Wrestling Thread May 2-8 | 5/6 BOYCOTT SMACKDOWN TONIGHT - TELL @WWE YOUR THOUGHTS

[4wrestling]

LOL @ the line of McCool "leaving on good terms." Oh really? Ya think?

 

[4wrestling]

LOL @ the line of McCool "leaving on good terms." Oh really? Ya think?

 

[airthompson]

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

 

[airthompson]

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

what thompson means is that u have wwe property on your avy

even before ecw died, it was still wwe property

vince would always loan ecw cash

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

what thompson means is that u have wwe property on your avy

even before ecw died, it was still wwe property

vince would always loan ecw cash

 

[airthompson]

Originally Posted by casekicks

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

Haha I see what your sayin. But imo TNA was better before Bischoff & Hogan came. Theyre killing the product thus making a low energy WWE look better. If TNA stuck to their guns with their original product they'd be crapping on WWE right now. How did they mess up Samaoa Joe? He should be Cena, Orton caliber right now. He definately wrestles better then them both.
  

 

[airthompson]

Originally Posted by casekicks

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

-If Im not mistaken Hardy was having drug issues when he was WWE champ too and everyone knew about it, so the E did the same thing TNA did..They just did it first..
-Yes they did let RVD go, because if they valued his talent they would have done what it took to keep and make him want to stay..
-Did you really just use the "injury prone" excuse when it comes to pro wrestling?
-I will start with buried talent in WWE..Can anyone on here tell me what exactly the value of ANY wwe belt is these days?..We just got told last night that stupid Cena will basically have the title for a year so he can defend against Rock..So what message does that send to wwe's fans about the value of their "most prestigeous belt"..
-When was the last time the wwe produce someone who is a "game changer"?..Cause their ratings are in the crapper so obviously they don't have a game changer of their own or they'd be doing a hell of alot better than they are..

So why is wwe better?..Cause people don't know any better thats why..
  

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

Haha I see what your sayin. But imo TNA was better before Bischoff & Hogan came. Theyre killing the product thus making a low energy WWE look better. If TNA stuck to their guns with their original product they'd be crapping on WWE right now. How did they mess up Samaoa Joe? He should be Cena, Orton caliber right now. He definately wrestles better then them both.
  

 

[noblekane]

lol vince always taking a dump on dude. maybe he slept with his wife...

 

[noblekane]

lol vince always taking a dump on dude. maybe he slept with his wife...

 

[Case]

He highlighted the end of my post saying wwe is better cause people dont know any better..Then he said thats why you got that wwecw title on your avy, which i took to mean that I somehow didnt know any better..And i was simply saying that that is the belt i wanted and i wanted it cuz it say ecw on it, not cause it says wwe..I know it's wwe property and i have no problem supporting wwe by buying their products if it's something i like or want..and i have no problem supporting them by watching their programs if what is on that program is appealing to me..same thing goes for tna..i was just trying to point out how people constantly slam TNA, when WWE does the exact same things..So I think its kinda dumb for people to do that..Reminds me of back in the day when people would say they'd never watch WCW cause they couldnt stand the NWO and the storyline was stupid, but would turn around and say how great the DX angle was..Why don't people just say "I like Cena or Orton or Punk better than RVD, or Sting or Styles" instead of kickin' dirt on a whole company when they are pretty much alike...

 

[Case]

He highlighted the end of my post saying wwe is better cause people dont know any better..Then he said thats why you got that wwecw title on your avy, which i took to mean that I somehow didnt know any better..And i was simply saying that that is the belt i wanted and i wanted it cuz it say ecw on it, not cause it says wwe..I know it's wwe property and i have no problem supporting wwe by buying their products if it's something i like or want..and i have no problem supporting them by watching their programs if what is on that program is appealing to me..same thing goes for tna..i was just trying to point out how people constantly slam TNA, when WWE does the exact same things..So I think its kinda dumb for people to do that..Reminds me of back in the day when people would say they'd never watch WCW cause they couldnt stand the NWO and the storyline was stupid, but would turn around and say how great the DX angle was..Why don't people just say "I like Cena or Orton or Punk better than RVD, or Sting or Styles" instead of kickin' dirt on a whole company when they are pretty much alike...

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

Haha I see what your sayin. But imo TNA was better before Bischoff & Hogan came. Theyre killing the product thus making a low energy WWE look better. If TNA stuck to their guns with their original product they'd be crapping on WWE right now. How did they mess up Samaoa Joe? He should be Cena, Orton caliber right now. He definately wrestles better then them both.
  

I agree 1000000% with that statement..I only watched TNA once in a blue moon until I recently got back into wrestling..At the Lockdown PPV i got a grab bag with some older dvd's in it, and I gotta say the product now compared to even 2 years ago (which is how old the newest vid i got was) is night and day..And you are right about Joe..Dude is a beast in the ring and has really good skills on the mic, but yet he's nowhere near the HWC picture..Makes no damn sense to me..

  

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Originally Posted by casekicks

Originally Posted by AirThompson

Yea, thats why you got that WWECW title on your avy. Explains a lot. 
  

No I got that belt as my avy cause that's the belt I wanted..And I wanted it because it says ECW on it..Look Im not saying TNA is better than wwe or vice versa..What Im saying is how can people slam one product when the one they say is so much better does the same things..There are good and bad about both companies..But I guess people are more invested in wwe cause its been around for so long and TNA is much newer..I guess at the end of the day I'll still watch both, but when Cena/Orton/Miz comes on my screen I will be turning the channel..
  

Haha I see what your sayin. But imo TNA was better before Bischoff & Hogan came. Theyre killing the product thus making a low energy WWE look better. If TNA stuck to their guns with their original product they'd be crapping on WWE right now. How did they mess up Samaoa Joe? He should be Cena, Orton caliber right now. He definately wrestles better then them both.
  

I agree 1000000% with that statement..I only watched TNA once in a blue moon until I recently got back into wrestling..At the Lockdown PPV i got a grab bag with some older dvd's in it, and I gotta say the product now compared to even 2 years ago (which is how old the newest vid i got was) is night and day..And you are right about Joe..Dude is a beast in the ring and has really good skills on the mic, but yet he's nowhere near the HWC picture..Makes no damn sense to me..

  

 

[4wrestling]

Complete Monday Night Ratings Breakdown

Raw on 5/2 did a 3.43 rating and 5.19 million viewers. The show did a 3.10 in Males 18-49 and a 70% male skew, once again higher than usual when Rock is on the show. The major competition saw Dancing With the Stars at a 13.34 rating and 21.40 million viewers, and a Chicago Bulls vs. Atlanta Hawks NBA playoff game which did a 3.96 rating and 5.59 million viewers. Raw was the third most watched show on cable for the night, behind the Bulls-Hawks game that went head-to-head and the late-night Dallas Mavericks vs. Los Angeles Lakers game (4.65 rating).

In the segment-by-segment, The Rock interview segment gained 903,000 viewers in the second quarter to a 4.10 quarter. That was the highest rated second quarter in years and biggest growth in that quarter in recent memory. But from there, things fell. R-Truth attacking John Morrison and Maryse vs. Kelly Kelly lost 1,111,000 viewers, among the biggest drops in recent memory. Backstage interviews with The Miz and Alex Riley, Pau Walker, Samuel Jackson, and Rock backstage doing a party gained 75,000 viewers. John Cena vs. The Miz for the title was a flop, gaining only 32,000 viewers and finishing at a 3.43 quarter. Rey Mysterio & Kofi Kingston vs. Drew McIntyre & Jack Swagger lost 421,000 viewers. Rock backstage with the angle with Vickie Guerrero and Mae Young, plus Mason Ryan vs. Kane gained 44,000 viewers. The Rock doing his promo with Vince McMahon coming out lost 62,000 viewers to a 3.14 overrun. Mya singing the Happy Birthday to end the show gained 127,000 viewers to a 3.23.

There is something very telling about those numbers. I think what is says is no one personality, no matter how great, can be the focal point of a two hour show and in so many segments without them losing drawing power at some point. On the exact same show, within two hours, Rock did the greatest second quarter and second quarter growth in recent memory, and then had one of the worst overrun segments. But by that time he had been on countless times.

Tough Enough on 5/2 did another 1.72 rating and 2.44 million viewers, so the numbers are now holding steady at that range. It’s a full point below the NCIS reruns that were in the time slot, and below the prime time average on USA, but at least it’s not continuing to drop. The Tough Enough replay after Raw did a 0.92 rating and 1.39 million viewers.

 

[4wrestling]

Complete Monday Night Ratings Breakdown

Raw on 5/2 did a 3.43 rating and 5.19 million viewers. The show did a 3.10 in Males 18-49 and a 70% male skew, once again higher than usual when Rock is on the show. The major competition saw Dancing With the Stars at a 13.34 rating and 21.40 million viewers, and a Chicago Bulls vs. Atlanta Hawks NBA playoff game which did a 3.96 rating and 5.59 million viewers. Raw was the third most watched show on cable for the night, behind the Bulls-Hawks game that went head-to-head and the late-night Dallas Mavericks vs. Los Angeles Lakers game (4.65 rating).

In the segment-by-segment, The Rock interview segment gained 903,000 viewers in the second quarter to a 4.10 quarter. That was the highest rated second quarter in years and biggest growth in that quarter in recent memory. But from there, things fell. R-Truth attacking John Morrison and Maryse vs. Kelly Kelly lost 1,111,000 viewers, among the biggest drops in recent memory. Backstage interviews with The Miz and Alex Riley, Pau Walker, Samuel Jackson, and Rock backstage doing a party gained 75,000 viewers. John Cena vs. The Miz for the title was a flop, gaining only 32,000 viewers and finishing at a 3.43 quarter. Rey Mysterio & Kofi Kingston vs. Drew McIntyre & Jack Swagger lost 421,000 viewers. Rock backstage with the angle with Vickie Guerrero and Mae Young, plus Mason Ryan vs. Kane gained 44,000 viewers. The Rock doing his promo with Vince McMahon coming out lost 62,000 viewers to a 3.14 overrun. Mya singing the Happy Birthday to end the show gained 127,000 viewers to a 3.23.

There is something very telling about those numbers. I think what is says is no one personality, no matter how great, can be the focal point of a two hour show and in so many segments without them losing drawing power at some point. On the exact same show, within two hours, Rock did the greatest second quarter and second quarter growth in recent memory, and then had one of the worst overrun segments. But by that time he had been on countless times.

Tough Enough on 5/2 did another 1.72 rating and 2.44 million viewers, so the numbers are now holding steady at that range. It’s a full point below the NCIS reruns that were in the time slot, and below the prime time average on USA, but at least it’s not continuing to drop. The Tough Enough replay after Raw did a 0.92 rating and 1.39 million viewers.

 

[4wrestling]

WWE Receiving Tons of Negative Feedback

--Without giving away the spoiler, there is a ton of negative feedback directed to WWE on the decision, to the point it has shocked those in the company the vehemence of it.

Keep pounding that @WWE twitter!!!

 

[4wrestling]

WWE Receiving Tons of Negative Feedback

--Without giving away the spoiler, there is a ton of negative feedback directed to WWE on the decision, to the point it has shocked those in the company the vehemence of it.

Keep pounding that @WWE twitter!!!

 

[Case]

Makes me wanna make a twitter account just so I can send em some e-hate over this whole situation..

 

[Case]

Makes me wanna make a twitter account just so I can send em some e-hate over this whole situation..

 

[furrell]

There definitely won't be a next season of Tough Enough at this point. GE is losing money with them in that time slot.

 

[furrell]

There definitely won't be a next season of Tough Enough at this point. GE is losing money with them in that time slot.

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

we should all send them email on how they continue forcing cena and orton down our throats

while more deserving, better talents like cm punk and christian have to deal with all this bull

if tna does indeed commit to actually focus on wrestling and stop with the stupid storylines, it will be easy to jump ship