Uber Driver killed by 13 and 15 yr old in DC

[6pac]

Like what if they get pulled over?

Y’all clowning my guy but questions like these stopping ****** from entertaining the thought for more than a second is why upbringing has everything to do with this

 

[misha]

25 sounds about right ain’t no room for arguments she seen old man on the floor and was worried about the phone .

 

[tomdiginson]

You being serious?

 

[dman14]

What kids that don’t even have a license need a car for though?

Like what was the plan? They were gonna bring it to a chop shop or send it out on a shipping container or something?

Sometimes it is part of a bigger organized crime/gang where they hand it over to the adults
Same with thefts where the goods are sold elsewhere
Juveniles handle the street level activities since they get a slap on the wrist

Or they simply tried to take his car for a joy ride

 

[ksteezy]

Yeah it’s clear who in here don’t have kids

Mai you saying because someone doesn’t have kids, one can’t possibly pass a pretty possible judgement on what really went down, here? Not saying 100% this falls back on the parents, but for kids to have this lack of awareness and common sense, something def missing at home....this isn’t an assessment exclusive to parents....hate this scapegoat BS people with kids wanna fall back on when someone without kids calls them out on their **** up....is like being unable to call out a doctor on a mistake or terrible practice simply because you ain’t one, so you can’t possibly understand ...lol

 

[sooperhooper]

The man must have felt some attachment to the car. It was his own vehicle to make ends meet. He probably thought his chances of taking it back were good. But it wasnt.

Exactly. People talking about 'let it go, it's easy to replace'. Like he can just get one delivered in 10 minutes.

 

[sooperhooper]

As a parent of a 15yo, I must say... Parenting ain't easy. Especially nowadays with social media and everything in the world being easily accessible to them. It's really really tough being a parent in these times

I always think to myself that this has to be the toughest time to raise girls. Kids in general is hard, I'm sure, but nowadays, raising girls has to be especially hard. Pretty sure I won't be having kids.

 

[ksteezy]

Yea, people are wild as hell thinking a parent should be held responsible for what their child does, AS IF everything a parent does/teaches their child is always a direct reflection of how the child acts.

Think about all the stupid things we did as teenagers and how much of that was a result of what our parents did/didn't teach us.

Kids are dumb.
Kids do dumb things.

To blame parents is just dumb.

Yes, I know this is an EXTREME situation since we are talking about a robbery that lead to a car crash.
Yes, I know this is an EXTREME situation since we are talking about a robbery that lead to a car crash.
Yes, I know this is an EXTREME situation since we are talking about a robbery that lead to a car crash.
Yes, I know this is an EXTREME situation since we are talking about a robbery that lead to a car crash.
Yes, I know this is an EXTREME situation since we are talking about a robbery that lead to a car crash.

Nobody gonna hang every mistake made by a child over the parenting skills of their parents, that’s given, we’ve all been kids and we all did dumb ****, even here I’m not claiming is 100% on the parents, but I will say is worth looking into the situation....this isn’t a petty theft where a kid snatched up some candy from a grocery store, these dummies had a taser, used it with intent to harm, tried to steal a car and MURDERED someone unprovoked, in the end there was no sign of remorse, one of them was more concerned for her cell phone than the life she just took....I’m sorry but if it was my loved one, I’d want everyone that led to this mess to pay for it to some extent....nowadays parents hand over a tablet to their kid and let that do the parenting, see it way too often.

 

[blastercombo]

25 sounds about right ain’t no room for arguments she seen old man on the floor and was worried about the phone .

That put everything in perspective

 

[KHUFU]

I am going to ask again, because I do not think that people huuuuuuurrrd me.

Did anyone try and convict Kyle Rittenhouse's parents? Were they called patriots for what he did or something?

Horrible how this man's life ended, but how were the parents responsible, if they were around at all?

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

you know, manslaughter charges do exist even if you're not a cop...10-20 along with carjacking charges sounds about right.

 

[ksteezy]

I feel like steezy is the broken clock of NT.

He’ll post something thoughtful here and there, but for every thoughtful post there’s 10 bad takes to cancel it out.

I’m sorry but crap like this gets me emotional and I simply speak from the heart, all I keep thinking is what if that was my loved one who was murdered in such a senseless way....I would want everyone to pay and I wouldn’t be satisfied with just those two girls being punished, I would want the parents to be investigated as well and what the situation was that led to this type of behavior from a 13 and a 15 year old....this is a 13 year old man....we not even talking a high school student yet...we not talking 17 years of age, nearly an adult at which point they can still be under their parents supervision but much more of their own person....at 13 years of age, in most cases you should have a grip on your child still.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Throw the book at these idiots AND I would go as far as pressing some sort of charges on the parents too...because kids this young, THIS STUPID...more than likely falls on crappy parenting.

This was your first post in this thread.

Seems like you jumped RIGHT into the "bad parenting" narrative without second thought.

That is how you felt, point blank.

Don't try and clean it up now.

 

[ksteezy]

I understand why anyone disagrees with it when a life is taken away.

I get it man.

But 13 and 15 are so young and at that age you haven't even started living life forreal.

And what about the life they ended? What about the broken hearts of those that loved that man? His grand kids? They gotta live with that trauma...

 

[ksteezy]

This was your first post in this thread.

Seems like you jumped RIGHT into the "bad parenting" narrative without second thought.

That is how you felt, point blank.

Don't try and clean it up now.

mom not cleaning anything up, I stand behind my initial assessment, couldn’t care less how you feel about it tbh

and I said from the jump, I can’t say this 100% falls back on the parents, but it deserves a deeper look and if the parents simply didn’t bother to keep their kid in check, SPECIALLY since one of them was a repeat car jacker, then yes....time for the adults to be held accountable....IDGAF

 

[Deleted member 42060]

So, underage teens can consent to a crime they commit? They are fully responsible? Explain.

 

[picasso swerve]

Saw this doc on Youtube of a guy who was part of a double homicide and he was what, 13-14 and so was his I guess accomplice and the doc (death row type of doc but he wasnt on DR) was filming him and hes like late 30’s now. Seemed like he had his head on straight now but hes not getting out at all ever. Makes you really think if someone changes for the better after x amount of years, do you still punish them for what they did as a minor?

Tragedy the driver lost his life over something so dumb, and shame these 2 little girls will miss a huge chunk of their teen/adult life.

When it comes to the parents though, def not charge them, I think thats vastly unfair. I would say at that age, the “dumb” **** you do is more an influence from your group of friends and/or others in your life thats not your parents. So why blame the parents?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

mom not cleaning anything up, I stand behind my initial assessment, couldn’t care less how you feel about it tbh

and I said from the jump, I can’t say this 100% falls back on the parents, but it deserves a deeper look and if the parents simply didn’t bother to keep their kid in check, SPECIALLY since one of them was a repeat car jacker, then yes....time for the adults to be held accountable....IDGAF

It's cool. Your skewed view of reality isn't exclusive to KSteezy.

We can agree to disagree here.

 

[ksteezy]

It clearly wasn't. Which is why I think the "Life in prison" and "Try them as adults" takes are wild.

If I didn't know better I'd think Bill Clinton was typing some of these responses.

What’s dawning here is how you obviously sympathize more with the two girls who just took a life in the most senseless way, than the poor man who died face down on video for his whole family to witness, because that thing now lives on the internet....this isn’t a case where these girls were wrongfully accused....they committed the crime on video in broad daylight and showed no remorse, **** them, Their skin color is irrelevant, I’d feel the same type of animosity towards them if they were white....probably even more if they were white tbh...because regardless two black girls pulling this stunt falls back on systemic racism one way or another.

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

Dude there’s levels to al of this and these 2 kids are at the absolute extreme. Maturity isn’t necessary to teach that killing is wrong. It’s a basic human instinct. There’s a wire that isn’t there. Sorry but “they’ll maybe learn” is out the window. Sure, they’ll also maybe kill another person. We aren’t taking about stealing gum here. Someone is dead. That’s not changing. At best they could be an example for someone not to do this

Good point

 

[ksteezy]

Damn this is so sad for the family of the victim, these girls will be out in 6 and 8 years....with their whole lives ahead and God knows if they’ll actually rehab in juvie and go on to become actual positive members of society, while this family lost their husband, father, grandfather, one being a repeat offender...ya really telling me, parenting isn’t a factor here? AIGHT.

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

Man do yall know people in their 60s?

they dont accept that they are old

they still think they can rock with the best of them. 66 isnt that old

 

[Comparison Ford]

What’s dawning here is how you obviously sympathize more with the two girls who just took a life in the most senseless way, than the poor man who died face down on video for his whole family to witness, because that thing now lives on the internet....this isn’t a case where these girls were wrongfully accused....they committed the crime on video in broad daylight and showed no remorse, **** them, Their skin color is irrelevant, I’d feel the same type of animosity towards them if they were white....probably even more if they were white tbh...because regardless two black girls pulling this stunt falls back on systemic racism one way or another.

I think you'd be very hard-pressed to find anyone here that sympathizes with the girls more than they sympathize with the dude.

You can sympathize with the dude while simultaneously thinking that treating 13-15 year olds as adults isn't the best approach to their treatment if rehabilitation is the ultimate goal of our criminal justice system.

 

[Comparison Ford]

Damn this is so sad for the family of the victim, these girls will be out in 6 and 8 years....with their whole lives ahead and God knows if they’ll actually rehab in juvie and go on to become actual positive members of society, while this family lost their husband, father, grandfather, one being a repeat offender...ya really telling me, parenting isn’t a factor here? AIGHT.

Another blatant misrepresentation here. No one is saying parenting isn't a factor, we're saying we don't have enough information to confidently assert that at the present moment.

Stay on the bus.

 

[QU!K]

Does the function of a car CHANGE depending on the age/qualifications?

A teenager is stealing a car to drive it, I mean what else would they want to do with it?

Them having a license has nothing to do with it.

Maybe they were not stealing the car to drive like I suggested. Maybe the car is just a form of currency for them to get money.

This was obviously premeditated and well thought out before hand considering it was 2 of them and they brought a taser with them.

this wasn’t some “oh look an empty car with keys in it let’s go for a ride!”

They went through all that trouble to joy ride for a couple hours? Then dump on some corner?