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KD was the “alpha” on the 2016 team that won gold. Lead the 2012 team in scoring and was the best player on the floor.
but I’m sleep
Nah Jimmy Butler was on that team.
that's why they won the gold
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KD was the “alpha” on the 2016 team that won gold. Lead the 2012 team in scoring and was the best player on the floor.
but I’m sleep
Steph Curry fits this to a tee. Duncan too, throw Ginobili in there too. For the more obviously vocal side, Kobe and KG. Lowkey Pierce although his antics could get annoying. DWade although I can’t stand his dirty play is the classic example. Draymond.Russ just got a big personality that's not a leader. Russ ain't really a good leader. He plays too reckless and does a lot of **** outta frustration.
It ain't that hard to see whos a good leader or not. Somebody that has a track record of leading winning teams. Other players want to join them. Can adjust their games to fit with other good/great players, plays smart. Some of it your personality how you communicate with your teammates.
Doesn't count.KD was the “alpha” on the 2016 team that won gold. Lead the 2012 team in scoring and was the best player on the floor.
but I’m sleep
For a team loaded with talent, yes it is the ideal form of leadership. Throw KG on that list too.
All of the best players on this current team arent necessarily the vocal type.
It'll be interesting to see who they turn to. This current team would get beat by the 2008 2012 Spain teams. Probably easily too.
Not sure why that is even being discussed vs. Actual technical happenings on the court. But what do I know.So what should we be saying, USA needs a clear cut leader? Idk who their leader is right now.
True leadership is about knowing when to pick your battles and how to manipulate. Levels about trying to be the alpha at all times. Racist Phil was the ultimate manipulator.I dont think you want a coach for grown men/professionals to be an alpha. That sounds like a disaster.
Jimmy won somethingNah Jimmy Butler was on that team.
that's why they won the gold
Doesn't count.
How do you figure it is ideal?
Not sure why that is even being discussed vs. Actual technical happenings on the court. But what do I know.
Steph Curry fits this to a tee. Duncan too, throw Ginobili in there too. For the more obviously vocal side, Kobe and KG. Lowkey Pierce although his antics could get annoying. DWade although I can’t stand his dirty play is the classic example.
Carmelo is an example of the opposite.
Not sure why that is even being discussed vs. Actual technical happenings on the court. But what do I know.
We are NOT talking about VOCAL leaders.A vocal leader when you have a super talented roster? Yes thats crucial, otherwise its just “oh just give KD the ball he knows what to do”.
You need the balancer like when Kobe and Shaq talk about Derek Fisher, Brian Shaw. Championship teams are a damn powder keg manI think Steph is a good leader. I think him and Dray are a good Leadership duo. Good cop, bad cop type of ****. Sometimes you need somebody that's gonna get in dudes faces, other times you need a calming personality. Dray be too much a lot of times though and when you putting up 7 points a game ain't nobody really tryna hear that.
I did.Did you see those last 5 minutes in the Nigeria game?
Other groups hijacking the movement to prop up their own messages and also having their own agendas. I remember one day when I was driving through the city, a group of them blocked traffic to protest. It was a group lead by some white women and this white guy. They were the types with crazy piercings, random tattoos, and colorful hair. It was a mixed group, but barely any black people there.For example?
I did.
Do now explain to me how someone being AGGRESSIVELY vocal would have changed anything.
We are NOT talking about VOCAL leaders.
We are talking about AGGRESSIVELY vocal leaders.
Why is that ideal?
What im saying is they needed someone to step up, and not just taking shots. They dont have a clear cut leader, they just out there playing with talent thinking thats enough to get them through.
Damb, easily though...You guys said this current team would easily beat anyone internationally. Yet when **** hit the fan in an exhibition team against a team that won’t even medal, we saw a team confused af with no one stepping up and regrouping the guys. They blindly just fed the ball to KD and got out the way. Then that final possession was a cluster ****.
But it was the 20 threes. Right. They should’ve never been in that situation from the beginning.
That isn't the agreed upon definition of Alpha that your camp presented/agreed upon.Im talking about vocal leaders man.
So not having an Alpha is the main reason they didn't execute/defend in the final minutes of the game Vs Nigeria?
I just want to make sure that is what is being said here.
They didnt have a clear cut leader. Like I said, they just playing off talent. “We’ll just give the ball to KD”.
That isn't the agreed upon definition of Alpha that your camp presented/agreed upon.
But still, pretend Alpha = Vocal.
How does that play into not executing/defending in the final moments?