XXXTENTACION shot and killed in Broward County

Charlamagne is in media. He is a tv personality. I’m not sure when the definition of troll changed, but sharing your opinion is not trolling.Trolling is calling TMZ to come film you taking an enemy’s baby mother shopping not speaking ones mind.

And why can’t he be the one to try and speak out and save these kids from making idiotic decisions? The rest of the media loves to see these guys beef and act a fool so someone needs to be the voice of reason.
Char is my dude, but come on man. You know he pushes buttons. You know he gossips like a housewife. It is more than just sharing an opinion man. I am SURE you know this

But he CAN (and HAS) been speaking out about folks chilling out with the trolling, but coming from HIM, I am not sure how effective it will be
 
Thats the dynamics of todays society. Everything must be done for the approval of others.
Today's society? I'm almost certain it's always been like this. Rewind time to the 90s, good luck making it as a rapper if you don't got heavy jewlery on and backing by a gang. Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane (80's) were flossed out, Supreme backed and financed Eric B & Rakim and they were also flossed out. Big Pun only got on because the ppl Fat Joe ran with green lighted to finance the start of his career (and obviously muscle & etc). And yes, it being a requirement to having to be fly is definitely approval from others / validation. Ppl weren't getting on just because they were nice on the mic or whatever. It wasn't solely because they were talented. As much good that 2pac did for society, he was also a loose cannon wilding out, and as everybody knows, drew mad attention as a result... both good and bad.
 
Today's society? I'm almost certain it's always been like this. Rewind time to the 90s, good luck making it as a rapper if you don't got heavy jewlery on and backing by a gang. Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane (80's) were flossed out, Supreme backed and financed Eric B & Rakim and they were also flossed out. Big Pun only got on because the ppl Fat Joe ran with green lighted to finance the start of his career (and obviously muscle & etc). And yes, it being a requirement to having to be fly is definitely approval from others / validation. Ppl weren't getting on just because they were nice on the mic or whatever. It wasn't solely because they were talented. As much good that 2pac did for society, he was also a loose cannon wilding out, and as everybody knows, drew mad attention as a result... both good and bad.
I agree. People don't change, technology does. Humans TODAY as just as ego-centric as they were in 1992.
 
Today's society? I'm almost certain it's always been like this. Rewind time to the 90s, good luck making it as a rapper if you don't got heavy jewlery on and backing by a gang. Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane (80's) were flossed out, Supreme backed and financed Eric B & Rakim and they were also flossed out. Big Pun only got on because the ppl Fat Joe ran with green lighted to finance the start of his career (and obviously muscle & etc). And yes, it being a requirement to having to be fly is definitely approval from others / validation. Ppl weren't getting on just because they were nice on the mic or whatever. It wasn't solely because they were talented. As much good that 2pac did for society, he was also a loose cannon wilding out, and as everybody knows, drew mad attention as a result... both good and bad.
I hear you but it is different now in a sense where it’s 24/7 365 constant needing of attention and approval. That simply wasn’t the case back then. That attention seeking is also brought on at a much earlier age.
 
Kinda full circle. Drug dealer era created the drug dependent babies, drug user era fueled their addiction.


*not strictly 100% of course, I know it's a generalization and oversimplification.
Entertainment has changed too. These fake dudes and “artists” would be laughed at and boo’d off stage never to be seen again. This era is all in for the trolling and ridiculous. In an attempt to one up the next guy these idiots have taken it to the point where they’re getting killed over it
 
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Dude music was defintely creative.

That video that was posted showing him giving out gifts to the foster home really inspired me.
 
Yeah it would be disingenuous to discount the amplification of attention seeking in this era.
Different kind on attention too. This isn’t the approval of your big brother or your boys, this is the need for MORE and different people to give you props. There really is no comparison between this generation and any other that preceded it
 
In my initial post (not the one you quoted), i made a few points. One of them was:

His death isn't karma nor retaliation—

It's just a murder/robbery. The people that killed him didn't have intentions of "we're avenging your ex-girl.

I believe that any action you make, especially a bad one, be prepared for the worst, for that action. So yeah, if I abuse somebody and get pulverized for it... I deserved it, but for THAT action only. If I abused somebody, but the next day I'm walking on the sidewalk and some white guy kills me because I took a shortcut through his suburbs and he doesnt like color ppl... Then that's an unrelated event. You don't say "oh karma gotchu" .. no. karma actually didnt get me, because i got bodied due to racism, not because im a terrible person.

furthermore, if the victim i abused the day prior heard of the news, that i died due to racism... does she even feel good? does she celebrate? does she even get her peace? is that what she wanted? i know it's a case-by-case situation, but more often I tend to hear that the victims want a face to face and want the abuser to acknowledge what they did wrong for real, apologize, and pay the price. in a sense they need "closure" and i doubt that xxxtentacion's victim right now is receiving that "closure." maybe im completely wrong, but i really don't think so.



so to answer your question,
if a victim takes it upon their own hands, yes i do think they should do whatever they have to to get back at their abuser.

if they go a different route, like through the law or whatever, then that's the route they take. in that case, the abuser pays the price according to the law of the land, and hopefully they come out better and learn to be sympathetic and have the character to devote their lives to the cause after that. if they don't, then they're just a piece of sh, esp if they continue their behavior... they'll only get into more trouble.
I have to disagree with most of this.

Bottom line, I know people that have been victimized and their assailant down the road have been murder in a totally unrelated circumstances and the victims are not only relieved but are also happy he wont be doing it to them or anyone else.

If I was victimized when I was young and couldn't defend myself, I can give two ****s if the person was totally reformed and a role model citizen, he robbed me of my youth and life. If he falls and breaks his neck, got gun down because of his race religion or whatever, it was an accident, no matter how you slice it, he's dead and I'm happy. One wrong cant be undue by some rights.

These kids that are shooting up schools are robbing the parents, siblings, families, friends and even the community of not only the victims but psychologically as well. They might never recover ... you think a judicial system and reform is going to undue all the harm? **** that .. if they go to jail and get gang rape and murder because they were cute not because of their crime, so beat it.

This is not about Karma, is simply about not having any sympathy for someone that has wronged people in the passed. Of course I cant say I dont see your point of view ... people can genuinely change and some of their crimes aren't serious in others eyes to warrant death, but if someone can live and forget I dont blame them for not giving two **** about how dude got murked.

Just saying ..
 
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No. Tupac was actually setup, this guy was just asking for it.
Stop.

He stomped out a gang member on some gang stuff he had no business taking part in.

Sad to say, but Pac was asking for it too.
 
I hear you but it is different now in a sense where it’s 24/7 365 constant needing of attention and approval. That simply wasn’t the case back then. That attention seeking is also brought on at a much earlier age.
I see where you're coming from in that regards, I believe that to be due to everything being so accessible and instantaneous.
I have to disagree with most of this.

Bottom line, I know people that have been victimized and their assailant down the road have been murder in a totally unrelated circumstances and the victims are not only relieved but are also happy he wont be doing it to them or anyone else.

If I was victimized when I was young and couldn't defend myself, I can give two ****s if the person was totally reformed and a role model citizen, he robbed me of my youth and life. If he falls and breaks his neck, got gun down because of his race religion or whatever, it was an accident, no matter how you slice it, he's dead and I'm happy. One wrong cant be undue by some rights.

These kids that are shooting up schools are robbing the parents, siblings, families, friends and even the community of not only the victims but psychologically as well. They might never recover ... you think a judicial system and reform is going to undue all the harm? **** that .. if they go to jail and get gang rape and murder because they were cute not because of their crime, so beat it.

This is not about Karma, is simply about not having any sympathy for someone that has wronged people in the passed. Of course I cant say I dont see your point of view ... people can genuinely change and some of their crimes aren't serious in others eyes to warrant death, but if someone can live and forget I dont blame them for not giving two **** about how dude got murked.

Just saying ..

well, she just sent out a couple of tweets in the past hour, and im not dismissing what you're saying, because everything that we say do not apply to 100% of victims, and the perspectives we are speaking about are both true and exist,

but in this case, it doesn't seem to fit the perspective you're talking about..

her recent tweets:





her IG posts in the past 24 hrs:






edit: all this **** is really sad, this is why i dont like when ppl gotta chime in on ppl's deaths like "he deserved it" when they weren't bodied in retaliation to a situation, they being bodied for something COMPLETELY different... i hope SHE finds her peace, and i really hope she doesn't do anything bad
 
I heard like 3 songs, and not gonna front they aight.

Haven't heard or paid attention about 6ix9ine though, how is he worse than XXX, if someone is worse than that...

Song with him and BADA$$ from his last project.
 
What did he do? I don't keep up with the f**kery that is modern day hip hop. He put out diss tracks or something?
Walking around Chicago taunting a whole state full of real killers. Meanwhile being escorted around town by the Chicago pd super clown. :smh:

Most of these new age rappers are pretty much teaching our kids to practice female like movements, & to dress flagrant and act ignorant
 
edit: all this **** is really sad, this is why i dont like when ppl gotta chime in on ppl's deaths like "he deserved it" when they weren't bodied in retaliation to a situation, they being bodied for something COMPLETELY different... i hope SHE finds her peace, and i really hope she doesn't do anything bad
I genuinely don't understand why people have to take the conversation any further than it being sad that a 20 year old died.
 
I see where you're coming from in that regards, I believe that to be due to everything being so accessible and instantaneous.


well, she just sent out a couple of tweets in the past hour, and im not dismissing what you're saying, because everything that we say do not apply to 100% of victims, and the perspectives we are speaking about are both true and exist,

but in this case, it doesn't seem to fit the perspective you're talking about..

her recent tweets:





her IG posts in the past 24 hrs:






edit: all this **** is really sad, this is why i dont like when ppl gotta chime in on ppl's deaths like "he deserved it" when they weren't bodied in retaliation to a situation, they being bodied for something COMPLETELY different... i hope SHE finds her peace, and i really hope she doesn't do anything bad

Man, that's not really saying much. There are a bunch of victimized woman out there that are mentally enslaved. They can be a victim of severe domestic violence and if you try to intervene, they'll come at you. So, I understand where shes coming from.

This just further strengthens my claims that some people just dont need to be role models. Many kids and girls are looking at this situation and accepting the fact that getting beat on is OK. Whether those where their intentions or not, this can lead to someone we might never know about getting killed because they saw this type of behaviour and seen it was ok. The same thing about him almost murdering someone because his homophobia, now how many people have had to deal with kids that idolize XXX beating on them?

So while looking at just a small portion and superficially people shouldn't be happy about his death, looking at a bigger picture, some of these people might have been dealing with bigger issues and potentially caused by XXX .

So again this chick reacting on feelings have little bearing to what's being said. I'm not happy he died, but I definitely can see why people dont have pity and others are relieved.
 
I genuinely don't understand why people have to take the conversation any further than it being sad that a 20 year old died.

Gospel :lol:

Like...you don't HAVE to give your emotions to this. You don't have to **** on the kid...nor do you have to offer your sympathy.

Every time this happens, NT jumps into a revolving circle of back and forths based on a)bunch of empty well wishes and b)those people getting mad at the "he deserved it" crowd. From my POV, ****** get shot everyday B. I'm only here to talk about this young man and this situation in regards to what it means in pop culture.
 
I genuinely don't understand why people have to take the conversation any further than it being sad that a 20 year old died.
Because his age doesn't matter and some people dont glorify bad people. And why not take the conversation further? I mean, a lot of people can agree that if you live a certain lifestyle there are consequences, so why not use it as a teaching tool?

This ain't taboo, people have difference of opinions and just because is a black 20 y/o kid doesn't excuse anything .....

If there was a 20 y/o white boy that brutally beat a black guy and then was killed unrelated to that incident, I bet the narrative would be much different than sad he was only 20.

Ya need to just be open minded and real ....
 
Man, that's not really saying much. There are a bunch of victimized woman out there that are mentally enslaved. They can be a victim of severe domestic violence and if you try to intervene, they'll come at you. So, I understand where shes coming from.

This just further strengthens my claims that some people just dont need to be role models. Many kids and girls are looking at this situation and accepting the fact that getting beat on is OK. Whether those where their intentions or not, this can lead to someone we might never know about getting killed because they saw this type of behaviour and seen it was ok. The same thing about him almost murdering someone because his homophobia, now how many people have had to deal with kids that idolize XXX beating on them?

So while looking at just a small portion and superficially people shouldn't be happy about his death, looking at a bigger picture, some of these people might have been dealing with bigger issues and potentially caused by XXX .

So again this chick reacting on feelings have little bearing to what's being said. I'm not happy he died, but I definitely can see why people dont have pity and others are relieved.

nobody's opinion on whether an abuser deserved it or not matters except for the victims'.

anyway, i just hope she doesn't kill herself, and can find the strength (and resources) to get help.
 
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