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Tony Allen is the best perimeter defender in the league. Agreed?
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Tony Allen made a lot winning plays towards the end of that game
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Yes and there shouldn't be any discussion. Homer or not.
He's just so terrible on offense, though.
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Dude's a winner.
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He truly lives up to his "Trick or Treat" nickname.
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Bobcats should jus' throw the in the white flag. No Corey or DJ. Forget it..
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Memphis.
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Filthy dunk by Deron Williams on Hibbert
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TA with 4 blocks.
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Reset/reboot your cable box maybe?
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Are we not count Hakeem in either situation? Is he American because of Team USA or what?
And what about Nash?
CP is acting like Manu Ginobili is Sabonis, that's what I don't get. No, he's not a HOF because of what he did in the NBA alone, but it didn't hurt his chances at all. It's not like he was some scrub in the NBA.
What about Steve Kerr? Is he Hall of fame material too?
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Psh. Who does this Deron Williams guy think he is? He can barely dunk.
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This.
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I was wondering the same thing. Wasn't sure if the Memphis crowd was bored, or if the commentators volume was up too high
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manu is a HOF but he isnt close to better that Ewing.
hes the ultimate role player with the best PF to everr play and one of the best coaches. And a great pg.
hes the ultimate role player with the best PF to everr play and one of the best coaches. And a great pg.
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Got a question for yall.
Say Robert Horry gets into the Hall of Fame, do you think that it would set a precedent for guys like Steve Kerr and Derek Fisher to get in eventually? Obviously not first ballots, but eventually get into the Hall of Fame?
Me and CP were going back and forth, and how you can make a special case for Horry because he constantly showed up for big plays, and he won multiple times with three teams.
I understand where he's coming from, but I just think that it sets a bad precedent of letting guys in because of how many rings they have and how many big shots they've hit.
And if I'm misinterpreting your argument somehow, please correct me CP.
I just don't see how a guy with no All-NBA, no All-Defense, no All-Star, less than 10,000 points, gets in. THAT'S what troubles me. I acknowledge he has seven rings with multiple teams, and that he's been a difference maker in many of those championships, but no matter what you're on the coattails of great players.
I mean, the guy never averaged more than 12 PPG. How much are you helping your team if that's all your averaging? A career 42%/34% shooter, which is pretty much what he was after he left the Lakers.
Say Robert Horry gets into the Hall of Fame, do you think that it would set a precedent for guys like Steve Kerr and Derek Fisher to get in eventually? Obviously not first ballots, but eventually get into the Hall of Fame?
Me and CP were going back and forth, and how you can make a special case for Horry because he constantly showed up for big plays, and he won multiple times with three teams.
I understand where he's coming from, but I just think that it sets a bad precedent of letting guys in because of how many rings they have and how many big shots they've hit.
And if I'm misinterpreting your argument somehow, please correct me CP.
I just don't see how a guy with no All-NBA, no All-Defense, no All-Star, less than 10,000 points, gets in. THAT'S what troubles me. I acknowledge he has seven rings with multiple teams, and that he's been a difference maker in many of those championships, but no matter what you're on the coattails of great players.
I mean, the guy never averaged more than 12 PPG. How much are you helping your team if that's all your averaging? A career 42%/34% shooter, which is pretty much what he was after he left the Lakers.
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Yeah, it would set a precedent. Horry does not deserve to be in the HoF either IMO. Perhaps they retire Horry's number (look at Bowen) but he is nowhere near HoF worthy.
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He'll never make the Hall of Fame, so it won't even matter.
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I've never even given the thought of Robert Horry being in the HoF. He has been part of a lot of big plays for every one of the teams he's won ring with,
but just based purely on stats I would say no. Him being a former Laker sort of negates any bias I would have for him being a former Rocket/Spur
I guess it would be setting a precedent for guys like Fisher and Kerr who really have the same stats.
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Kinda found this interesting:
Kyrie Irving Rookie Year: 28 MIN, 18 PTS, 5 AST, 3 REB, 3 TO, .516 FG%, .407 3P%, .806 FT%
Lebron James Rookie Year: 39 MIN, 21 PTS, 6 AST, 5 REB, 3 TO, .417 FG%, .290 3P%, .754 FT%
..that's Kyrie thus far of course, but that's impressive. Sad thing is he's doing it very quietly due to so much going on in the league right now..
Kyrie Irving Rookie Year: 28 MIN, 18 PTS, 5 AST, 3 REB, 3 TO, .516 FG%, .407 3P%, .806 FT%
Lebron James Rookie Year: 39 MIN, 21 PTS, 6 AST, 5 REB, 3 TO, .417 FG%, .290 3P%, .754 FT%
..that's Kyrie thus far of course, but that's impressive. Sad thing is he's doing it very quietly due to so much going on in the league right now..
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Isaiah Thomas has been getting nice every time I see the Kings on TV.
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You gotta just forget Lebron. Kyrie's doing well, but he doesn't need to be compared to everything Lebron did as he goes throughout his career (I'm anticipating more of this). How about comparing him to the numbers of an actual point guard?
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Yall heard about this?!!?? If not, can you guess what happened
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