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Lol at all the "true J's" talk........ Kids these days.....
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mine squeaked but like suggested baby powder got the job done foreal.I've had OG's, 2003's and 2011's, and none of mine squeeked
mine too, hate it but I love the style of the shoe. Looking for another pair of the white/black ones from last year beat my pair upevery pair i've owned squeaked..
those refs are clean though
I think people skip them because they're not a great looking shoe. I've had a couple pairs and used them as beaters. I used to mow my yard in a pair until I found a pair of Jordan 6 boots to do it in.
HA.Lol at all the "true J's" talk........ Kids these days.....
Look man, I couldn't care less how the "game" is today. The younger generation can stuff it. Cats buy what they want to wear, and I'm all for it. But I was simply answering the original question. What I said was valid too.You sir, have absolutely no idea what your talking about. People wonder why the game is what it is today. Its because guys like you are the ones out there " schooling" the new generation
HA.
I'm almost certain I'm older than you bub.
Put it like this: we're sitting here talking about a deviation from an original design. Not saying an IE isn't ORIGINAL, but I'm saying that it's not the ORIGINAL 11. It's a design change.
But beyond all that, you guys are saying "oh, WTF are TRUE JAYS???!!1111!!1!" Look, I'm just on an upper level with my classifications of Jordans than most people. Outside of a numbered Jay, you all are like, "Teams? Phats? Get the fruit outta here!!!1!111!!"
Well, I'm like get the fruit outta here with everything that isn't an original design of the shoe. See how there is no difference, other than a stricter classification?
Nevermind. As Moliere put it:
"One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others."
Yeah, your opinion is completely valid, but I disagree with you. I am curious though, what is your opinion on the AJ II lows from 1985 and 1994?My definition was referring to Jordan's but I can see how it applies to LeBrons. It's up to you to agree with it or not.
The 2s didn't deviate from the original design. I mentioned earlier that lows DO in fact 'count', but the ones that changed the design do not 'count'.Yeah, your opinion is completely valid, but I disagree with you. I am curious though, what is your opinion on the AJ II lows from 1985 and 1994?
I think the feeling that these are "true jays" comes from the fact that these were the first version of an Air Jordan that looked different from the original. Also, since MJ wore them on the court, people considered them legit too. I remember when they came out, I was still young at the time but I remember when I first saw that box opened, nobody thought of them as any lower grade of Jordans at the time. My friends and I were gathered around at a basketball camp checking them out, and I can say we were all jealous of our one friend who got them. Does that meant they are "true jays", I'm not sure, but in my mind they were just the next new dope thing to come from JB at the time and we all wanted it. Just the basis for my opinion on the shoe, I always thought they were as "true" jays as any other.
And the real reason I use the term "true" is because it means authentic. As in an authentic Jordan numbered shoe.
..It can have the Jumpman on it, it can say Jordan on the box. But it's not a true J.
I understand all this, and I assume most people in this thread do too. Its not a lack of shoe knowledge that leads us to form our opinions on this matter. We differentiate between XI ie's and other non #'d models like team models, and 8.0s. MJ wore these on the court. They were released in '96, not like the 8.0s that came out almost 20 years after the VIII's.The 2s didn't deviate from the original design. I mentioned earlier that lows DO in fact 'count', but the ones that changed the design do not 'count'.
And the real reason I use the term "true" is because it means authentic. As in an authentic Jordan numbered shoe. You can have derivatives and they may be nice to some people, but the 11 IEs aren't the original design hence the term "true". People went up in arms because they think I'm saying the shoe ain't legit, and that's not what I'm saying.
An original number is an original number. Think of it this way. If Aqua 8s are on the shelf at the same time Aqua 8.0s, which are flying off said shelves?
The 8.0s will be slept on because it's not a true J. It can have the Jumpman on it, it can say Jordan on the box. But it's not a true J.
Lol no one was trying to change your mind. Damn bro, did you believe I was appealing to YOU personally?I understand all this, and I assume most people in this thread do too. Its not a lack of shoe knowledge that leads us to form our opinions on this matter. We differentiate between XI ie's and other non #'d models like team models, and 8.0s. MJ wore these on the court. They were released in '96, not like the 8.0s that came out almost 20 years after the VIII's.
I have a different opinion on this than you, and you're not going to change my mind on it. I agree with you on most of the other examples you used but not these. But don't get the dudes on here(most of us at least) confused with the people who think anything with a jumpman is a sig model. Its not that you know any more about this topic than us, its a difference of opinion.
And now, I'm leaving this alone. We could debate this forever.