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never understood, esp on NT, why people even give a !$#* about who believes what in regards to religionOriginally Posted by scshift
Originally Posted by sillyputty
You actually did not.
I disagree with your beliefs. You're taking it seriously.
You have not proven your substantiation and thus have no reason to assert that a god exists.
Also saying "i have my own beliefs and I choose to keep them to myself" isn't helping you. You're clearly in here posting responses. Additionally you're responding to me. And finally it doesn't matter what your beliefs are. If they are wrong or at least inaccurate then you are WILLFULLY ignorant if you refuse to gain additional understanding. You have already been shown that your thoughts are inconsistent and yet you take offense to it. Its not my problem that your god concept doesn't stand up on its own.
If no one stated what they believed in was "correct" then WHY BELIEVE IT? You're not making any sense dude.
Using this "well everyone is free to think what they want" phrase always irks me. It makes no sense. You should only follow what makes sense and what there is evidence for. Your god concept doesnt make sense. It can't even be universally applied. That alone speaks to its validity. I could say that black people are genetically more stupid than white people and as soon as you ask me for evidence I can run and claim that "i don't have to explain myself to you" because I just "believe it". You would find that to be a preposterous claim yet when it comes to religion people overlook the same logic they use to understand the world and ignore the inconsistencies of their arguments. Your responses right now are falling in that same category.
I KNOW religion isn't limited to the ones I know of...but guess what, THATS WHY I DONT FOLLOW ANY OF THEM. None of them can claim to be the absolute truth because none of them are true! Additionally how can there be 1000 different "absolute truths" about the same thing? If one is wrong then they're all wrong. And since you discredit all the others, whats the matter if I discredit yours?
You're an atheist with regards to the other 9999 gods out there. I take it one further and discount yours.
I don't "decide how I feel" that things are. I go off the evidence. I don't believe in anything that doesn't have substantial and consistent evidence. I actually care if i'm right or wrong and I spend a great deal of time trying to learn new things.
Spirituality is a crock. Its collective wishful thinking. Guess what, you may pray tonight but you know what? You'll still get up the following morning and work your tail off because you know hard work is the only thing you have to move forward in the world.
Well first of all stop typing in big block font like you're proving anything, which of course you haven't because your "religion is personal" well if its personal understand that and stop making it seem like its real. If you had proof you would have shown it already. You can't prove your god or any proof because there is none. You just believe what you want to believe.
I'm not trying to change your mind. I don't care if you walk away and become a nun or a monk or whatever. I'm addressing the inconsistencies in your arguments. The same arguments you seem so keen on NOT making.
Stop lying and saying "stop attacking me" "they're my beliefs" "respect my thoughts"...no.
I don't have to. You make claims with NO proof or evidence. Yet i'm supposed to believe you? Why should I do that? Thats the point. You are free to say ANYTHING and think you're free from explaining things. Thats just not true.
You believe in a god. I ask why. You say "because I do"...thats not a good reason bro. I ask where your evidence is. You say I don't have to show any. Well why do you believe? Because I want to. ...HUH???
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -- Carl Sagan
I take all of my arguments seriously. Don't act like you aren't taking this seriously. Are you just participating in a debate over religion cause you're bored at 10 AM?
When I first posted in this thread, I said I would not argue or defend what I believed in. I clearly went against my own words and I'd like to stick to what I originally wrote.
I'm going to leave this argument. You win this one. But I have one last question.
If you believe in what you believe in, why waste time on me? Or anyone else who believes in God? I don't mean this as a defense, but I'd like to know why you want to prove me wrong. I'm no one. My logic is flawed, my beliefs are a lie, so why waste time with me? If we're all going to die and we're all going to stay dead, why not let me live in blind ignorance until the day we both die? If you believe what you believe in, why try and prove everyone wrong? Let them be wrong, as long as you know what you know, it's all good. If you know the truth and I only know lies, why not leave me alone and let me find out when the time comes?
same could be said for sexual orientation, or why i like this team and why yours sucks
then to tell someone that what they believe is wrong and blah blah blah, get the !$#* outa here with that
we dont care wat u believe sillyputty...u tryin too hard