In fact, it was at this point that the comment was made that it's sad that an admin is being so disrespectful.

I asked about the exact title of the thread: Jesus Christ. My first response in the thread was a question of why we can't go to Jesus' grave.

Nothing. No response.

I asked about the god concept as it pertains to children being blown up, and the whole dilemma of a supreme being having control but choosing not to intervene... or not having complete control... or not being as caring as he is given credit for.

Nothing.

So no, it's not a matter of "You guys are getting responses. You just don't like them."

I mean, yes, some people are getting responses like "Just trust in the Lord. The Bible has everything you need. Turning away from his word is folly."

That's fine, but we're asking specific questions. So, like one of my specific questions: prayer being a selective solution. Do you think that there is there a specific verse in the bible that answers this question, SPECIFICALLY?
@DarthSka  I find it interesting you were a pastor and ended up going away from it. Maybe it's too personal, but what made you turn away from it. That seems so drastic. Pastor to a non-believer. 

Also do you not believe in God or just religion? I differentiate the two for some reason. May not be too rationale, but I do. 

I'll be the first to admit, I don't believe in religion at all. At least in my opinion each religion is man made. There's just too much coincidences and discrepancies not to think all these religions are man made. Plus if god wanted us to believe or follow one religion, why would he send his message to specific areas and not the entire world? Why is the message of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all from one specific point in the world. Wouldn't he send his message to others around the world or are they not worthy? What about individuals west and east of present day Middle East?  It's no coincidence that the three Abrahamic religions originated in the same area. They all took from previous stories and altered/changed it to what they thought was best. It's no coincidence areas away from the middle east have different religious customs like in present day India, China, East Asia, (North and South America too if it weren't for colonization), etc. 

Can ANYONE answer these main points/questions that I always have about religion. Some people have tried and I appreciate it, but I never got substantial evidence for this. 1) Why do you follow ONE specific religion? Why do you think it's the right one? I've heard people say because Jesus is the only way to know god, or the Quran has never been changed, etc etc, but how do you know any of this? Do you follow a specific religion because that's what you grew up under? So if you follow one religion you are basically saying the others are illegitimate. I know everyone wants to be PC, but in my mind by following one religion you are discarding the others. I really don't see that as acceptance. There's already SO many damn divisions within people and it's sickening, so I don't like religion being another one. AND 2) Why does it make sense to you that a supreme being would send his message to one specific area and not all other areas? How does it make sense that a good person is immediately damned if he or she doesn't follow your specific religious text? Oh and another thing any comments on the old fashioned topics of acceptance of slavery being in the Bible, Quran, etc, how Noah's Ark the story resembles older stories, certain scientific inaccuracies that were taken from scientists from that time etc? 

With all that said about how I cannot understand how people believe in religion, I for some reason gravitate towards believing in some sort of higher being. Would I be surprised if there was no higher being, No. Would I be surprised if there was a higher being, actually I would be, but I still believe there's something out there. It's the god of the gaps thing that a lot of people can't go away from, and I'm one of those people. Also, I'll be the first to admit, it's a security blanket. Thinking there's something out there, helps me cope with all the nonsense that happens around the world. Also, my limited brain power can't fathom how all of this came to be, even though the Earth is a tiny speck in our universe. For some reason a lot of astrophysicists aren't so stunned that this all could come from chance. I don't have that sort of understanding of the topic, so I end up believing in some sort of higher being and I don't mind believing at all. 
 
The Word of the Lord remains the
same throughout the ages.

Theres a reason the books like the 
Apocrypha didn't sneak their way into 
the Bible.

Its because whether we 
believe it or not God never changes,
neither does his Word.

We are all sinners
even was one Saul of Tarsus,
God can change 
the anyones heart in the blink
of an eye with his revelation.

Yes it does.

KJV still stands today and has
brought many to the Truth of
Christ.

Come on man, you're dodging your own rhetoric now. Earlier you used to bible passages to back up what you were saying, so I spoke in your language. Now you speak in generalities.

Going back to the race thing, it makes me no difference. But as someone whose searching for the truth, historical accounts show Jesus would be of color. So if it makes no difference why is their an agenda to white wash him as much as possible.

You couple that with the aforementioned corruption of the people who put together the KJV of the bible, and please tell me you could see the makings for mind control brewing?
 
I have a very important question, how are you guys quoting multiple people at once? I never figured it out
 
I have a very important question, how are you guys quoting multiple people at once? I never figured it out

right next to the quote button in the lower right hand corner should be a button that says "multi."
Click that and when you get to the last quote you want to respond to click the quote button
 
Come on man, you're dodging your own rhetoric now. Earlier you used to bible passages to back up what you were saying, so I spoke in your language. Now you speak in generalities.

Going back to the race thing, it makes me no difference. But as someone whose searching for the truth, historical accounts show Jesus would be of color. So if it makes no difference why is their an agenda to white wash him as much as possible.

You couple that with the aforementioned corruption of the people who put together the KJV of the bible, and please tell me you could see the makings for mind control brewing?
To save you some time trying to find God through your own knowledge.

Save your time.

If you seek to find about

God's true nature, you will not find 

it in the physical

God is a Spirit and you will only

find knowledge about him

in the spirit.

Anything else is just you making your 

own religion based on your knowledge.

Mind control?

If only you knew.

Tell me a scripture from KJV that

bothers you I'll explain it for you.
 
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Now answer my questions 
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And obviously slightly joking, but also slightly serious, if heaven is going to allow guys who believe god is siding with Israel bangbang, guys who post pictures of steering wheels and construction sites, and guys answering I feel legitimate, respectful questions with lines that basically say don't question anything, then I don't think it's the spot for me. Am I the only one who sees the irony in some of these guys? 

And to the guys who have been respectful and don't like the mocking of religion, I feel you guys. But questioning is never a bad thing when done in a respectful manner, which I feel like a lot of people in here are doing. We're taught from a young age, through our parents and life experiences, never trust things blindly without making sure and being careful. Always question. Don't trust strangers, even don't trust your friends all the time. Yet, the only thing that we can accept blindly is religion. That's what was always interesting to me. 
 
Ok thanks everyone. Another question. Is it pronounced Skay or Ska? Skay sounds better.
 
To save you some time trying to find God through your own knowledge.
Save your time.

If you seek to find about
God's true nature, you will not find 
it in the physical

God is a Spirit and you will only
find knowledge about him
in the spirit.

Anything else is just you making your 
own religion based on your knowledge.

Mind control?
If only you knew.

Don't wanna make this a battle of the wits. If you got peace and love in your that's all that matters.

Like I said man just check out the people who put the bible together and then compare it to stories that came before it. If you feel the same at least you learned some world history and have a better understanding of how the lords word came to be.
 
Yeah I also wondered why God didn't give the Native American Indians a religion? There were over 1 million of them when the European invasion arrived.
 
And obviously slightly joking, but also slightly serious, if heaven is going to allow guys who believe god is siding with Israel bangbang, guys who post pictures of steering wheels and construction sites, and guys answering I feel legitimate, respectful questions with lines that basically say don't question anything, then I don't think it's the spot for me. Am I the only one who sees the irony in some of these guys? 

And to the guys who have been respectful and don't like the mocking of religion, I feel you guys. But questioning is never a bad thing when done in a respectful manner, which I feel like a lot of people in here are doing. We're taught from a young age, through our parents and life experiences, never trust things blindly without making sure and being careful. Always question. Don't trust strangers, even don't trust your friends all the time. Yet, the only thing that we can accept blindly is religion. That's what was always interesting to me. 
Just say names my friend

We all know the people you refer to.

It is only God who can judge who gets in.

With that being said everyone should be fearful

Cuz thats the toughest judge you will ever be

sentenced by.

I could be the most PC,

charity friendly, bloke 

but if I don't know him.

Then I am not coming into

his Home, cuz I am still a sinner.

God loves those who love him 

enough to obey his commands

and fear him enough to turn from 

their flesh

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Galatians 5:22-23

Of course no one is perfect.
 
Ska,

The religious answer to your question would be that Jesus ascended to Heaven therefore his earthly body rose with him

So yeah
 
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