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Another Article. And, Pacquiao is going straight after the best of the division. He has the bargaining power, basically the ball is in his court.

EDIT: I dont think its a good idea to go after Mosley right now since he's a lot bigger. But, Pacquiao will still have a legitimate chance of winning I think. If Pacquiao beast Mosley, everyone would react like he's too old, he's pass his prime, Mosley isnt like he was 5 years ago when fighting Oscar, etc.

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[h1]Manny Pacquiao could have the boxing market cornered[/h1]

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Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

Manny Pacquiao, who won his sixth world title, celebrates his victory over Ricky Hatton on Saturday night in Las Vegas.

In the wake of his two-round destruction of Ricky Hatton, the world's best pound-for-pound boxer is powerfully positioned to call all the shots and pick his own fights.

By Lance Pugmire
May 4, 2009

Reporting from Las Vegas -- Manny Pacquiao prides himself as a smart businessman who knows how to play poker. Let future opponents beware: He walked out of the MGM Grand casino-hotel this weekend with a stack of chips.

A record-tying world title in a sixth division. A fourth consecutive victory in a different weight class. And a one-sided performance in a major fight that, compared to the Tyson-Spinks mauling and George Foreman's "Down goes Frazier!" triumph, has given Pacquiao unprecedented power in mapping his immediate fighting future.

The best pound-for-pound fighter in the world coming off a second-round knockout victory like that in a lucrative junior-welterweight championship bout against Ricky Hatton? That creates perks.

After the first major bout of the post-Oscar De La Hoya era, Pacquiao is now the man. He is empowered to pick who he wants to fight, when he wants to fight them, and at what weight.

The handful of opponents before him includes Pomona's world welterweight champion Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, unbeaten lightweight champion Edwin Valero, Mexico's popular Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and unbeaten and recently unretired Floyd Mayweather Jr.
The problem with Mayweather is that he signed Friday to fight Mexico's Juan Manuel Marquez on July 18. The move surprised the Pacquiao camp, who saythey are unlikely to rest until the super-fight.

"A busy fighter is a good fighter, we're not going to wait around," Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said. "Mayweather just had to wait oneday and this fight could've happened. I think he's scared of Manny."

Privately, the Pacquiao camp said Mayweather Jr. harmed his leverage in future Pacquiao negotiations -- perhaps for a bout early next year -- by agreeing tofight Marquez in a bout expected to struggle for pay-per-view buys.

Meanwhile, the buzz around Pacquiao (49-3-2, 36 knockouts) intensified after he knocked down Hatton three times, including a highlight-reel left hook thatflattened Hatton with one second left in the second round.

Pacquiao, 30, is in peak shape, showcasing ring smarts that have caught up to his speed and punching power. He's better than even those closest to himthink. Pacquiao business manager Michael Koncz said before the fight that he bet at the sports book that his fighter would knock out Hatton in three to sixrounds.

Roach, for the second consecutive fight, ended the night urging a Pacquiao victim to retire. De La Hoya did, and Hatton should, too, Roach said. "He had agreat career, but knockouts like that aren't good for people."

Hatton's promoter Richard Schaefer said Hatton "never mentioned retirement" in a post-fight discussion.

Meanwhile, Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank said, "I have something special in history here, an athlete who's improving every fight. He'slike a grand painting."

The next stroke, Arum said, is to have Pacquiao film a movie in the Philippines, then travel to New York in June to pick up his 2008 fighter-of-the-year awardand watch Cotto's welterweight title defense against Joshua Clottey. The Pacquiao camp will then huddle to select a new foe.

"Manny will fight anybody. He says, 'Whoever, whatever, no problem, I just do what my coach [Roach] wants me to do,' " Arum's matchmaker,Bruce Trampler, said. "Freddie knows. He thinks about this stuff all the time."

So it's noteworthy that Roach first mentioned Mosley as a future opponent. "As a fan, that's the fight I'd most want to see," Roach said.

Mosley congratulated Pacquiao late Saturday, then quickly lobbied to get that fight while knowing Top Rank could be tempted business-wise to match Pacquiaoagainst Cotto, a Top Rank fighter. Trampler said assuredly there's no such conspiracy theory in play.

"Let's get it done," Mosley said. "I don't see a reason they'd want to fight Cotto when I'm the champion who beat [Antonio]Margarito, who beat Cotto. It'd be a classic fight [against Pacquiao]. We both have good hand speed and power and I think that fans want to see the bestfight the best."

Team Pacquiao, however, doesn't want to fight either Mosley or Cotto at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds, and would demand that either move down to acatch-weight bout of 143 pounds, said Roach.

"We can talk," Mosley said.

First, it'll be up to Team Pacquiao to make the call.

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Link: http://www.latimes.com/sp...009may04,0,5137234.story
 
Y'all should read Doug Fischer's mailbag @ The Ring website
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He's over there snappin with his replies. Sounding like an NTer
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"A busy fighter is a good fighter, we're not going to wait around," Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said. "Mayweather just had to wait one day and this fight could've happened. I think he's scared of Manny."
Freddie knows that ain't truth at all

Privately, the Pacquiao camp said Mayweather Jr. harmed his leverage in future Pacquiao negotiations -- perhaps for a bout early next year -- by agreeing to fight Marquez in a bout expected to struggle for pay-per-view buys.



Well thats just wrong

What did PBF vs Baldomir do? There is no way that JMM vs PBF could do worse

JMM is a Mexican fighter and one of the best in the game and PBF is coming out of retirement
 
You know what I think of Floyd "Needs Money" Mayweather Jr: Great talent and skill, without a great heart to go with it. He won't fight anyone he doesn't KNOW he can beat. Before he fights an elite fighter that fighter has to first look vulnerable in some way. Pacquiao hasn't looked vulnerable in any category in his recent fights, so I don't think Mayweather will actively pursue the Pac-Monster after his July 18 showdown with JM Marquez.

And by the way, I think Marquez is going to shock the s__t out of Needs Money. When's the last time Mayweather took on a fighter as smart, skilled, experienced and gutsy as Marquez? This ain't Carlos Baldomir, a faded Oscar De La Hoya, or a made-to-order Ricky Hatton, this is Juan-Mother-F__king-Marquez he's stepping in the ring with, the man who gave Manny Pacquiao pure hell last March and then knocked out Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz.


Co-Sign

This broke-%@% fool better be ready to defend his legacy come July 18.

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Them #@#!!@ is lying.... There aint no way in hell the Floyd Manny fight doesnt happen in December.
 
Pacquiao hasn't looked vulnerable in any category in his recent fights,

Okay, I'll give you that but then


When's the last time Mayweather took on a fighter as smart, skilled, experienced and gutsy as Marquez? This ain't Carlos Baldomir, a faded Oscar De La Hoya, or a made-to-order Ricky Hatton, this is Juan-Mother-F__king-Marquez he's stepping in the ring with, the man who gave Manny Pacquiao pure hell last March

Uhhhh, who were Pac Man's last two fights against??

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I know Manny never went up against Baldomir but those wins over past their primes Barera and Morales don't exactly make that resume much better
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Them #@#!!@ is lying.... There aint no way in hell the Floyd Manny fight doesnt happen in December.


Nah @$%# that I'm not trying to travel to Vegas to see that, fight Cotto goddammit so I can just take the train to the Garden.
 
I think PBF vs. JMM can do good #s.

Although he's not a big ticket seller -- Floyd coming back alone should bring in alot of PPV buys from casual boxing fans.

JMM is Mexico's premier fighter and they have a loyal ticket buying and PPV buying fanbase.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

They were saying last nite if pac andPBF were to agree, u gotta look for it in early 2010

why tho? floyd fight is in 2 months if he wins that you can make the Manny VS PBF for Nov-dec. top rank can talk all the BS they want they will NOT make aManny fight till they see the results of that one.
 
Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

They were saying last nite if pac andPBF were to agree, u gotta look for it in early 2010

why tho? floyd fight is in 2 months if he wins that you can make the Manny VS PBF for Nov-dec. top rank can talk all the BS they want they will NOT make a Manny fight till they see the results of that one.

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Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Yo, how good is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr?

He's getting paid off his name

Charging 30 bucks for glorified sparring matches


They're trying to set him up with Alfonso Gomez to be on TRPPV
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[h2]Pacquiao silences Hatton fans, Floyd Sr.[/h2]
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[h5]Pacquiao Drops Hatton In 2nd[/h5]
Teddy Atlas breaks down Manny Pacquiao's TKO win over Ricky Hatton
Pacquiao Drops Hatton In 2nd

A roundup of the past week's notable boxing results from around the world:
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Saturday at Las Vegas​
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Junior welterweight
Manny Pacquiao KO2 Ricky Hatton
Wins world junior welterweight title
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Pacquiao, 49-3-2, 37 KOs; Hatton, 45-2, 32 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Pacquiao is the king. He now is to boxing what LeBron James is to the NBA, what Tiger Woods is to golf. You get the picture. There is no doubt, especially after his utterly dominant and pulverizing knockout victory of Hatton to win the junior welterweight world championship. The pound-for-pound king not only cemented his status as the No. 1 fighter in the world, but he also went into the boxing record books. Here are the stats: He won a world championship in his sixth weight class to match Oscar De La Hoya's record. He now has won titles at flyweight (112 pounds), junior featherweight (122), featherweight (126), junior lightweight (130), lightweight (135) and junior welterweight (140). He also became the first fighter in boxing history to earn recognition as the lineal champion (the people's champion or the man who beat the man who beat the man or the real champion -- however you want to categorize it) in four divisions (112, 126, 130, 140). Further, it was Pacquiao's fourth win in a row in a different division (130, 135, 147, 140). He jumped up to welterweight in December and sent De La Hoya into retirement before dropping down for his first fight at 140 pounds, where Hatton had reigned as king for the past several years. But he proved no match for Pacquiao.

The PacMan simply ran roughshod over England's Hatton, who had brought an estimated 25,000 Brits to Las Vegas for the fight, many of whom didn't have tickets to the sold-out arena (16,262) but just wanted to be in town for the spectacular atmosphere of a big fight. No fighter travels his fans better than Hatton, and no fighter leaves his fans more disappointed in a big spot than Hatton. Many of those fans also had crossed the pond in 2007 to see Hatton get knocked out by then-No. 1 fighter Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a welterweight title fight in the same MGM Grand ring. But Pacquiao didn't need the 10 rounds Mayweather did. Pacquiao took him out in less than two rounds in a ruthless performance.

Under trainer Freddie Roach, who predicted a stoppage win for Pacquiao inside three rounds, Pacquiao has become a two-handed fighter. He used to be nothing but a left-handed fighter. Now, the blazing fast southpaw is a two-fisted machine. His right hook scored the first knockdown in the opening round, and Hatton was done after that. A second knockdown followed with a left hand. Then late in the second round, which Pacquiao was dominating, he landed a left cross that might be one of the greatest knockout punches ever in a big fight. The shot caught Hatton square on the jaw, and he was out before he hit the canvas. Upon impact, Hatton's head smashed the mat in a brutal scene. Referee Kenny Bayless, who is one of the best, didn't bother to count. Hatton was motionless in the center of the ring and needed medical attention after what is so far the clear knockout of the year.

Hatton had a great run, winning titles in two divisions, making tens of millions of dollars and drawing some of the greatest crowds in boxing. But his run at the top looks like it's over. Maybe he will fight again, but it's clear he never again will be on this level. If he does fight again, you can bank on trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. being fired. The self-anointed greatest trainer in the world talked the talk and insulted Roach at every turn, but when it was go time, he crapped out and deserves to take his share of the blame for the loss.

As for Pacquiao, he rules boxing in the post-De La Hoya era. The fight the world wants to see is him against Floyd Mayweather Jr., who announced his unretirement hours before this fight. He'll take on old Pacquiao rival Juan Manuel Marquez on July 18. The winner, especially if it's Mayweather, against Pacquiao will be by far the biggest fight in boxing. It will happen eventually, because the money is just too great for it not to happen.
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Junior lightweight
Humberto Soto TKO9 Benoit Gaudet
Retains a junior lightweight title
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Soto, 48-7-2, 31 KOs; Gaudet, 20-2, 7 KOs
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Rafael's remark: The way Soto ended this fight made up for the lack of action before the big knockout. But the lack of action wasn't Soto's fault. It was Gaudet's; the 2004 Canadian Olympian was on the defensive and running almost from the outset. Soto knocked him down with a tremendous left hand 30 seconds into the fight and put him on the defensive. Gaudet, 29, regrouped but had nothing to offer offensively. So Mexico's Soto, 28, stalked him until finally knocking him down twice in the ninth round. They both were hard knockdowns, so after the second one, when Gaudet had zero chance to win, referee Jay Nady mercifully called off the fight. It was a solid win for Soto, who was not originally intended to fight on the card. He defended his title for the first time March 28 by knocking out Antonio Davis in the fourth round on a Top Rank PPV show. But when featherweight titlist Steven Luevano pulled out of his co-featured fight on this undercard because of a back injury, Top Rank brought Soto right back. Soto is the class of the 130-pound division, but there are no really significant fights for him, so he probably will need to go to lightweight, where a fight against Top Rank stablemate and titleholder Edwin Valero sure would be exciting.
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Middleweight
Daniel Jacobs W8 Michael Walker
Scores: 80-72 (twice), 79-73
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Jacobs, 16-0, 14 KOs; Walker, 19-2-2, 12 KOs
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Rafael's remark: For the first 14 fights of Jacobs' career, the former amateur standout from Brooklyn, N.Y., was matched very softly by Golden Boy. But then he took a solid step up against Jose Varela on April 24 and knocked him out cold in two rounds on ESPN2. When junior middleweight contender James Kirkland, a convicted felon on probation, landed in a Texas jail after being charged with possession of a firearm, he was scratched from his fight with Walker, 30, and Jacobs quickly was added to the show. So eight days after smashing Varela, Jacobs, 22, was right back in the ring, taking a significant step up in competition. Once again, he passed with flying colors. Walker has a great chin, so his going the distance in the lopsided fight was no surprise. But Jacobs got in much-needed rounds and continued on his path to possible stardom. Good performance, especially under the circumstances.
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Middleweight
Matvey Korobov TKO2 Anthony Bartinelli
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Korobov, 5-0, 5 KOs; Bartinelli, 20-13-2, 13 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Korobov is one exciting prospect. The 26-year-old 2008 Russian Olympian has looked outstanding since turning pro in November. He is just so darn strong and has such fast hands. Top Rank is going to move him quickly because he is a little older and has a vast amateur background. Bartinelli, a tough, game guy, simply had no prayer, even though he fought his heart out. Bartinelli took the fight on a few days' notice when Rodrigo Aguiar fell out. But Bartinelli could have had a year's notice and it would have made no difference. Korobov, in his first fight since parting with trainer Dan Birmingham and having his father, George Korobov, take over the corner, battered Bartinelli. The southpaw dished out huge punishment in the first round with shots from both hands that rocked Bartinelli's head back and forth like he was a cartoon character. In the second round, Korobov knocked him down with a fast straight left hand and was teeing off on him during a follow-up attack when referee Robert Byrd saved him. Korobov will be right back in action on the June 13 Miguel Cotto-Joshua Clottey undercard at New York's Madison Square Garden. If you could buy stock in a fighter, Korobov's would be right there at the top of the order.
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Junior middleweight
Erislandy Lara W4 Chris Gray
Scores: 40-36 (three times)
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Lara, 5-0, 3 KOs; Gray, 11-8, 1 KO
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Rafael's remark: Lara was one of the many terrific Cuban amateur standouts, having won the 2005 world amateur championship. The southpaw would have been the gold-medal favorite at the 2008 Beijing Olympics, but he didn't compete. In 2007, he tried to defect during the Pan American Games in Brazil, got caught, was kicked off the team and was sent back to Cuba. Eventually, he did defect and now is in America, signed with Golden Boy Promotions and Arena Box and managed by Shelly Finkel and Luis DeCubas Jr. He has the team behind him and the talent to go a long way and do so quickly. Gray is an awkward opponent and hard to look good against, so Lara didn't show any of the explosiveness he has shown in some of his other pro fights, but he still won easily and was never threatened. It was a big week for Lara. Besides a televised fight on a huge card, he also got married Thursday in a Las Vegas chapel.
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Junior welterweight
Mike Alvarado W8 Juaquin Gallardo
Scores: 80-71 (twice), 79-72
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Alvarado, 26-0, 18 KOs; Gallardo, 18-8-1, 5 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Denver's Alvarado, 28, turned in a solid performance against the game Gallardo to earn his way into an important fight. With the win in the bank and former titleholder Paulie Malignaggi having won a fight April 25, the stage is set for Alvarado to face Malignaggi on June 27 in Atlantic City, N.J., on the Kelly Pavlik-Sergio Mora Top Rank PPV undercard. Alvarado dropped Gallardo, 32, with a flush overhand right to the chin in the second round, but Gallardo is tough. Although Alvarado was on the attack most of the fight, he couldn't finish him. But he won easily despite some swelling under his left eye. Gallardo lost for the fourth time in five fights.
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Bantamweight
Abner Mares TKO6 Jonathan Perez
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Mares, 18-0, 11 KOs; Perez, 14-6, 11 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Welcome back to Mares, the 23-year-old 2004 Mexican Olympian. As one of Golden Boy's prized prospects, he was on the verge of a title shot last year. He had been looking good and was slated to fight in October on the Bernard Hopkins-Kelly Pavlik undercard when he suffered a retina injury in his left eye while training. He was scratched from the show and his career was in doubt. But he was cleared to return and fought for the first time since June 2008. Mares looked good in dismantling the tough Perez, 22, of Colombia. Although Perez didn't go down, he had taken a lot of heavy shots when his corner stopped the fight after the sixth round. It was Perez's sixth loss in his past eight fights. Hopefully, Mares' eye comes out of the fight OK so he can resume a busy schedule and regain his form.
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Featherweight
Bernabe Concepcion W6 Yogli Herrera
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Concepcion, 29-1-1, 17 KOs; Herrera, 21-9, 15 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Trainer Freddie Roach went 2-for-2 on the card. Besides the huge win in the main event, one of his other Filipino fighters, Concepcion, easily defeated Herrera with a workmanlike effort. Concepcion, 21, won every round and closed the Colombian's left eye by battering it repeatedly. Concepcion originally was scheduled to challenge featherweight titlist Steven Luevano in the pay-per-view co-feature. However, Luevano suffered a back injury and the fight was called off. Top Rank kept Concepcion on the card but in a lesser fight. When Luevano recovers, Top Rank probably will reschedule the bout.
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Saturday at Bremen, Germany
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Bantamweight
Anselmo Moreno W12 Wladimir Sidorenko
Retains a bantamweight title
Scores: 115-112, 115-114 Moreno, 115-113 Sidorenko
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Moreno, 25-1-1, 8 KOs; Sidorenko, 21-2-2, 7 KOs
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Rafael's remark: In May 2008, Panama's Moreno did something extremely difficult: He went to Germany and won a title on a decision against Sidorenko, the house fighter. Now, making his third defense, Moreno, 23, returned to Germany for a rematch with Sidorenko, who hadn't fought since their first encounter. Moreno won again but this time on a split decision. Wonders will never cease. Sidorenko pressed the action in the first half of the fight, but then Moreno picked up the pace and was landing more as he raised a mouse under Sidorenko's right eye in the ninth round.
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Friday at Las Vegas
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Lightweight
Urbano Antillon TKO5 Tyrone Harris
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Antillon, 26-0, 19 KOs; Harris, 23-5, 15 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Antillon is one of the more exciting lightweights and continues to draw near a title opportunity. Headlining on Azteca America, Antillon, 26, took care of Harris, 28, when he dropped him twice in the fifth round before referee Tony Weeks called it off. Antillon certainly was ready to go for this fight after spending time in Manny Pacquiao's training camp as one of his sparring partners while PacMan prepared for the fight with Ricky Hatton.
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Welterweight
Alfonso Gomez TKO8 Juan Buendia
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Gomez, 19-4-2, 9 KOs; Buendia, 14-3-1, 8 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Gomez, the 28-year-old star of the first season of "The Contender," hadn't fought since being thoroughly dominated en route to a fifth-round knockout loss to Miguel Cotto in a welterweight title fight in April 2008. Now with Top Rank after cutting ties with Tournament of Contenders, Gomez returned to action. And action it was. Both men were cut by accidental head clashes in the action fight. As the blood flowed, Gomez dropped Buendia with a left hook to the body. Although he made it to his feet, he made it clear to the referee he didn't want to continue and the fight was called off. Buendia, 28, lost his second in a row and fell to 1-3-1 with a no contest in his past six fights. Gomez could loom as a future opponent for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in a fight that would unquestionably be exciting.
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Friday at Santa Ynez, Calif.
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Welterweight
Carlos Abregu TKO4 Irving Garcia
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Abregu, 27-0, 22 KOs; Garcia, 17-4-3, 8 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Whatever money these guys made from their "ShoBox" main event, they deserve a bonus. What a fight. They both gave everything they had in a rousing slugfest that will be on the list of fights of the year as Abregu survived two knockdowns and Garcia also went down. Puerto Rico's Garcia, 30, the vastly more experienced fighter against quality competition, looked tremendous early when he dropped Argentina's Abregu, 25, with a flush right hand to the jaw in the first round. Abregu, who had former welterweight champion and countryman Carlos Baldomir working in his corner, went down to the seat of his pants and was hurt. But Abregu survived to set the stage for the wild second round, a round of the year candidate. For most of the round, Abregu was battering Garcia with abandon when out of nowhere, with about 45 seconds left in the round, Garcia landed a desperation right hand that rocked Abregu and sent him reeling backwards and had him in trouble. In the fourth, Garcia dropped Abregu again with a terrific left hook. Abregu was in deep trouble, but he dug down and unleashed a flurry before finally flooring Garcia with an uppercut. Garcia came to rest leaning against a corner pole with blood streaming down his face when referee Jack Reiss called it off. Great stuff.
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Lightweight
Marvin Quintero W8 Wes Ferguson
Scores: 79-73, 78-74 (twice)
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Quintero, 16-1, 12 KOs; Ferguson, 20-4-1, 6 KOs
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Rafael's remark: In the "ShoBox" opener, Mexico's Quintero, 22, easily outpointed Ferguson, the 23-year-old Floyd Mayweather Jr. protege, in an entertaining fight. Ferguson, a standout amateur who has not seen that success translate in the pro ranks, got in his licks, but Quintero, who sparred with Ricky Hatton, was more aggressive and a harder puncher. It was a solid victory for Quintero, who took another step up in competition following his January third-round knockout of Nick Casal. Although Quintero has been effective at lightweight, he is considering moving down to junior lightweight following this fight.
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Featherweight
Gary Russell Jr. W4 Alvaro Muro
Scores: 40-35 (three times)
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Rafael's remark: Russell, 20, rolled to the lopsided victory. The 2008 U.S. Olympian, who turned pro in January, dropped Muro, 31, in the third round with a left hand and went on for the shutout decision. Promoter Gary Shaw will keep him busy with a roughly once-a-month fighting schedule.
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Thursday at Panama City
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Junior featherweight
Celestino Caballero W12 Jeffery Mathebula
Retains unified junior featherweight title
Scores: 116-112 Caballero (twice), 116-112 Mathebula
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Rafael's remark: Panama's Caballero was lucky to keep his unified belts after getting a definite run for his money from South African mandatory challenger Mathebula. Remember, this fight was originally scheduled to take place in Florida on Showtime, but that was before the government of Panama put up a lot more money to bring the bout home to help open the new Roberto Duran Arena, named after the nation's favorite boxing hero. Had Mathebula, 29, fought Caballero on neutral territory, there's a pretty good chance he would have left the ring with the belts. Caballero, 32, who was defending the unified belts for the first time since he knocked out Steve Molitor in the fourth round of their unification fight in November, started well by putting several early rounds in the bank. But with Caballero tiring and Mathebula hanging tough, the challenger came on in the second half of the fight to beat the fading Caballero to the punch. It should come as no surprise that two judges split along nationalistic lines, with Hector Afu of Panama giving it to Caballero and judge Deaon Dwarte of South Africa going with Mathebula. The tiebreaker was American Patricia Morse Jarman. It seems as though maybe it's time for Caballero, freakishly tall for a 122-pounder at 5-foot-11, to move up in weight after so much time draining himself to make 122. There has been talk of a step up to 126 pounds to face exciting interim beltholder Yuriorkis Gamboa on HBO or Showtime later in the year.
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Thursday at Bangkok
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Junior featherweight
Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym TKO9 Rafael Hernandez
Wins a vacant interim junior featherweight title
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Rafael's remark: Fighting before his home crowd in Thailand, Kratingdaenggym wore down Venezuela's inexperienced Hernandez for the late stoppage. But here we go again. Kratingdaenggym claimed yet another ludicrous WBA belt. Maybe I sound like a broken record, but the WBA gives out title belts the way McDonald's gives out ketchup packets. With Kratingdaenggym's silly belt, the WBA recognizes three titleholders in the 122-pound division. There's unified "super champion" Celestino Caballero, who happened to defend his title on the same day. And there is "regular" titleholder Bernard Dunne. Throw in Kratingdaenggym's status, and that is three. What a disgusting joke. Anyone who takes the WBA seriously should be committed for a thorough mental exam.
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Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

They were saying last nite if pac andPBF were to agree, u gotta look for it in early 2010

why tho? floyd fight is in 2 months if he wins that you can make the Manny VS PBF for Nov-dec. top rank can talk all the BS they want they will NOT make a Manny fight till they see the results of that one.


You know if JMM wins that one, Mosley and Pacquaio will be set for November

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Yo, I actually would be interested in Gomez vs JCC JR

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If he does fight again, you can bank on trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. being fired. The self-anointed greatest trainer in the world talked the talk and insulted Roach at every turn, but when it was go time, he crapped out and deserves to take his share of the blame for the loss.
hatton didnt use ONE THING that floyd told me and taught him to do.

-he was throwing wild and SR told him not to and throw straight

-told him to move his head he didnt move his head

-told him to stop throwing his head foward and he did that

-work the body and didnt do that AT ALL

that fight is on hatton and hatton alone, with credit to manny
 
Dag, my fault guys. It's been a crazy morning, especially for a Monday.

I meant to call Forrest a chump after his descent from prominence and how he disclaimed Augusta as his hometown and training grounds, in addition to thedecision he stole from Quartey on HBO back in summer 2006.

Clottey is good money, too. I honestly got them mixed up with some actual chumps.

Proshares, if you can get the tickets, I will make it to NYC just for that fight, LOL.
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Yo, I also think it's cool that someone brought Baldomir back into the discussion. He would be a good warm-up for PacMan, if not PB, IMHO.
 
I dont know why anyone thought Hatton would win... I called Manny KO'ing his bum %*! early. Dude has always been overrated. Watching 24/7 had a lot ofdudes gassed thinking he was gonna be a different fighter cause of Floyd Sr.... Yeah rite, he was the same str8 forward idiot in the Malinaggi fight with FloydSr training him.
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

I dont know why anyone thought Hatton would win... I called Manny KO'ing his bum %*! early. Dude has always been overrated. Watching 24/7 had a lot of dudes gassed thinking he was gonna be a different fighter cause of Floyd Sr.... Yeah rite, he was the same str8 forward idiot in the Malinaggi fight with Floyd Sr training him.
You've never lied. I think they confused him with another prominent Anglo-Saxon fighter from the UK...
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You know if JMM wins that one, Mosley and Pacquaio will be set for November
It's starting to look more and more like we'll never see JMM/Pac 3. Huge disappointment.

Yo, I actually would be interested in Gomez vs JCC JR
It'll be a brawl but on Top Rank PPV? No thanks, unless the undercard has at least 3 solid fights as well.

Proshares, if you can get the tickets, I will make it to NYC just for that fight, LOL.
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I keep getting shot down with all this PBF talk I doubt it'lleven happen. But if it does I'll keep it posted.

Dan was talking about some great fights that can be made:

Soto/Valero

Concepcion/Luevano

Boxing is having a great year so far
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what you guys think about andre ward? i saw couple of his fights live when he just started his professional career a few years back, when he came back from 04olympic..i think dudes an up and coming star ..he's fighting edison miranda soon
 
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