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Don't let the BMI fool you.
Jokic is 7th in defensive win shares; ahead of Giannis, Bam, Embiid.
He's also 6th in defensive box plus minus; tied with Gobert & ahead of Giannis, Simmons, Bam, Turner, Embiid.
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Don't let the BMI fool you.
Jokic is 7th in defensive win shares; ahead of Giannis, Bam, Embiid.
He's also 6th in defensive box plus minus; tied with Gobert & ahead of Giannis, Simmons, Bam, Turner, Embiid.
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Win shares also is based on games played. Eudrice, Yawnist and Jo have all missed a considerable amount of time
Now for DBPM, you looking at total or per game avg? That’s still a flawed metric because it’s always based on who is also on the court with you
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pmatic
is the only HONEST Lakers fan. Sad
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Y’all was loving KD’s weird social media antics until it involved Curry 
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Give this man the damn MVP
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MVP
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Y’all was loving KD’s weird social media antics until it involved Curry
"Best social media athlete ever"
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Did he just get in an altercation with his girl like 2 weeks ago?
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Lost two top 5 guys & still in good position to get a homecourt series in the first at least & back to being the best team in the league
Blazers 3-7
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Lost two top 5 guys & still in good position to get a homecourt series in the first at least & back to being the best team in the league
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KD was better than Steph, but he doesn't win without him or Golden State.
I would have loved to see one more match between that Cavs & Warriors Team, without KD.
I would have loved to see one more match between that Cavs & Warriors Team, without KD.
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Y’all was loving KD’s weird social media antics until it involved Curry
But this isn’t the best of social media KD. He just liked a post. If he came out and just said the same thing outright, I’d be more supportive. I wouldn’t think he’s right, but I’d find it funny.
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It’s mainly funny because they were...... teammates. how do you quantify that. Looking at the leading scorer? That wasn’t the logic used with Kobe & Shaq in the west playoffs
I heard one guy was a sidekick when he was the point guard, leading scorer, and primary perimeter defender in several of those playoff series.When KD & Curry weren’t teammates & met in the playoffs, Curry was the best player on the court.
I just don’t understand I guess
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Hawks-Knicks for sole possession of 4th in the conference tonight
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In one world ya'll say we don't appreciate Steph enough..... now ya'll in here arguing that he's better than KD
antidope
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No one's here to argue, especially not with yall.
I think Steph is better than KD and was better than him during the GSW tenure. Long-term things can change but I don't see it happening the way things are going, and I couldn't care less what any of yall think about it. You won't see me get into a nonsense debate about it.
The lack of appreciation would be supported by the fact that people don't acknowledge that he's better than KD but yall got it. Hit me with the laughing emojis and we can be done with it cause I surely didn't make the comment with the intent to argue in circles with yall
I think Steph is better than KD and was better than him during the GSW tenure. Long-term things can change but I don't see it happening the way things are going, and I couldn't care less what any of yall think about it. You won't see me get into a nonsense debate about it.
The lack of appreciation would be supported by the fact that people don't acknowledge that he's better than KD but yall got it. Hit me with the laughing emojis and we can be done with it cause I surely didn't make the comment with the intent to argue in circles with yall
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One of the greatest scorers of all time joined the team, and the offense still ran through Steph
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Here the propaganda train gets to rolling again
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Right? Feel like some people believe you could’ve switched Steph out for any all-star guard and KD would have had the same success with the Warriors. There’s really no logical reason to assume that. KD did what he did in part because the teammates surrounding him.
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Lost two top 5 guys & still in good position to get a homecourt series in the first at least & back to being the best team in the league
Damn near every team in the West could’ve used a guard, all of those GMs knew OKC was a fire-sale candidate & still let Schroeder go to the champs
wild to me.
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One of these guys lost to the other, then moved himself and all of his cellphones to the bay, just to win a chip. that's all I have to say about the issue.
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I don't even care to debate which one is better on the court, but I know only one of them is losing sleep @ night due to extreme jealousy/insecurity and I find it hilarious because they're both once in a generation type players.
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