calvinjohnson
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obama ftw
whats your take on Obama mandating a 36MPG minimum on cars? VOL. RIP V8, corvette, camaro, chargers
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Weren't you in the Friday thread moaning about not having a prom date? You sound really naive saying "obama ftw"
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what happens to the companies that stay in business because there products increase horsepower? more jobs down the tube
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ben roethlisberger
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I personally love driving as fast as possible. I can be responsible of course but @%%#, it's boring just driving 40.
Thumbs down to Obama for this bull.
Thumbs down to Obama for this bull.
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NikeTalker23 wrote:
I usually agree with you but...
You cannot be serious. That has to be one of the most idiotic posts I've ever read from you.
What do you dislike about my post? Do you think I am actually advocating these ideas or do you not like my using a reductio line of argument? I willassume it is the latter. Either way, I know that at least some of you guys know a limit to government micro managing people's lives in the name of a"greater good."
I would not assume that cars, health care, energy and credit be the only things subject to tighter regulation and rationing. Many people on the political leftare obsessed with what others eat and what type of housing others use. The amount of time spent thing and talking about obesity, the evils of eating meat ornor organic food and the complaints that so many folks in the exurbs live in large "McMansions." This neo puritanism, that calls itself progressivepolitics, is currently getting most of its ideas implemented into policy.
When you advocate forced austerity for one group, it can very well turn into other forms of mandated austerity for you.
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Wow.
Man Rush & Sean have been saying it for years.
Check the government too homie
No, you don't. That's like saying you have every right to dump oil in the !$*%@$% ocean. Emissions and pollution as whole are a problem for everyone, if everyone had this kinda attitude we'd all be $%+*$! 10 years from now.
Are you stupid???
Or just un-American???
if i want to drive a hummer and i got the money to, i should have every right to do so, the government shouldn't have a hand into what kinda cars i should be driving.Originally Posted by ninjahood
No, you don't. That's like saying you have every right to dump oil in the !$*%@$% ocean.
Spoken like a true American
Originally Posted by rickybadman
At some of these responses, a minor change to better the country and dudes *****ing just because they are the ones that have to make the sacrifice.
How about NO
Global warming....Originally Posted by Trelvis Tha Thrilla
MY DUDE WITH THE RUSHLIMBAUGH.COM picture avy!!!Originally Posted by elgrenas
Originally Posted by ninjahood
personally as a muscle car and truck fan i HATE it..........
i don't ever wanna drive a car whats battery assisted and weak compared to da big block high HP beasts that i love.
well get used to driving a car with a honda lawnmower motor. hey you can always sup up your mower engine. what a joke we voted for a president not a dictator mandating from ceo's pay to how cars are going to be built. but hey its change alright.
Apparently you don't know what AMERICA is about!
Because global warming is real......Originally Posted by November33rd
That tells me everything I need to know. Your opinion is useless.
"Evidence".... please.... want me to find you evidence saying that there is no proof that man is the cause? There'sPLENTY out there.
That's Obama's thought pattern though.... that's the thought pattern of the far left..... they want the government bedoing things like..... controlling TONS of stuff
More such things will come....
At least you understand what America is all about.
Yeah the government is the answer..... always......Originally Posted by Essential1
Originally Posted by Je Ne Sais Quoi
I'm going out on a limb here, but wouldn't this mandate help motivate technology? Sure hybrid cars today are weak and do 0 to 60 in one day, but who knows in the future. Car manufacturers may put in some work on the R&D side to get a car going and moving like OG whips but with more advanced tech. I dunno, just a thought.
It's never a corporation's fault. Always remember that.
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Originally Posted by desent
Fuel Injection, Hybrids with Battery And Gas Mix... First Born is completely right... and smh at the guy that said hannity was right and obama is forcing us into "less safe, less comfortable, less... blah blah cars" The companies can just create cars with higher mpg... It's not that hard, and if they want to stay in business they will have to be more fuel conscious. So no they are not going to just let it go and give up they will try and succeed or like most business fail...Originally Posted by ninjahood
proof
Survivor of the fittest!
There inlies the big problem. Obama will not let them fail. And the 39 mpg average is a fleet average, not every vehicle so if a company could still havevehicles in the 20s as along as the average for all the models is 39. Not sure if it applies to SUVs/trucks or not.
lilstarz07
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hes also the guy who spelled dress "jress" ... solid ...
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agreed.
you guys really care this much about this? first off its not like this is goin down tomorrow, you still got a good couple years to enjoy ur hummers and urbimmers... i voted obama, but im far from mr. super pro obama, and far from anti-obama, but i do realize that when i voted him in, that i was voting forsomeone to shake things up, and to change with the times. we consume way more gas than the rest of the world. we need to chill. we need better publictransportation and none of that goes through because of how 'in bed' our countries leaders have been with big oil and the automotive industries. yeaits whack whatever my car is illegal 7 years but whatever, throw it in the gutter, go buy another.
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SMH BOUT TIME
I DONT THINK YALL GUYS GET THE BIGGER PICTURE THO
THE CAR IS WAY OVER DUE
SINCE 1912 OR WHENEVER THE FIRST WAS BUILT
WE ARE IN THE YEAR 2009
AROUND THE 40'S-50'S
WE MADE THE FIRST PERSONAL FLYING THINGY
NOW
WE ARE STILL USING CARS TILL THIS DAY
HELL EVEN NAZI'S MADE THEY VERY OWN UFO'S
BACK WHEN THEY WAS ON TOP
WE NEED TO BE FLYING RIGHT NOW SINCE THE 80'S-90'S
REMEMEBER THE HYPE FOR THE FLYING CAR & MICHEAL JACKSON GOING TO BE FIRST WITH IT
HUH?/......WAT HAPPPEN ????
THE BIG NAMES AT TOP
ARE SCARED FOR PEOPLE TO FLY ON THEY OWN
IT KEEPS US UNDER CONTROL
& LIMITED ALSO
TAKING YEARS TO DRIVE FROM FL TO NY
FLYING >>> DRIVING AS OF THE YEAR 09'
YOU'LL SOON UNDERSTAND ...BECAUSE THE ONES IN SPACE DO...
I DONT THINK YALL GUYS GET THE BIGGER PICTURE THO
THE CAR IS WAY OVER DUE
SINCE 1912 OR WHENEVER THE FIRST WAS BUILT
WE ARE IN THE YEAR 2009
AROUND THE 40'S-50'S
WE MADE THE FIRST PERSONAL FLYING THINGY
NOW
WE ARE STILL USING CARS TILL THIS DAY
HELL EVEN NAZI'S MADE THEY VERY OWN UFO'S
BACK WHEN THEY WAS ON TOP
WE NEED TO BE FLYING RIGHT NOW SINCE THE 80'S-90'S
REMEMEBER THE HYPE FOR THE FLYING CAR & MICHEAL JACKSON GOING TO BE FIRST WITH IT
HUH?/......WAT HAPPPEN ????
THE BIG NAMES AT TOP
ARE SCARED FOR PEOPLE TO FLY ON THEY OWN
IT KEEPS US UNDER CONTROL
& LIMITED ALSO
TAKING YEARS TO DRIVE FROM FL TO NY
FLYING >>> DRIVING AS OF THE YEAR 09'
YOU'LL SOON UNDERSTAND ...BECAUSE THE ONES IN SPACE DO...
lilstarz07
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guys its happening oh no! the liberals are ruining our cars!
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flying is way less efficient than those bullet trains they pop off with in asia and europe
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Iansmk wrote:
agreed.
you guys really care this much about this? first off its not like this is goin down tomorrow, you still got a good couple years to enjoy ur hummers and ur bimmers... i voted obama, but im far from mr. super pro obama, and far from anti-obama, but i do realize that when i voted him in, that i was voting for someone to shake things up, and to change with the times. we consume way more gas than the rest of the world. we need to chill. we need better public transportation and none of that goes through because of how 'in bed' our countries leaders have been with big oil and the automotive industries. yea its whack whatever my car is illegal 7 years but whatever, throw it in the gutter, go buy another.
Posting a graph does not make a bad idea into a good idea. What that graph shows is that most people would like to drive but in most parts of the world, theirgasoline is too heavily taxed or they are too poor to be able to afford that luxury so they have to settle for public transportation, which is almost always aninferior substitute for getting to drive. Even in the face of high taxes, when countries become wealthier, people start to buy cars so they can get off ofpublic transportation or off of scooters or ox carts.
People every where want to drive, we Americans, on average, actually get to drive a lot and this some how problem? Posting a pair of bar graphs does not changethe fact that these news laws are part of series of laws that limit consumer choice, needlessly reduce cost and/or supply of a good and push us further downthe road of central economic planning and rationing of goods that right now do not have to be rationed. If you want to undertake an agenda of voluntaryausterity, go ahead, it you dragging myself and others who do not want to be a part of this madness with you.
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totally support obama! but not on this...hahahaha
lilstarz07
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yes, i do ... please understand what youre talking about beore you brush it off as just some "environmental friendly" solution ...
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so are cars are gonna be less powerful and will make us buy more gas?
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No, you don't. That's like saying you have every right to dump oil in the !$*%@$% ocean. Emissions and pollution as whole are a problem for everyone, if everyone had this kinda attitude we'd all be $%+*$! 10 years from now.
Are you stupid???
Or just un-American???
You know what, I'm gonna take that one back. Yall are both 100% right, you do have the right to drive a 8mpg hummer, the freedom to do so is a principlethat this country was built on and it's part of what makes living here so great, I don't wanna see the day when it's illegal to drive a truck/sportscar/whatever. It's not that you don't or shouldn't have the right, it's that,bottom line, those type of cars are +#$!$$$ the environment up for everybody, so I somewhat agree with a mandate, because car companies need to take the hitand start producing more efficient hummers and sports cars. Believe me it can be done, hell, it's being done rightnow, but they're profiting off cars that only get 8mpg and we all know the bottom line is whats important. I'mtellin yall, sports car don't die out and neither do trucks, period. It's just doesn't happen, and anybody who says it does has no ideawhat kind of technology is available right now for automakers.
I like the outcome of the mandate, but whether or not we could've achieved that same outcome in a less heavy handed way, that's a whole other issue.
lilstarz07
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cars are going to be more expensive and less powerful ... unless we "miraculously" come up with a significant amount of R & D funding where wewill be able to create the technology to make up for it ... which, under the current economic situation and industry standing of american manufacturers, isabsolutely absurd ...
we are sitting here on the verge of GM going bankrupt and this is our solution to the energy "crisis" ... lol ... i dont even like hannity that muchbut damn if the one thing he contstantly harps on is the democrats solution being just make smaller, less safe cars ... every time i turn on his show hestalking about his hybrid escalade that he loves lmao ...
we are sitting here on the verge of GM going bankrupt and this is our solution to the energy "crisis" ... lol ... i dont even like hannity that muchbut damn if the one thing he contstantly harps on is the democrats solution being just make smaller, less safe cars ... every time i turn on his show hestalking about his hybrid escalade that he loves lmao ...
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Good idea Barack.
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yea, lets keep using %#+*%% emission cars, forever. makes perfect sense. obama's ruining our freedoms.
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i'm scared for the future of this world...while the "mandate" make the standard seem sinister, it is so necessary; we've (here in the us)have been talking about making more efficient cars & reducing dependence on foreign oil for a few DECADES now...as for folk concerned about thegov'ment dictating what we drive? isn't clear that the mandate is an average for a the range of cars produced? this doesn't mean performancevehicles go away, they will likely need to be more fuel efficient though. so i'm not sure the conclusion that choice, fuel efficiency, & hp are notdiametrically opposed ideas...i can't understand what the opposing argument is? do people think having more fuel efficient vehicles is a bad thing?
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We don't want to see our old favorites go
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There goes my dream car when I have enough cash
