Why do interviewers waste peoples' time?

[jfdoom]

Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

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Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Why bother calling people in if you don't plan on hiring them in the first place?

how do you know this for a fact?

Because i was called in for a drug test? When an employer calls you in for that, 9 times outta 10 you got the job.

Apparently not.



Getting called back for a drug test doesn't signify you got the job in anyway. It's just the next step of the interview process. Passing the drug and background test just keeps you in the running. It doesn't get you the job.





Stop crying about your time being wasted and just do better on your interviews. Hiring managers aren't out to waste your time...or more importantly...their time. They're job is to hire the best candidate. If they thought you were the best candidate, they would've hired you.

So it's my fault now?

Yes. Stop *****ing about your time being wasted. Do better on your interview. Complaining isn't going to get you a job.


Chances are, they don't give a damn about your time anyway.

You can always choose NOT to go to the interview. I mean since your time is so valuable why even bother with the interview right?
You DON'T know how i interviewed. Don't assume.

Telling me i'm overqualified for the position? They KNEW that when they saw my resume. Why call me in if that was the case? Calling me in for drug tests..for what?

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Why bother calling people in if you don't plan on hiring them in the first place?

how do you know this for a fact?

Because i was called in for a drug test? When an employer calls you in for that, 9 times outta 10 you got the job.

so you're the 1 out of 10..
...in the end they went in a different direction that meets their business needs

frustrating.. yes.  But that's how it is.






Very frustrating. I'm not really mad i didn't get the job, i'm just mad i had to jump through hoops for nothing. For the NBC gig, i had to meet with 5 people + the drug test. That's multiple hours wasted and money lost for nothing.

Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein


OP keep ur head up man, bout 2 months ago I was internal and applied for the job, aced the interview and was offered the position and accepted. a week before I was suppose to had started....HR tells my would be new supervisor they messed up initially and I wasnt even "qualified" for the position...one of the sickest moments for me....when I finally convinced myself that I had really landed the gig that $%&^%happens!!...

i didnt wanna get too hype about it till i officially started working cuz I was still skeptical from when I initially applied and thought I didnt qualify myself but ya know I went along with everything and thought hell i made it ya know...and then boom! smh

I was pissed, government and stupid civil service rules FTL!! If thats even the truth to what happened...sum ppl tell me other employees may have filed a grievance over the hiring

Sorry to hear that dude.

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

So you're the bitter serial job candidate now OP?

Change your attitude, pick it back up, and keep trying.
I know it's frustrating.  I remember traveling out of state for four different interviews in the same year
and not landing the job.  I kept trying and eventually landed something.
Don't give up.

Bitter? nah my dude...a lil pissed, though since i value my time more than anything. The first job i had in the bag or at least i thought. Interviewer loved me and seemed to want to hire me..why tell me later on "we think you know a little too much". Makes no sense. You saw from my resume i was a little over qualified for this position. Maybe she thought i was bluffing and called me in to see if it were true? who knows.

 

[supermanblue79]

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

So you're the bitter serial job candidate now OP?

Change your attitude, pick it back up, and keep trying.
I know it's frustrating.  I remember traveling out of state for four different interviews in the same year
and not landing the job.  I kept trying and eventually landed something.
Don't give up.

Bitter? nah my dude...a lil pissed, though since i value my time more than anything. The first job i had in the bag or at least i thought. Interviewer loved me and seemed to want to hire me..why tell me later on "we think you know a little too much". Makes no sense. You saw from my resume i was a little over qualified for this position. Maybe she thought i was bluffing and called me in to see if it were true? who knows.

There are a lot of things that go into hiring a candidate.  A lot of company's are bargain shopping now.  If there is a qualified candidate that would command a better salary than someone that appears trainable that could be hired for substantially less money, then 9 out of 10 times they are going to go with that trainable, less expensive candidate.
Don't take it personal OP, it's the nature of business.
Keep a positive attitude, and enjoy the interview process.  You'll land something in due time.

 

[supermanblue79]

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

So you're the bitter serial job candidate now OP?

Change your attitude, pick it back up, and keep trying.
I know it's frustrating.  I remember traveling out of state for four different interviews in the same year
and not landing the job.  I kept trying and eventually landed something.
Don't give up.

Bitter? nah my dude...a lil pissed, though since i value my time more than anything. The first job i had in the bag or at least i thought. Interviewer loved me and seemed to want to hire me..why tell me later on "we think you know a little too much". Makes no sense. You saw from my resume i was a little over qualified for this position. Maybe she thought i was bluffing and called me in to see if it were true? who knows.

There are a lot of things that go into hiring a candidate.  A lot of company's are bargain shopping now.  If there is a qualified candidate that would command a better salary than someone that appears trainable that could be hired for substantially less money, then 9 out of 10 times they are going to go with that trainable, less expensive candidate.
Don't take it personal OP, it's the nature of business.
Keep a positive attitude, and enjoy the interview process.  You'll land something in due time.

 

[mrben23]

I'm not an HR guy, but I will share some secrets I've learned from someone who works for a powerful company. I don't know if this is true everywhere, but it is a reality and it might put some things into perspective for OP and others.

-Concerning drug tests: OP is right. If you get asked for the drug test, you usually have the job unless you fail the test. It costs time and money to conduct drug tests. They aren't going to waste either.
-Concerning the over qualified comment: You have a great resume. They call you in to learn more. But something you say in the interview does make you seem like a) you don't fit the company culture or b) you truly are overqualified. People that fit the culture are more valuable than someone who is a techy god. If they don't think you will fit in their company culture, you will be more of a hassle than an asset. Additionally, people that don't fit or are truly overqualified are expected not to stick with the company long term. For example, suppose you were an accomplished culinary arts graduate and you interviewed for a full-time gig at McDonalds. They might interview you and then realize you are too ambitious and too good and won't stick with McDonalds for that long. They won't waste time because time is money. Good HR people want to hire people that will help the company grow for potentially the next 4-5 years.
-Concerning the hiring within the company: Someone was right about it being beneficial for the company. It could also be as simple as someone owes somebody or someone knows somebody. It's also possible that someone within the company applied for the position and obviously this is a win/win for the HR manager. That person already knows the system, the culture, etc. and they once again can save time and money. But still, why interview outside if you knew who was going to get the job all along? It's usually written into their inclusion statement or something like that. It might even be a state law. I don't remember. But businesses have to follow the rules. For example: If the CEO's recent graduated son wants a job, he'll get it. But they are required by some mandate to interview outside of the company anyway.

Anyway, dirty little secrets, but def interesting to know.

"Keep your head up" and "keep trying" isn't cliche or overrated. Some people have given up a long time ago and as someone said earlier, some don't even get the interview. Good luck in all that you do.

 

[mrben23]

I'm not an HR guy, but I will share some secrets I've learned from someone who works for a powerful company. I don't know if this is true everywhere, but it is a reality and it might put some things into perspective for OP and others.

-Concerning drug tests: OP is right. If you get asked for the drug test, you usually have the job unless you fail the test. It costs time and money to conduct drug tests. They aren't going to waste either.
-Concerning the over qualified comment: You have a great resume. They call you in to learn more. But something you say in the interview does make you seem like a) you don't fit the company culture or b) you truly are overqualified. People that fit the culture are more valuable than someone who is a techy god. If they don't think you will fit in their company culture, you will be more of a hassle than an asset. Additionally, people that don't fit or are truly overqualified are expected not to stick with the company long term. For example, suppose you were an accomplished culinary arts graduate and you interviewed for a full-time gig at McDonalds. They might interview you and then realize you are too ambitious and too good and won't stick with McDonalds for that long. They won't waste time because time is money. Good HR people want to hire people that will help the company grow for potentially the next 4-5 years.
-Concerning the hiring within the company: Someone was right about it being beneficial for the company. It could also be as simple as someone owes somebody or someone knows somebody. It's also possible that someone within the company applied for the position and obviously this is a win/win for the HR manager. That person already knows the system, the culture, etc. and they once again can save time and money. But still, why interview outside if you knew who was going to get the job all along? It's usually written into their inclusion statement or something like that. It might even be a state law. I don't remember. But businesses have to follow the rules. For example: If the CEO's recent graduated son wants a job, he'll get it. But they are required by some mandate to interview outside of the company anyway.

Anyway, dirty little secrets, but def interesting to know.

"Keep your head up" and "keep trying" isn't cliche or overrated. Some people have given up a long time ago and as someone said earlier, some don't even get the interview. Good luck in all that you do.

 

[moderate gatsby]

I always thought you were good once they did the background test and drug test.

 

[moderate gatsby]

I always thought you were good once they did the background test and drug test.

 

[stockholm patriot]

To be quite honest half of HR's are idiots unless it's an Multi-Million dollar company that runs like a machine...but any entry level, general employment HR are idiots most the time.
Interviewing you gives them something to do besides facebook and youville from 9-5.

I'm self employed and loving it, government GIVES ME MONEY for owning a business.
I decided 2 years ago I'M NEVER WORKING FOR ANYONE AGAIN. When I get
my Ph.d I'm opening my own practice out the gate.

I don't waste my time nor lay my pride on the line for someone else...those days are far gone for me.

 

[stockholm patriot]

To be quite honest half of HR's are idiots unless it's an Multi-Million dollar company that runs like a machine...but any entry level, general employment HR are idiots most the time.
Interviewing you gives them something to do besides facebook and youville from 9-5.

I'm self employed and loving it, government GIVES ME MONEY for owning a business.
I decided 2 years ago I'M NEVER WORKING FOR ANYONE AGAIN. When I get
my Ph.d I'm opening my own practice out the gate.

I don't waste my time nor lay my pride on the line for someone else...those days are far gone for me.

 

[38816]

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

 

[38816]

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

 

[ace rawstein]

Not to go off the subject but how do you guys handled the "situational questions" in interviews???....I dont have a lot of experience but I know what interviewers want to hear or so I think I do....but I think i start slowing down my flow in the interview at times when I try to shoot out a story just to get to the part where I "handled it the right way or showed a key trait"

i havent narrowed down or created my stories yet, and I hate using examples from college cuz i figure work examples are better but thats all i have...in my job now im not really coming across those conflict situations and demonstrating outstanding leadership skills.

i mean i should be lying right? we are selling ourselves.

 

[stockholm patriot]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

I do a hundred different things, I have one LLC and like 6 DBAs...I pay taxes on EVERYTHING and keep receipts for EVERYTHING.
Tax write-offs FTW

.


We'll chop it up in Miami bro, booked my flight and ticket this morning, I'm staying for 2 weeks

 

[stockholm patriot]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

I do a hundred different things, I have one LLC and like 6 DBAs...I pay taxes on EVERYTHING and keep receipts for EVERYTHING.
Tax write-offs FTW

.


We'll chop it up in Miami bro, booked my flight and ticket this morning, I'm staying for 2 weeks

 

[ace rawstein]

Not to go off the subject but how do you guys handled the "situational questions" in interviews???....I dont have a lot of experience but I know what interviewers want to hear or so I think I do....but I think i start slowing down my flow in the interview at times when I try to shoot out a story just to get to the part where I "handled it the right way or showed a key trait"

i havent narrowed down or created my stories yet, and I hate using examples from college cuz i figure work examples are better but thats all i have...in my job now im not really coming across those conflict situations and demonstrating outstanding leadership skills.

i mean i should be lying right? we are selling ourselves.

 

[bangdak]

Why dont you network some more instead of complaining to us?


I understand it's frustrating and upsetting, but what you're doing right now isn't going to help. Like someone said, why not reevaluate this situation in another perspective?


Yes, 90% of the time, if you're offered a drug test, you're most likely hired; just because you were offered a drug test doesnt mean you're automatically hired, granted you pass the test.

 

[bangdak]

Why dont you network some more instead of complaining to us?


I understand it's frustrating and upsetting, but what you're doing right now isn't going to help. Like someone said, why not reevaluate this situation in another perspective?


Yes, 90% of the time, if you're offered a drug test, you're most likely hired; just because you were offered a drug test doesnt mean you're automatically hired, granted you pass the test.

 

[jfdoom]

Originally Posted by BangDak

Why dont you network some more instead of complaining to us?


I understand it's frustrating and upsetting, but what you're doing right now isn't going to help. Like someone said, why not reevaluate this situation in another perspective?


Yes, 90% of the time, if you're offered a drug test, you're most likely hired; just because you were offered a drug test doesnt mean you're automatically hired, granted you pass the test.

Ofcourse i'm networking

Got 3 lined up for next week

I was just venting and wanted to speak on my situation..

 

[jfdoom]

Originally Posted by BangDak

Why dont you network some more instead of complaining to us?


I understand it's frustrating and upsetting, but what you're doing right now isn't going to help. Like someone said, why not reevaluate this situation in another perspective?


Yes, 90% of the time, if you're offered a drug test, you're most likely hired; just because you were offered a drug test doesnt mean you're automatically hired, granted you pass the test.

Ofcourse i'm networking

Got 3 lined up for next week

I was just venting and wanted to speak on my situation..

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by Stockholm Patriot

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

I do a hundred different things, I have one LLC and like 6 DBAs...I pay taxes on EVERYTHING and keep receipts for EVERYTHING.
Tax write-offs FTW

.


We'll chop it up in Miami bro, booked my flight and ticket this morning, I'm staying for 2 weeks

COLON-HAT, INDEED, SIR

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by Stockholm Patriot

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

lemme work for you then, bro

lol

I do a hundred different things, I have one LLC and like 6 DBAs...I pay taxes on EVERYTHING and keep receipts for EVERYTHING.
Tax write-offs FTW

.


We'll chop it up in Miami bro, booked my flight and ticket this morning, I'm staying for 2 weeks

COLON-HAT, INDEED, SIR

 

[cedric ceballos 1995 lakers]

Originally Posted by bxbadboy90

Originally Posted by villansfinest

your time was only wasted if you didn't learn anything from the experience.

if you approach the situation with a different perspective, you might not feel like you do now.



i am aware of many firms that will get everybody to the point where an offer can be extended... like, just say the word and you've got the job. however, if their first, second or third picks deny the offer (yes, some people are in a position to deny job offers) they need to be able to take their 4th choice immediately.

look at it as, you did everything right, and got to that point. it should be an achievement in itself.

QFT.. I am currently 0-5 in my last few interviews since July.  I got interviewed for a position at BJ's wholesale club and was told to come back in for a 2nd interview.  I show up to the second interview, took an assessment test, and waited another 30min to see the store manager only for him to tell me he is looking for long-term employees (I clearly stated I wanted a summer job on the application).  So I learned my lesson and decided to apply to Modells sporting goods and not tell them I was going away for school.. Went and got interviewed 2x, took a drug test, went through orientation and all.. A long time goes bye and these people decide to call me a week before I go back to school

..Yea I dnt have much luck when it comes to this.

  that's how you need to do it with these jobs.  im tryin to find something to get me through til the summer.  come summer i got a few vegas trips and another trip all planned out already, plus im going to be in new york all of august.  now i know if i let that be known in the interview i might as well just not show up for the interview at all, but if im interviewed ill tell them some bs about how i plan to be at that job for a long time and how i can really see myself being a vital asset to that company.  (most likely it's going to be a job i could care less about while i finish school)  come summer time, 2 weeks before i make my 4th of july trip  im just going to let them know the deal and if their not cool with it put my 2 weeks notice in with no hard feelings, but if their fine with it then go back and work for them in september.

 

[cedric ceballos 1995 lakers]

Originally Posted by bxbadboy90

Originally Posted by villansfinest

your time was only wasted if you didn't learn anything from the experience.

if you approach the situation with a different perspective, you might not feel like you do now.



i am aware of many firms that will get everybody to the point where an offer can be extended... like, just say the word and you've got the job. however, if their first, second or third picks deny the offer (yes, some people are in a position to deny job offers) they need to be able to take their 4th choice immediately.

look at it as, you did everything right, and got to that point. it should be an achievement in itself.

QFT.. I am currently 0-5 in my last few interviews since July.  I got interviewed for a position at BJ's wholesale club and was told to come back in for a 2nd interview.  I show up to the second interview, took an assessment test, and waited another 30min to see the store manager only for him to tell me he is looking for long-term employees (I clearly stated I wanted a summer job on the application).  So I learned my lesson and decided to apply to Modells sporting goods and not tell them I was going away for school.. Went and got interviewed 2x, took a drug test, went through orientation and all.. A long time goes bye and these people decide to call me a week before I go back to school

..Yea I dnt have much luck when it comes to this.

  that's how you need to do it with these jobs.  im tryin to find something to get me through til the summer.  come summer i got a few vegas trips and another trip all planned out already, plus im going to be in new york all of august.  now i know if i let that be known in the interview i might as well just not show up for the interview at all, but if im interviewed ill tell them some bs about how i plan to be at that job for a long time and how i can really see myself being a vital asset to that company.  (most likely it's going to be a job i could care less about while i finish school)  come summer time, 2 weeks before i make my 4th of july trip  im just going to let them know the deal and if their not cool with it put my 2 weeks notice in with no hard feelings, but if their fine with it then go back and work for them in september.

 

[reeeem0]

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Second was a systems engineer position at NBC studios. Interview went cool. Didn't know a few things but made it certain i was more than willing to learn beyond the books. Interviewer seemed to like me and set me up for my background check and drug test. Both came back clean. The outcome? They decided to hire someone within the company. Why not hire within in the first place?

geico pulled that on my cousin. buddy caught a mean wave of pissed offness, went up there with a AR and parked near the dude that did his interview. security caught em on "suspicion" because he was parked for 3 and a half hours and didnt get out the car

 

[reeeem0]

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

Second was a systems engineer position at NBC studios. Interview went cool. Didn't know a few things but made it certain i was more than willing to learn beyond the books. Interviewer seemed to like me and set me up for my background check and drug test. Both came back clean. The outcome? They decided to hire someone within the company. Why not hire within in the first place?

geico pulled that on my cousin. buddy caught a mean wave of pissed offness, went up there with a AR and parked near the dude that did his interview. security caught em on "suspicion" because he was parked for 3 and a half hours and didnt get out the car