ââ 2012 NBA Finals ââ The King has been crowned; Heat win 2012 NBA Finals! Bron Finals MVP.
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Wow.
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Dominique was just an army brat he definitely isn't an international player.
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Dominique was just an army brat he definitely isn't an international player.
Right. Since when does being an army brat qualify for being an "international player"?
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So you bring up Nash and I mention Ewing but those two names don't get called out for no rings? IDK I'm not gonna argue with you, I'm not gonna respond to a page long letter. It's not a difference of ranking that's so great that I'd be offended at how you'd rank Pau lower. That's just how I'd rank em.
Ewing and Nash don't have similar resumes. That's the reason I was comparing Manu and Pau, since they're both strong international presence, and were key pieces to helping win rings for the Spurs and Lakers respectively. Ewing and Nash ever do anything significant in the Olympics?
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[h1]Clippers' trade of Draft pick looking good, thanks to Wolves[/h1]
Posted Feb 1 2012 11:54AM
The Clippers catch another break. Typical. Everything always goes right for them.
Just when the Chris Paul blockbuster trade couldn't be any more of a win -- the credibility it brought, the marketing boost, the rise in the standings -- along come the Timberwolves. They are a developing story of their own, and that's working out perfectly for the Clippers.
These two teams' connection in the 2012 Draft had been years in coming. A previous general manager in Minnesota made a deal with a previous general manager in Los Angeles, and everyone was about to live with it, for better or worse, seven years later. Sam Cassell and a future first-round pick to the Clippers, Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers to the Timberwolves. That was on Aug. 12, 2005.
The first-round pick was for June 2012. It was unprotected and seemed destined for somewhere near the top of the board. After all, it was linked to the Timberwolves' fortunes, and Minnesota finishes among the worst records in the league under ordinary circumstances. This year, it so happens, was tending toward extraordinary: No summer league for the kids, Rick Adelman taking over and installing an entirely new system without benefit of a real training camp, Ricky Rubio joining the NBA without a normal transition.
The Clippers deal that pick away to New Orleans, in a trade for Paul, no matter what, of course. Once CP3 agreed to pick up his option for next season, rather than becoming a free agent in July and a one-season rental in L.A., the Clips were in.
But there was still a risk involved. The way the Timberwolves were looking -- building, but needing time to find their footing -- the choice the Clippers sent to New Orleans could easily have been in the 1-2-3 range in what projects as the best Draft in years.
(The Clippers, remember, had just dealt a pick in 2011 to Cleveland -- along with Baron Davis for Mo Williams -- that became No. 1 Kyrie Irving. Yes, the Clippers could have been the team that traded away the top pick in the Draft two years in a row.)
Again, L.A. does the deal anyway. They take Chris Paul, pair him with Blake Griffin, re-sign DeAndre Jordan and begin plotting into the next decade.
But it could have looked bad if things didn't work out with Paul or Griffin, and if the pick they dealt to New Orleans had come up near the top of the Draft board.
Except the season started and everything changed. And to the Clippers' benefit, of all things. Rubio made an immediate impact. Without saying a word, Adelman showed why he has long been an underappreciated coach. Kevin Love was better than ever. The Timberwolves won.
The Timberwolves have been winning with such regularity, in fact, that with the season nearly one-third complete, they are a respectable and encouraging 10-11. Twelve teams have a worse record. The unprotected first-rounder is being de-valued by the week. The Clippers look better every minute.
"Much like last year when we moved a pick to acquire Mo Williams and clear cap space for this summer, we play our own ball and don't look at what might have been or what might be," Neil Olshey, the Clippers vice president of basketball operations, said of the updated perspective. "The Timberwolves, like us, are fighting for a spot in the playoffs, and I follow the outcome of their games as I do all other teams in the Western Conference for that purpose only."
Not to track the Draft choice, in other words.
That job belongs to the Hornets now as part of a rebuilding job that has now reached 4-17. New Orleans is one of the favorites in a tight race for worst record in the league and the best chance at the No. 1 pick, with the bold-face disclaimer that odds do not historically translate to actually getting the first selection. But the Draft has changed no matter what as the Timberwolves start standing on opponents' shoulders.
At this rate, New Orleans having two picks in the top four or five -- the way the Cavaliers did in 2011 thanks to a trade with the Clippers -- is a long shot. The Hornets could still have a pair of lottery choices, and something in the second half of the lottery will be especially valuable if June 28 holds up as a deep draft.
But it's strange how things have turned out. Now the Timberwolves -- who once almost relocated to the Big Easy -- are messing with other people's fortunes. And the Clippers are cashing in.
link: http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/31/clippers-pick/index.html
Posted Feb 1 2012 11:54AM
The Clippers catch another break. Typical. Everything always goes right for them.
Just when the Chris Paul blockbuster trade couldn't be any more of a win -- the credibility it brought, the marketing boost, the rise in the standings -- along come the Timberwolves. They are a developing story of their own, and that's working out perfectly for the Clippers.
These two teams' connection in the 2012 Draft had been years in coming. A previous general manager in Minnesota made a deal with a previous general manager in Los Angeles, and everyone was about to live with it, for better or worse, seven years later. Sam Cassell and a future first-round pick to the Clippers, Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers to the Timberwolves. That was on Aug. 12, 2005.
The first-round pick was for June 2012. It was unprotected and seemed destined for somewhere near the top of the board. After all, it was linked to the Timberwolves' fortunes, and Minnesota finishes among the worst records in the league under ordinary circumstances. This year, it so happens, was tending toward extraordinary: No summer league for the kids, Rick Adelman taking over and installing an entirely new system without benefit of a real training camp, Ricky Rubio joining the NBA without a normal transition.
The Clippers deal that pick away to New Orleans, in a trade for Paul, no matter what, of course. Once CP3 agreed to pick up his option for next season, rather than becoming a free agent in July and a one-season rental in L.A., the Clips were in.
But there was still a risk involved. The way the Timberwolves were looking -- building, but needing time to find their footing -- the choice the Clippers sent to New Orleans could easily have been in the 1-2-3 range in what projects as the best Draft in years.
(The Clippers, remember, had just dealt a pick in 2011 to Cleveland -- along with Baron Davis for Mo Williams -- that became No. 1 Kyrie Irving. Yes, the Clippers could have been the team that traded away the top pick in the Draft two years in a row.)
Again, L.A. does the deal anyway. They take Chris Paul, pair him with Blake Griffin, re-sign DeAndre Jordan and begin plotting into the next decade.
But it could have looked bad if things didn't work out with Paul or Griffin, and if the pick they dealt to New Orleans had come up near the top of the Draft board.
Except the season started and everything changed. And to the Clippers' benefit, of all things. Rubio made an immediate impact. Without saying a word, Adelman showed why he has long been an underappreciated coach. Kevin Love was better than ever. The Timberwolves won.
The Timberwolves have been winning with such regularity, in fact, that with the season nearly one-third complete, they are a respectable and encouraging 10-11. Twelve teams have a worse record. The unprotected first-rounder is being de-valued by the week. The Clippers look better every minute.
"Much like last year when we moved a pick to acquire Mo Williams and clear cap space for this summer, we play our own ball and don't look at what might have been or what might be," Neil Olshey, the Clippers vice president of basketball operations, said of the updated perspective. "The Timberwolves, like us, are fighting for a spot in the playoffs, and I follow the outcome of their games as I do all other teams in the Western Conference for that purpose only."
Not to track the Draft choice, in other words.
That job belongs to the Hornets now as part of a rebuilding job that has now reached 4-17. New Orleans is one of the favorites in a tight race for worst record in the league and the best chance at the No. 1 pick, with the bold-face disclaimer that odds do not historically translate to actually getting the first selection. But the Draft has changed no matter what as the Timberwolves start standing on opponents' shoulders.
At this rate, New Orleans having two picks in the top four or five -- the way the Cavaliers did in 2011 thanks to a trade with the Clippers -- is a long shot. The Hornets could still have a pair of lottery choices, and something in the second half of the lottery will be especially valuable if June 28 holds up as a deep draft.
But it's strange how things have turned out. Now the Timberwolves -- who once almost relocated to the Big Easy -- are messing with other people's fortunes. And the Clippers are cashing in.
link: http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/31/clippers-pick/index.html
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Just got approved for time off to watch the Clippers play the Cavs next week..
..Kevin, I know you'll be there...
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..Kevin, I know you'll be there...
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thats what david stern gets that piece of trash.
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Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Just got approved for time off to watch the Clippers play the Cavs next week..
..Kevin, I know you'll be there....
id rather be in the office making money then wasting time and money watching the cavs.
to each his own
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your missing the point. its to watch blake and cp3... besides irving is looking pretty good right now...Originally Posted by Zyzz
Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Just got approved for time off to watch the Clippers play the Cavs next week..
..Kevin, I know you'll be there....
id rather be in the office making money then wasting time and money watching the cavs.
to each his own
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This... And ALL OF THIS.
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im sure amino acid or whatever the hell his name is was worth it...
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It will all work out when NO mysteriously gets the no. 1 pick next draft...
Gordon and the Chi-Brow
Gordon and the Chi-Brow
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That's the plan.Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Just got approved for time off to watch the Clippers play the Cavs next week..
..Kevin, I know you'll be there....
It will all work out when NO mysteriously gets the no. 1 pick next draft...
Gordon and the Chi-Brow
Your boy is sitting out half the season with a boo-boo on his knee. I don't think he has a whole lot of interest in who the Hornets draft.
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
It will all work out when NO mysteriously gets the no. 1 pick next draft...
Gordon and the Chi-Brow
Mysteriously my @#$ Everybody on this board knows they getting the #1 pick.
Then what?
Kaman is dead. Aminou (sp) is nothing, Gordon isn't even staying, and Minny's pick is about to be #11 or some @#$%
That does what for the Hornets? That #1 pick will leave in 4 years too.
Stern took his biggest chip and flipped it for nothing, and he woulda given them the #1 pick this year anyways, even with Odom/Martin/Scola.
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The Lakers trade wouldn't have been better cause Odom would have been in a mental hospital long before he would have been in a Hornets jersey
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Originally Posted by NobleKane
your missing the point. its to watch blake and cp3... besides irving is looking pretty good right now...Originally Posted by Zyzz
Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
Just got approved for time off to watch the Clippers play the Cavs next week..
..Kevin, I know you'll be there....
id rather be in the office making money then wasting time and money watching the cavs.
to each his own
Can't pass up watching #LobCity come to my city and play..
...plus Kyrie vs CP3...
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Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
It will all work out when NO mysteriously gets the no. 1 pick next draft...
Gordon and the Chi-Brow
Mysteriously my @#$ Everybody on this board knows they getting the #1 pick.
Then what?
Kaman is dead. Aminou (sp) is nothing, Gordon isn't even staying, and Minny's pick is about to be #11 or some @#$%
That does what for the Hornets? That #1 pick will leave in 4 years too.
Stern took his biggest chip and flipped it for nothing, and he woulda given them the #1 pick this year anyways, even with Odom/Martin/Scola.Real bright.
all valid points
but it was still a better offer then the Lakers trade
Odom is also a team option, meaning the Hornets could flip him to a contender if he was crying.
Or at worst, let his contract go after this season.
If Odom bought in, with Martin, Scola, Ariza, Emeka, Jack, and whatever else is on that roster, they fight for the playoffs in a nutzo year, or tank and get the Stern #1 anyways.
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Originally Posted by CripwalkinK
Random but I had to post this:
Pietrus is a dummy
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ummm eric gordon is restricted, right?!
couldn't NO just match whatever deal he's offered?
couldn't NO just match whatever deal he's offered?
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if he agrees to and signs a deal with another team. Smart thing would be to pursue 1yr deals..
