XBOX GAMING THREAD | PHIL TRUE 4K

E3 Game of Show

  • Forza 7

    Votes: 7 7.1%
  • Anthem

    Votes: 12 12.1%
  • Monster Hunter World

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Marvel Vs. Capcom

    Votes: 9 9.1%
  • State of Decay 2

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Cuphead

    Votes: 8 8.1%
  • Call of Duty 2k18

    Votes: 13 13.1%
  • Battlefront 2

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Crackdown 3

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Far Cry 5

    Votes: 10 10.1%
  • Evil Within 2

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wolfenstein 2

    Votes: 6 6.1%
  • Metro Exodus

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Destiny 2

    Votes: 6 6.1%
  • Beyond Good and Evil 2

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dragon Ball Fighter Z

    Votes: 20 20.2%
  • Code Vein

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Sea of Thieves

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Southpark 2

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Kingdom Hearts 3

    Votes: 10 10.1%

  • Total voters
    99
Why would you believe game sharing was going to happen? MS announced it after they killed the DRM policy, if it such a killer feature why did take them forever to announce, and to announce it in a press release of what features we lost.

Currently MS (Terms of Service) bans people for game sharing

That's not true.
 
Why would you believe game sharing was going to happen? MS announced it after they killed the DRM policy, if it such a killer feature why did take them forever to announce, and to announce it in a press release of what features we lost.

Currently MS (Terms of Service) bans people for game sharing

That's not true.

He's going to come back and say everything that's wrong with the world is the xbox ones fault. So tired of people that claim they have no interest in a product continuously obsessing about something they don't want.
 
I highly doubt M$ was gonna let 1 person buy a game for 10 people and let all 10 ppl play the game at the same time, with no exclusions... This the same company who you have to pay to browse the internet, forces you to buy a chargeable battery, etc.
 
Why would you believe game sharing was going to happen? MS announced it after they killed the DRM policy, if it such a killer feature why did take them forever to announce, and to announce it in a press release of what features we lost.

Currently MS (Terms of Service) bans people for game sharing

I can't believe there are STILL misinformed people, months after the whole debacle.

The family sharing policy was in the official website waaay before they killed the drm. Dig through the Xbox One reveal thread if you want proof.

People would say "no way m$ is gonna let you share games with 10 people."

Couple weeks ago, Steam releases the Beta for this exact same feature.

Oh but, there is no way developers will let them get away with it right?

Wrong.

For years Steam has been giving PC owners amazing deals for AAA games. Now not only are they getting the same games we are for a whole lot less than retail, they will also be able to share each game in their library, one at a time.

Smh, what could have been.
 
actually a few days ago I was trying to get the latest information in regards to what I have read and heard from the E3 show, hence the reason why my questions where specific.  ... Knowing is one thing, trying to see what changed is another ...
 
lmao .. you are pretty lame .....
 
in regards to being digital or not, that's not a problem to me ... as long as you are able to downloaded to any console you log in without restriction - which is what Microsoft was trying to establish with the hard copies - imagen with digital .. there will be no point in having a console, all you'll need is a joystick for your computer  .. the reason why gaming consoles thrived was because of the portability and the being able to play your games anywhere unlike the computers ..... now shhhhh .... leave this for the grown ups .. smh!

Since someone reported me and got my post deleted, I'll say it again for you...

With their original policies, you would have been able to play any of your games by logging into your account on any Xbox One.
 
why's it hard to believe people are still confused about microsoft polices?  They've changed it up quite a few times, the average consumer wasn't tuning into E3 or Gamescom.  And the Xbox Ones shown at those two conferences were completely different.  
 
I'm not talking about being able to play your game in 10 different consoles I'm talking about renting games and people having to pay just so they can play this rented games or borrowing games from your friends and having to pay to play those games so what are you talking about?

I am a Xbox fan the problem is the Xbox is f****** us over by f****** doing s*** that ps is better at. Like why not rechargeable controllers?
 
Why would you believe game sharing was going to happen? MS announced it after they killed the DRM policy, if it such a killer feature why did take them forever to announce, and to announce it in a press release of what features we lost.

Currently MS (Terms of Service) bans people for game sharing

I can't believe there are STILL misinformed people, months after the whole debacle.

The family sharing policy was in the official website waaay before they killed the drm. Dig through the Xbox One reveal thread if you want proof.

People would say "no way m$ is gonna let you share games with 10 people."

Couple weeks ago, Steam releases the Beta for this exact same feature.

Oh but, there is no way developers will let them get away with it right?

Wrong.

For years Steam has been giving PC owners amazing deals for AAA games. Now not only are they getting the same games we are for a whole lot less than retail, they will also be able to share each game in their library, one at a time.

Smh, what could have been.

There's no real difference in what Steam announced recenty and what you could do FOR YEARS with anyone's account if you had their password. The only thing different they implemented is that you can share them without the other person needing a password. You still can't play at the same time, you just get a nice 5 minute warning to log off or the account holder is gonna boot you off.

How anyone thinks this is something new and revolutionary I don't understand.
 
I'm not talking about being able to play your game in 10 different consoles I'm talking about renting games and people having to pay just so they can play this rented games or borrowing games from your friends and having to pay to play those games so what are you talking about?

I am a Xbox fan the problem is the Xbox is f****** us over by f****** doing s*** that ps is better at. Like why not rechargeable controllers?

I'm going to need a lot more clarification before I even attempt to address that.
 
There's no real difference in what Steam announced recenty and what you could do FOR YEARS with anyone's account if you had their password. The only thing different they implemented is that you can share them without the other person needing a password. You still can't play at the same time, you just get a nice 5 minute warning to log off or the account holder is gonna boot you off.

How anyone thinks this is something new and revolutionary I don't understand.

Share password?

I don't know about you but, i wouldn't want someone to have access to my credit card just to share a game, but thanks for the tip!:x

Also, doesn't it work like that with discs? If i let Johnny borrow my GTA5, will i be able to play it in my house? If i want to play it and i tell him, hey johnny give me my GTA5, will he be able to play it?
 
There's no real difference in what Steam announced recenty and what you could do FOR YEARS with anyone's account if you had their password. The only thing different they implemented is that you can share them without the other person needing a password. You still can't play at the same time, you just get a nice 5 minute warning to log off or the account holder is gonna boot you off.

How anyone thinks this is something new and revolutionary I don't understand.

Share password?

I don't know about you but, i wouldn't want someone to have access to my credit card just to share a game, but thanks for the tip!:x

You never had to have a credit card stored on your steam account... :rolleyes

You're welcome for the tip. You could have been using this function back in 2006. Guess you missed out.

The technology isn't new, stripping the password protection and adding the 5 minute window could have been done from launch. Steam did it as a PR move after the Microsoft debacle and are also using it for advanced data mining about player habits. I'm not saying the plan wasn't in place within the Steam framework before the DRM debacle but they certainly used it to catapult this "new" feature.
 
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wow.

people still report people for disagreeing and what not? I miss the glory days of NT.

If you don't like what people say, Google is readily accessible.

With that said I'm really looking forward to the release... Pretty excited about the possibilities and playing BF4, Titanfall, and others. I know there is doubt and whatever the case, but I haven't played it. Haven't used it for anything, so I will reserve my judgements on anything until I get first hand gameplay and such. Ton of extra features I'm pretty excited for as well.

It will reach it's heights in 2-3 years anyway when Those games come out. I rarely post in here because everyone wants to piss and moan but for those who contribute positively it's appreciated brehs.[/COLOR]
 
You never had to have a credit card stored on your steam account... :rolleyes

You're welcome for the tip. You could have been using this function back in 2006. Guess you missed out.

The technology isn't new, stripping the password protection and adding the 5 minute window could have been done from launch. Steam did it as a PR move after the Microsoft debacle and are also using it for advanced data mining about player habits. I'm not saying the plan wasn't in place within the Steam framework before the DRM debacle but they certainly used it to catapult this "new" feature.

I'm not giving my account info to 5-10 people.

Nobody would want to do that, with or without CC access, especially on consoles. Deal with it.

So yes, this convenience IS new and revolutionary. Even more on consoles.

Really? They would spend money on the research and development for this feature just for PR? Yeah, ok.

Does Steam even have Public Relations? I would of had no idea who Valve was and what Steam is if i wouldn't have gone out of my way and researched PC gaming myself.

I bet your compadre, Keko Jones, who can't even type a paragraph properly, has no idea what we're talking about.
 
I guess I have to read the last page or so to find out why hybrid is being a ***** and crying in the ps4 thread. People take this console warz stuff to seriously
 
You guys are complete idiots looking for the most basic of reasons to argue against a concept that's far beyond your simple comprehension.

You would add the gamertags that you wanted to share games with. You wouldn't have had to give anybody your user/pass.
 
You guys are complete idiots looking for the most basic of reasons to argue against a concept that's far beyond your simple comprehension.

You would add the gamertags that you wanted to share games with. You wouldn't have had to give anybody your user/pass.

theyre arguing over that? I thought it was obvious that only a user could add others to their "family"
 
I'm going to need a lot more clarification before I even attempt to address that.
What clarification do you need?

You keep talking about playing your game up to 10 different consoles .. why should their be a limit?

Furthermore - the initial announcement stated that if you buy used games or wanted to borrow a game from a friend or whatever, you would have to pay an additional fee to play those games. So, wow you can play your game in 10 different consoles, but you can't play 10 other games you borrow, rented, or bought pre-used without paying an additional fee. 

So, ok .. yeah .. I guess that was good with you!

so yeah, glad people ***** and got that removed ... it might of have come a little to late as many people to include me bolted after hearing that ish .. that's why I came back asking specific questions about the policies I didn't agree with .. but you trying to clown that I just learned about them .. buahahaha joke!
 
What clarification do you need?

You keep talking about playing your game up to 10 different consoles .. why should their be a limit?

Furthermore - the initial announcement stated that if you buy used games or wanted to borrow a game from a friend or whatever, you would have to pay an additional fee to play those games. So, wow you can play your game in 10 different consoles, but you can't play 10 other games you borrow, rented, or bought pre-used without paying an additional fee. 

So, ok .. yeah .. I guess that was good with you!

so yeah, glad people ***** and got that removed ... it might of have come a little to late as many people to include me bolted after hearing that ish .. that's why I came back asking specific questions about the policies I didn't agree with .. but you trying to clown that I just learned about them .. buahahaha joke!

Just stop posting bro, its for your own good.

There is so much wrong in this post that if someone who is informed would try to argue, they wouldn't even know where to begin.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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Just stop posting bro, its for your own good.

There is so much wrong in this post that if someone who is informed would try to argue, they wouldn't even know where to begin.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
lol .... really?

Here’s where things start to get complicated. Whether or not the Xbox One would play used games was one of the biggest questions heading into the event, and one that wasn’t addressed during the presentation. It was asked a million times by the press afterward, but Microsoft still isn’t giving out a full spectrum of details.

The short answer is yes, the Xbox One will play used games.

The long answer is a bit more complex. All Xbox One games must be installed to the hard drive, either through digital download or the disc itself. That allows easy access to titles without disc switching, but it also causes complications. If you buy a physical disc and want to say, loan it a friend, they’ll have to pay an unlock fee to get the game to work on their system with their account. There’s no word on either how much this fee would be, or how many times you could do this with one disc. If the fee is small enough, $10 or so, it would allow people to essentially clone games for cheap. But if it’s expensive, like $30, then that really puts a damper on sharing altogether.  Microsoft HAS clarified that if you play a game on a friend’s Xbox using YOUR account, a sharing fee is not required. But if you loan it to them to play on their own account, there would be.

And also what’s clear is that buying a used game will likely come with this same additional fee, meaning the era of uber cheap used games where Gamestop makes 100% pure profit is likely over. Sony  so far has refused to comment on their own system for used games, but speculation is that it’s similar to MIcrosoft, and the two will stand united on this front.

On top of all of this, Microsoft says they’re still not releasing all their plans about game swapping and sharing and resale. “We’ll have more details to share later,” they say, but in the meantime, it’s apparent that the definition of what a “used game” is has changed dramatically.

Update:  There seems to be some indication that this unlock fee might actually be the  full retail price of the game. That’s certainly what it sounds like from what Phil Harrison is saying here. If that’s the case, then how exactly do “used games” even exist at that point? This is only making things more opaque.

BTW, are you following why are we arguing about this? Is not because it hasn't change, its because I asked a simple question which was answer. Then someone said something along the lines that if we keep *****ing and standing up for this type of issh that there would be no progress. Then a few people along with me said, but yet we have been progressing, so how was it so. In addition, most of the **** propose was infringing in your personal liberties ... so on so on ... then someone try to check me about not knowing a day ago and now I'm an expert and now this ... so please ...

anyways, once again - how was my post wrong?
 
This guy just took an article from May to try and reinforce his non-point. :rollin
 
This guy just took an article from May to try and reinforce his non-point.
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You really must be a ...

there point here was 

1. I came in here asking questions that turned me off about the Xbox One at E3

2. People answer the questions just fine

3. I stated that I was glad that all the dumb **** like the fee, kinect, checking in, etc was done with and I'm glad that Microsoft hear all the people *****ing and reconsider.

4. Someone said something along the lines that people ***** about progression.

5. A few people said, funny, that the gaming has been progressing just fine

6. I stated that how someone would like any of these rules I the paying a fee to play used games.

this is where it gets interesting.

7. You but in and tell me that I didnt know **** yesterday and I wanted to school people.

8  I laughed.

9. you said that people could play up to 10 different consoles their own game (no one was questioning this)

10. I said its not about the 10 consoles you can play, but the **** you can't play without paying the fee that I was against.

11. your clown *** comes in here telling me I'm wrong and you get support.

12. I get the article to support what I was saying.

No one one is saying this is still in effect -  I'm saying Im glad they did again with this **** ..

hahahah come on dude! this is a non-point but you are talking about the 10 consoles you can play ... you sound pretty stupid!
 
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Keko Jones,

You posted a blog/article someone who was also as confused as you wrote ages ago.

I'm only going to comment on the first line of your prior post. There is no way i'm going to dissect that confusing/false post you made.

You keep talking about playing your game up to 10 different consoles .. why should their be a limit?

I have no idea how you got this idea or what you actually intended to communicate to us.

Microsoft's original plan was to create an all digital future. Some policies still stand, some don't.

The one that is still active is being able to access your digital downloads on any Xbox. Don't feel like taking your games to a buddy's house? Just sign in to your account on your friend's Xbox and access your whole library. There is no limit to how many Xbox Ones you can do this on. The policy that was axed was the sharing plan. Each user would have been able to create a "Family" list. In this list you can add up to 10 friends and each can access your library of saved games, one at a time.

See? i had to type a whole dam paragraph just to try to correct your first argument........don't expect another reply from me.
 
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