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Let’s not forget Conte did what he did with Inter with like 6 former United rejects.
But clearly he’s not United material.
A little out there personality wise is quite the understatement The guy's an absolute maniac on the sidelines
I don't buy the myth that he's Mou 2.0 at all just because he likes an organized defense. Tuchel literally just won a CL with a similar set up. He's still at the top of his game and he's won league titles playing some good stuff moving forward at Juve, Chelsea and Inter.
He's a little out there personality wise for sure but he's a winner that's proven he can match up tactically with the best.
Main knock on him I'd have is his record in Europe but the solidity he'd bring back at the back would be appreciated. Sick of this schoolyard defending conceding awful goals and getting ran through in the middle of the park like nothing.
Also feel like a reason he's pushing so hard for the job, even though it was reported that he wouldn't want to join somewhere midseason a while ago, is that he'd have the best attacking talent he's ever had at his disposal. Would be curious to see what he'd do with the wingers but his no.9's always eat.
I trust the attacking talent and creativity in the squad would be enough to still score regularly, just would be nice to see some semblance of a solid defense again. 1 clean sheet in 20+ matches is a disgrace.
Wouldn't be an appointment I'd expect to last more than 2-3 years given how the club is ran and how he's not shy about bouncing if he's not supported but I feel like the team is kind of built for challenging right now anyway so at least he'd be able to compete for trophies right away.
I don't buy the myth that he's Mou 2.0 at all just because he likes an organized defense. Tuchel literally just won a CL with a similar set up. He's still at the top of his game and he's won league titles playing some good stuff moving forward at Juve, Chelsea and Inter.
He's a little out there personality wise for sure but he's a winner that's proven he can match up tactically with the best.
Main knock on him I'd have is his record in Europe but the solidity he'd bring back at the back would be appreciated. Sick of this schoolyard defending conceding awful goals and getting ran through in the middle of the park like nothing.
Also feel like a reason he's pushing so hard for the job, even though it was reported that he wouldn't want to join somewhere midseason a while ago, is that he'd have the best attacking talent he's ever had at his disposal. Would be curious to see what he'd do with the wingers but his no.9's always eat.
I trust the attacking talent and creativity in the squad would be enough to still score regularly, just would be nice to see some semblance of a solid defense again. 1 clean sheet in 20+ matches is a disgrace.
Wouldn't be an appointment I'd expect to last more than 2-3 years given how the club is ran and how he's not shy about bouncing if he's not supported but I feel like the team is kind of built for challenging right now anyway so at least he'd be able to compete for trophies right away.
Let’s not forget Conte did what he did with Inter with like 6 former United rejects.
But clearly he’s not United material.
I agree, it's the only big club left where the manager is constantly put up on a giant pedestal irregardless of results when they're just another employee at every other club.
Just look at folks like Neville and top reds who deify the manager and blame everyone and their mother under the sun before them when things get tough with the whole 'JUST BACK THE MANAGER' crap.
You don't see managers lasting more than 3 years at most big clubs nowadays unless they're building something special like Pep or Klopp. The most successful clubs over the last decade haven't had any qualms over cutting bait soon as things are trending backwards yet the club loves to drag things out as long as possible and give chance after chance when things become inevitable.
Love Fergie for all he did but he also seriously warped the club and the fanbases expectations for a manager and views of what a manager represents. You're never gonna get decades long managerial dynasties again the same way we're never gonna see someone last as long as Wenger did either. That's a bygone era and everyone seems to know it but the club and fanbase.
Managers aren't Gods the same way players aren't either, just another cog in the machine albeit important ones, but clubs are bigger than them and most serious ones act like it.
Let’s not forget Conte did what he did with Inter with like 6 former United rejects.
But clearly he’s not United material.
Conte who is established and shown that he can win with different teams and all levels of personnel in different leagues was said to not be good enough for United by their supporters. The team sucks defensively and these guys are worried that if Conte were to take over, they would lose their attacking identity. You absolutely can't make this up.I couldn’t believe some of the stuff I was reading in here yesterday. These folks actually think they still have an established brand of attacking football that they cannot betray. From the outside looking in, it’s hilarious but if I were a supporter I’d be furious at the delusion. Manchester United in 2021 would be fortunate to have a winner like Conte at their command.
Yea he can be a madman man
I've never heard a former player say a bad thing about him though and it sounds like he always gets a ton of belief out of his players which is why they usually work their asses off for him.
Of course in an ideal world, United would send a blank check to Ajax to nab van der Sar as sporting director and Ten Hag to build a dream project for the long run with vast resources but I know United well enough to know that would never even be considered
It's a business first and foremost for them and there's not many football people making decisions at the top so they'd never 'gamble' on a lesser name in the hopes of building something in the future. They'd want a proven commodity that can get results quick which is why I'm resigning myself more and more to Conte even though he wouldn't be my first choice.
Could do a lot worse though and I've always respected him at every stop he's been at
Let’s be honest here too, a lot of it is Conte’s “Latin Temperament” that’s also getting in the way here.
Scares the hell out of these Brits
Maybe. Maybe it’s just PTSD from Mou
I couldn’t believe some of the stuff I was reading in here yesterday. These folks actually think they still have an established brand of attacking football that they cannot betray. From the outside looking in, it’s hilarious but if I were a supporter I’d be furious at the delusion. Manchester United in 2021 would be fortunate to have a winner like Conte at their command.
They're set for years already with Nagelsmannall this Ten Hag talk I just hope he dont go to Bayern, that would be too scary