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after the last election, this has been my thought process as well. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Who Will You Be Voting For This November
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useless to talk politics on NT, people like Weekz say basic, bland, blanket statements like that and have no idea what they're talking about.
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see, it's this stupid mentality that makes older people lose faith in the upcoming voters and youth. This is the dumbest reason you can possibly have for voting for someone, and don't even come back trying to say you were kidding. You're an idiot with no idea what's going on with the election, and only voting for Obama because he is "your broski"
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^^ You mad broski? It's HIS vote, let that man vote for who HE wants to vote for
Yea like the first 41 presidents weren't voted in by their broskies...............
And at least Obama has a SOLUTION to fixing problems in the country, Republicans just want to repeal everything Obama has done, they cant even tell how they would fix anything, all they do is cut public services and give tax breaks to millionaires because rich people who own everything still go shopping every week apparently and they are keeping the economy alive because rich people are so much better than everybody.............
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If obama wins ...
deff wont be living in the USA any more.
his outlook on tax's is almost like a dictatorship. take from the rich and give to the poor **@%@@++.
i dont work my @+* off to stack paper to give it to the government.
poor people don't employ people, people with money employ people, so how we gonna employ more people when we struggling just to pay taxes
deff wont be living in the USA any more.
his outlook on tax's is almost like a dictatorship. take from the rich and give to the poor **@%@@++.
i dont work my @+* off to stack paper to give it to the government.
poor people don't employ people, people with money employ people, so how we gonna employ more people when we struggling just to pay taxes
Originally Posted by gambit215
Yea like the first 41 presidents weren't voted in by their broskies...............
And at least Obama has a SOLUTION to fixing problems in the country, Republicans just want to repeal everything Obama has done, they cant even tell how they would fix anything, all they do is cut public services and give tax breaks to millionaires because rich people who own everything still go shopping every week apparently and they are keeping the economy alive because rich people are so much better than everybody.............
It's "job creators", not millionaires because every millionaire is a "job creator", including Mitt Romney who earns most of his income from carried interest and capital gains.
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damn g can i live
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One of the reason's its gonna be great to see Obama win a 2nd term.. He pisses off the right so damn much its laughable.
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Ron Paul
If he doesn't run as a third option, I'll vote for Obama.
If he doesn't run as a third option, I'll vote for Obama.
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It is frightening how many people vote Republican in the hope that those tax policies will benefit them when they become rich - and even more so in the Southern States where a lot of those voters are poor. The Republicans don't even look out for the middle class - you have to make a lot more money than that for their policies to benefit you.
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the tax policies apply to people who make 250k+ i believe.
250k aint @@*$ bro.
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Our voting system is so flawed, it doesnt matter who an individual votes for. 3 times the person who won the presidency, actually lost the popular vote.
If you care about learning.
If you care about learning.
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im not sure if i even wanna vote this year.
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Obama... But not sure I feel like debating in 2012, like I did in 2008 in here..
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k bye
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I won't be its always pre determined who wins
The voting "system" is just to please the people
The voting "system" is just to please the people
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Do you know how many times President Obama has raised taxes since being in office? Zero. In fact, he extended the Bush tax cuts, lowered the payroll tax which funds Social Security and has offered tax write offs for businesses. I know a "certain media outlet" wants to paint Obama as some radical socialist, but take it from a socialist(me), Obama is not one.
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No one, I never vote and never will. its just a wast of time.
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The problem with a close election without an electoral college is it will be contested for months if not a year.. Electoral college allows for a closer examination of a state, not entire 100million + votes... If you have popular vote, and say it is as close as Bush v. Gore, you can contest individual voting districts anywhere in the country, so long as you can provide sufficient evidence... It would be an arduous task of #%!%%#%%.. Districts where a republic won 75% of the vote, can be challenged, and recounted as winning only 74% of the vote, which every vote counts. The turn around from election to inauguration is 2 and a half months, so there is not even enough time to go through the procedural mess it would cause.
What the electoral college is... is 53 winner take all elections (including D.C., Nebraska and Maine each have a separate electoral vote for a single district), the winner of that state or 1 District wins the electoral votes... View it as 53 popular vote races, culminating in a weighed voting system (Electoral College), where the size of each state determines its importance. (It doesn't violate the "one-man, one-vote" provision of the Constitution, like the Board of Estimate in 1989, therefore it is legal)...
It has its flaws, but so does popular vote.. And where the flaws exist is the review process.
What the electoral college is... is 53 winner take all elections (including D.C., Nebraska and Maine each have a separate electoral vote for a single district), the winner of that state or 1 District wins the electoral votes... View it as 53 popular vote races, culminating in a weighed voting system (Electoral College), where the size of each state determines its importance. (It doesn't violate the "one-man, one-vote" provision of the Constitution, like the Board of Estimate in 1989, therefore it is legal)...
It has its flaws, but so does popular vote.. And where the flaws exist is the review process.
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Furthermore, for everyone who says their vote is a waste of time.. Think about how many other people you know who say that, and who they know who says that and on and on..
Voting is power (it truly is, not on cliche status).. Politics may be a rich man's game, but if a large bloc doesn't vote from your demographic (18-35), you won't get considered at all.. You ever noticed why old people get considered so much in politics, because they vote in massive numbers..
In 2008, college students and young adults voted in records numbers, and in the past 4 years have gotten some consideration (not to our hope in severity, but more than we ever had in the policy process)
You don't show up, you will get $#@+ on every time because there is no consequence if they punish you...
Rather than say it is "a waste of time".. It is more so that you are lazy to spend at most 45 minutes to vote (and that is if it is a huge line)...
So when the politician does $#@+ that targets and hurts us young folk, it is because it is the same-o same-o.. Enough of you dumb %%%@% decided to be lazy and if they screw you it is because you allowed them to.
Voting is power (it truly is, not on cliche status).. Politics may be a rich man's game, but if a large bloc doesn't vote from your demographic (18-35), you won't get considered at all.. You ever noticed why old people get considered so much in politics, because they vote in massive numbers..
In 2008, college students and young adults voted in records numbers, and in the past 4 years have gotten some consideration (not to our hope in severity, but more than we ever had in the policy process)
You don't show up, you will get $#@+ on every time because there is no consequence if they punish you...
Rather than say it is "a waste of time".. It is more so that you are lazy to spend at most 45 minutes to vote (and that is if it is a huge line)...
So when the politician does $#@+ that targets and hurts us young folk, it is because it is the same-o same-o.. Enough of you dumb %%%@% decided to be lazy and if they screw you it is because you allowed them to.
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And you should know. You've watched several videos about it on youtube.
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Except thats not true at all. Electoral votes are redistributed from the large states to the small states so that states that really should only get 1 vote get either 3 or 4 electoral votes. For example, Cali has 10 less votes than it should by size, and Texas has 6 less than it should, because those votes were given to smaller states like Wyoming. A person from Wyomings vote actually counts as much as 4 Texans votes because of this redistribution of votes.
And because of this, you can actually win an election, receiving 50.1% of the electoral vote, but only receiving something like 26% of the popular vote.