What you mean by serious noise though. I really don't think they're gonna get to the WCF's or anything, but I think they'll make the playoffs and threaten past the first round. I wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the second round...
Exactly. They're already better than the Hornets. He makes everyone around him better. This team can sneak into the 2nd and maybe 3rd round if matched up against the right teams.
The Knicks look like they could make some noise too back when they had all of those scorers.Originally Posted by StillAtIt
Serious? Blake Griffin and CP3 alone make noise.
Chris Paul
Eric Gordon
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
Deandre Jordan
That lineup doesn't make noise to you? Cmon man.
That unprotected pick belongs to Minnesota by the way. It's definitely a lottery pick. Probably top 5. Clippers trolling the Lakers
Originally Posted by blackxme
What the hell is wrong with the Hornets?! They are really overestimating the worth of CP3. He's great no doubt but they want a complete squad for the guy.
CP3 still had a top 10-12 PF in West and a defensive center in Okafor. Ariza and Butler is like comparing apples to oranges until I see how well Butler performs post injury. Gordon is the main upgrade in terms of Paul switching teams.
Foye/Aminu/Bledsoe/Kaman+picks (if they have them) is better than ANYTHING New York could offer.
I assume if the Clippers are pushing for Paul, they'd rather keep Griffin and Gordon to add to that nucleus.
To LAC:
Chris Paul
To NOH:
Chris Kaman
Eric Bledsoe
Al-Farouq Aminu
Multiple first-round picks
Me and CripWalkin called this 10 days ago.
The biggest obstacle will be if Stern rejects this though.
Peep the edit.Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
The Knicks look like they could make some noise too back when they had all of those scorers.Originally Posted by StillAtIt
Serious? Blake Griffin and CP3 alone make noise.
Chris Paul
Eric Gordon
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
Deandre Jordan
That lineup doesn't make noise to you? Cmon man.
That unprotected pick belongs to Minnesota by the way. It's definitely a lottery pick. Probably top 5. Clippers trolling the Lakers
Its all about fit. Butler doesn't fit with that squad. You have so much more to factor into a team being a serious contender in this league than just looking at the starting five. What about their defense? Bench play? Maturity of Griffin and Jordan? Who are their big men after Griffin and Jordan?
They do have Paul though and he's capable of making anything happen barring injury. The only thing I really don't like is Butler with that team. Players are going to have to figure out their roles quick.
I assume if the Clippers are pushing for Paul, they'd rather keep Griffin and Gordon to add to that nucleus.
To LAC:
Chris Paul
To NOH:
Chris Kaman
Eric Bledsoe
Al-Farouq Aminu
Multiple first-round picks
Me and CripWalkin called this 10 days ago.
The biggest obstacle will be if Stern rejects this though.
if stern rejects this, i could see teams eventually not even bothering to deal with the league owned hornets and just try and sign chris paul in the offseason. if stern rejects this potential trade i could see teams looking at dealing with stern and company as more trouble then what its worth.
I don't think any tandem is more talented than LeBron/Wade, but that's why the games are played.
The core is great, but I'm still trying to figure out how long Paul stays. Any news on whether he picks up the PO yet so they can get at least two years with him?Originally Posted by StillAtIt
Peep the edit.Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
The Knicks look like they could make some noise too back when they had all of those scorers.Originally Posted by StillAtIt
Serious? Blake Griffin and CP3 alone make noise.
Chris Paul
Eric Gordon
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
Deandre Jordan
That lineup doesn't make noise to you? Cmon man.
That unprotected pick belongs to Minnesota by the way. It's definitely a lottery pick. Probably top 5. Clippers trolling the Lakers
Its all about fit. Butler doesn't fit with that squad. You have so much more to factor into a team being a serious contender in this league than just looking at the starting five. What about their defense? Bench play? Maturity of Griffin and Jordan? Who are their big men after Griffin and Jordan?
They do have Paul though and he's capable of making anything happen barring injury. The only thing I really don't like is Butler with that team. Players are going to have to figure out their roles quick.
What do you mean? Butler fits perfectly. He plays damn good defense. He can score from the post and mid range. He can hit the 3. Probably not as well as last year, but still. I think you're underrating him a bit.
Defense? Paul, Gordon, and Butler will handle the perimeter better than most teams. Jordan cleans up down low.Their weakest link on D in the starting lineup is Blake.
The bench admittedly needs work. But Mo Williams and Randy Foye off the bench at the guard spots is a decent start. Obviously they need to fill out the roster (backup C most importantly) and replace VDN as head coach. But they have a GREAT core. The rest will come with time. They won't be winning a ship this year, but to say they won't make noise is crazy.
Exactly. Sometimes you have to suffer to be good again, it's very rare that teams are mediocre then suddenly become a contender. Sam Mitchell was talking about it the other night on GameTime, basically saying that being in the middle of the pack is the worse position you can be in, because those picks are terrible, and you're doomed to stay mediocre.
