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I think Iceland deserve a lot of credit. They are a good team. People acting like they are some trash team and england just is even worse. Iceland are pretty legit props to them.

What took them so long to get Rashford on the field. Dude gets on the field in the 86th minute and reeks havoc down the wing for like what 8mins with stoppage. He needed to be on earlier
 
I dont see anyone disrespecting Iceland for their achievement,the disbelief is because they're literally playing their first major competition and the much hyped 3 Lions squad who the English press thought would breeze right on through to the next round,ended up playing their worst match at the worst possible time :lol: :x

Another confirmed signing

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Can't help but feel like dude is gonna flourish under Klopp...
 
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Hulk possibly moving to China for 61 million dollars.
 
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Glenn Hoddle huh... :rofl:

I wonder if he's going to bring back the faith healer? :rolleyes

Another case of the FA taking care of one of their own.

I'll bet he'll be one of the highest paid national team managers.
 
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Damn, always wanted to see Hulk in Spain.

Speaking of Spain,apparently NT's fav Nani is headed to Valencia :nerd:
 
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I heard he was linked with Inter too, which in my opinion is the better move. Him and Perisic on the counter? Would be good to see in Serie A.
 
Batshuayi apparently rejected the move to Palace :rofl:. He's pulling a Lacazette since he wants to play CL footy
 
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you people are out of your mind calling for rooneys head like his
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Shrek has flopped in 5 straight tournaments for the 3 Lions and he hasn't played well (poorly really) for United for at least 2 years, maybe 3.

After United ended its campaign, there was talk about shrek transitioning to midfield & yet his play there for the 3 Lions has been really bad & down right embarrassing. He passing has been terribe & was awful in possession. He gave the ball away so frequently throughout the whole tournament.

He had one decent game against Wales & that was it.

At this point, what redeeming qualities does he have to offer on a big stage?
 
"Sources"

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...players-lost-faith-in-roy-hodgson-sky-sources
  • Were surprised by the use of a 4-3-3 formation, which had barely been implemented in any of England's friendly matches in 2016.
  • Questioned the selection of Raheem Sterling for the Iceland game, after he showed signs of lacking confidence throughout the tournament.
  • Felt momentum had been lost by making six changes for the Slovakia game, which they drew 0-0.
  • Wondered why Adam Lallana did not start against Iceland after his impressive performances during the group stages
  • Debated among themselves the merits of playing Wayne Rooney in midfield, for the first time in his England career.
  • Were left frustrated that Marcus Rashford was left to warm up for approximately 10 minutes before he was sent on for the final four minutes of the Iceland game with England in desperate need of a goal.
  • Felt his pre-prepared statement at the post-Iceland press conference was an indication he may have doubted the team's chances before the game. 
 
The gents on the Guardian's podcast said Roy was sight seeing instead of taking in the Iceland vs Austria game. Apparently Neville & 4 other members of the coaching staff watched the game in Paris.

They also said Neville burst out in laughter when Iceland won...
 
Rooney is done as an elite footballer. Only thing he excels at is the Hollywood ball to the flank. Poor first touch, poor short passing, tries to place every shot. Don't know how many times he killed a move for us last season. Thanks Moyes.
 
Raphael Honigstein is one of the few espn fc writers. Great piece on England's failure. He hit the nail on the head with his thoughts on Roy. I cringed when I heard Roy's comments in his presser that Honigstein refers to.

[COLOR=#red]England's failure to play as a team was at the root of their Euro 2016 woes[/COLOR]
BY RAPHAEL HONIGSTEIN
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NICE, France -- They make too much money. They lack passion. There's not enough love for the country. They're too soft and pampered. They are too nice. There are not enough leaders.

That was the story German football told itself, via ex-professionals, the media and the man in the street when the national team lost its way in the late 1990s and early 2000s. For England fans at present, it will all sound very familiar.

Complex reasons often provoke purely emotional responses. In the aftermath of England's Euro 2016 exit at the hands of Iceland, even the Independent, one of the country's most measured broadsheets, went down this well-trodden cul-de-sac with an incendiary headline that read "too rich, too famous, too much ego."

Joe Hart was the man described in these unflattering terms and, in the view of the paper, the Manchester City keeper epitomises "everything that is wrong" with the country's national team. There will be more scapegoats to find and more fingers of blame pointed in the coming days.

But English football will be done a huge disservice if the analysis of this latest calamity doesn't go beyond the usual look at supposed character deficiencies, or if it exhausts itself in replaying the tournament with a different, imaginary squad.

There were individual problems, without question. Hart's technical shortcomings caught up with him brutally in France. England didn't have centre-backs comfortable with playing a pass beyond 10 metres, their full-backs were happiest running in straight lines and there was no left winger.

Many players are critically and financially overrated. And Wayne Rooney as a playmaker was a fantasy that should have never been indulged. The 30-year-old evidently has the footballing intelligence to play that role but not the legs.

One can go through the whole team and second guess every one of Roy Hodgson's lineup, but still you would be left with a group of players sufficiently talented to beat Russia, Slovakia, Iceland and, quite possibly, France. All of the teams at Euro 2016 are incomplete in one way or another, lacking a specific player here or there. They are all forced to make do. The real question is: Why can't England?

Because they don't play as a team. It's not a new malaise. John Barnes has recalled how, in the late 1980s and early 1990s, stars from England's biggest clubs were simply put in a lineup and expected to get on with it. Twenty years later, Owen Hargreaves said very much the same about the "Golden Generation" of the Sven-Goran Eriksson era.

These teams had some of the world's best players, regulars in sides that won domestic and international trophies, but never could find a way to play with and for each other. One day, Hart & Co. might come to a similar conclusion as they look back at a raft of flawed tournament performances.

View media item 2084087In three tournaments as England manager, Roy Hodgson's best finish was reaching the Euro 2012 quarterfinals.

Hodgson unwittingly put his finger on the issue when, after last month's 1-0 win over Portugal, he claimed that "systems don't win games, good footballers do." He was actually talking about formations, rather than systems and that misapprehension was also telling. A formation bereft of an underlying system, idea and method is just a string of numbers -- words thrown together that might or might not make for a functioning sentence.

Even at their best at this wretched tournament, during the first half against a shockingly bad Russia side, England had no discernible structures of attacking play. Some players ran with the ball, others dropped deep; there was no joint-up thinking, no joint-up play.

Hodgson, stung by the criticism of being a conservative coach and unimaginative 4-4-2 merchant, came up with a bolder 4-3-3 formation that maximised the number of attacking players on the pitch but still delivered almost nothing due to a lack of clear instructions.

You know the emperor is naked when you hear coaches talking about giving their players "freedom" to play with instinct. That might have been a workable concept 30 years ago, in an age of man-marking and teams not defending collectively. Today, it's just a euphemism for not bothering with specific attacking patterns or training ground moves that are needed to break down sturdy back lines.

It's no use bemoaning Raheem Sterling for constantly making the wrong runs. He needs to be told how, where and when he should go instead. Few national coaches bother to practice these things in great detail, because they take time, they're not much fun and they're difficult to get right, as opposed to collective movement without the ball, which anyone can do these days.

Moreover, there are many, including Hodgson, who believe that top players can come up with their own solutions and would only be inhibited by instructions too specific. (Note the ridicule Louis van Gaal was subjected to when he tried to coach the intricacies of attacking play at Manchester United).

You cannot make it up as you go along and simply throw more and more attacking players at the problem in the hope that something will stick. England's disastrous second half against Iceland brutally exposed the folly of such an approach: As the big stars faltered, the whole house came crashing down for want of solid foundations.

Now that Nice has become the latest of shorthand descriptions for the "Three Lions'" worst humiliations -- see also: Belo Horizonte, Bloemfontein -- the old debate about England's lacking "identity" is bound to resurface.

But national teams don't so much need "identity" as they do a clear, continuously implemented system of play, with a coach who picks his players accordingly. Until England find a manager with the authority and know-how to drill the country's elite into playing as a unit at both ends of the pitch -- and players willing to do the same -- they will continue to underperform relative to their considerable ability.
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http://www.espnfc.us/team/england/4...-team-was-at-the-root-of-their-euro-2016-woes

Honigstein also has a great book about German football that's available for pretty cheap on Amazon called Das Reboot: How German Football Reinvented Itself and Conquered the World.
 
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http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/s...tired-lionel-messi-to-carry-on-with-argentina

"Messi has to stay in the national team. He will go to Russia in form to be world champion," Maradona told La Nacion.

This the same dude that told the NT to never come home if they lost 
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Messi and co literally has the NT hostage 
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It seems to me that Messi couldn't handle the tsunami of criticism that was to come after the devastating loss to Chile, so as a defensive mechanism against the criticism he quickly retired so that people wouldn't be like "Why did you choke again?" and more like "Please come back."
 
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