09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime

[gunna get it]

I think Ward is gonna get knocked out. *shrugs* but Miranda is a loose cannon so him doin some outlandish !+!$ asnd getting ko'd wouldnt surprise me either

 

[eagle 0n]

Uncle Roger taking shots at Angelo Dundee

 

[gunna get it]

#@#@! aint Lyin ...

"you blowin it son, you blowin it..."

 

[sir rob a lot]

Originally Posted by yungmatt

I dont know why anyone thought Hatton would win... I called Manny KO'ing his bum %*! early. Dude has always been overrated. Watching 24/7 had a lot of dudes gassed thinking he was gonna be a different fighter cause of Floyd Sr.... Yeah rite, he was the same str8 forward idiot in the Malinaggi fight with Floyd Sr training him.

Dudes picking Hatton were just Pac haters or just trying to be different. Hatton, IMO, is very underrated. Dude WAS a legit champ that not a lotof American boxing fans knew of or respected.


Quick question: Why is Pac's victory ruled a TKO and not a KO? Does the ref really have to count to 10 for it be a KO?

 

[sir rob a lot]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

I think Ward is gonna get knocked out.

I got 'Dre outclassing Miranda and winning by UD.

 

[lesfamilia]

^I think the referees were just being technical for their and the promoters' own sakes. They didn't want to make it seem like the fight was a wash forall the buyers, even if the casual boxing fan already knew otherwise.

I think Miranda's hot head is going to keep him from winning. He's probably going to end up slugging Ward instead of boxing him. I got Ward with the W.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

TKO is often used for stoppages where dude is out cold and ref doesn't even bother counting. Most of the time it goes down as a KO, but i've seen a fewfights ruled TKO's where the ref would have got to 10, but didn't even bother counting. Also, it might have been the ref jumped in as the punch thatsent hatton down as being thrown, which would be a TKO ala Jermain Taylor vs. Kelly Pavlik 1. Pone De Leon vs. Rey Bautista was ruled a TKO because the refstopped it right when Bautista went down a 2nd time and didn't even bother to count. Duran-Hearns was also called a TKO even though Duran went fface firstinto the canvas and wasn't getting up on his own anytime soon.

 

[bigmike23]

EAGLE 0N wrote:

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Uncle Roger taking shots at Angelo Dundee

 

[jae oh en]

sorry for slightly sidetracking the thread with this, but just got a quick question.

anyone ever gone to a fight in vegas? im curious to know how the ticket buying process works for a big fight. mainly asking when do tix typically go on sale,do they usually sell out with the quickness? we booked a trip to vegas last week and now that the weekend we are heading out there is also the same weekend asthe PBF/marquez fight, we might look into buying some tickets for it. if it's too crazy we might just settle with trying to get into the weigh in.

just wondering if anyone could share their experiences with it. it's greatly appreciated.

 

[mextra45]

My dude Roger i swear they need a reality show but he wasnt lying though Dundee is know as motivator probably as much a trainer he still great though


Jae I went to Vegas to see Casamayor /Corrales 3 i just got my Tx from Ticketmaster . best bet is to try and get tickets earl as possible as sometimes theCasino give out a bunch of tickets to high rollers and the ones Left are priced crazy . But its fun as hell Pretty much hang out in the Hotel the fight is nearand you will see the fighters walking through and other fighter or trainers just hanging out most of them are real cool and will talk with you .

 

[jagshemash]

Originally Posted by jae oh en

sorry for slightly sidetracking the thread with this, but just got a quick question.

anyone ever gone to a fight in vegas? im curious to know how the ticket buying process works for a big fight. mainly asking when do tix typically go on sale, do they usually sell out with the quickness? we booked a trip to vegas last week and now that the weekend we are heading out there is also the same weekend as the PBF/marquez fight, we might look into buying some tickets for it. if it's too crazy we might just settle with trying to get into the weigh in.

just wondering if anyone could share their experiences with it. it's greatly appreciated.

I'm about 99% sure the tickets will be sold through ticketmaster. Hatton-Pac tickets "sold out" the first day but that's alittle deceptive. What actually happens is the promotional companies hold tickets for various groups, vips, etc. and a lot of the tickets are sold in bulk to"ticket brokers" (organized scalpers) and only a small number of tickets were available for the general public. So even though all the tickets aresold, all the seats aren't accounted for since they also have to be sold in the after market to the final consumer. This fight probably isn't going toqualify as a "super fight" where there's going to be the same demand as Mayweather-DLH, Hatton-Pac, etc. so you might be able to get tickets fromticketmaster without much problem. If the tickets do sell out my advice would be to wait the day of the fight when the scalpers are trying to dump theirtickets and they'll often let them go for a fraction of the face value. Craigslist would be a good place to look. I know of a person who got $1200 facevalue tickets for $200 the day of the Pacman-DLH fight by doing this.

 

[dako akong otin]

its been 2 days after the Pac/Hatton fight.... and if you guys in the states are sick of the Pacquiao news... try living here in Pac country! I love thedude like every other pure-blood pinoy... but ... everwhere i go

gyms, malls, office, coffee shops, gas stations.... all i hear is Manny, Hatton, left hands, right hooks, Roach, Mayweather... enough already! My mom and her60 yr old friends are analyzing the fight for chrissakes... talkin about right hooks were the key

... i tried changing the subject to Lakers Rockets..... .even LBJ winningmvp.. but it all goes back to Manny..... then him eventually becoming congressman, aaand what happens to his money, his kids, his wife, can he cure swineflu, can he prevent the end of the world at 2012... omg... stop!

 

[hueyp in louiev]

While addressing the media, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. said "I beat fighters and turn them into b_s and they go out and put on fish-nets. That's what I do." This was obviously a slap at Oscar De La Hoya after the infamous internet scandal which purported to depict the Golden Boy in panty hose, pictures whose validity has been questioned.

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[dako akong otin]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

EAGLE 0N wrote:

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Uncle Roger taking shots at Angelo Dundee

seriously though...�� during the Pac/DLH 24/7...� only thing Dundee said was "I think Oscar may win because, he fought alot of tough guys, but then Mannyhas also fought alot of tough guys"���� I don't remember him giving any other input aside from that

 

[sylvestermcgrizzly]

Floyd is a fool for that one

Hatton was done..of course I was in a home where everyone is goin for Hatton...similar to the last big fight hatton was inand we all kno what happened then...my boy BM sittin there high singing that damn Ricky Hatton song before the fight...

....of course when that right hitem in the 1st, everyone was silent...Hatton is in the same boat as Jermain being that they both won't have any other big fights in their career

watchedWilbon on PTI jus completely dismiss Floyd if he were to fight Pac man

...

 

[sylvestermcgrizzly]

Floyd is a fool for that one

Hatton was done..of course I was in a home where everyone is goin for Hatton...similar to the last big fight hatton was inand we all kno what happened then...my boy BM sittin there high singing that damn Ricky Hatton song before the fight...

....of course when that right hitem in the 1st, everyone was silent...Hatton is in the same boat as Jermain being that they both won't have any other big fights in their career

watchedWilbon on PTI jus completely dismiss Floyd if he were to fight Pac man

...

 

[hueyp in louiev]

watched Wilbon on PTI jus completely dismiss Floyd if he were to fight Pac man
That made me change the channel.

These dudes completely down play and insult boxing for years...then they see a glimpse of why we have been hooked forever (even through the lean years) andthey just insult all real boxing fans by spewing a bunched of hyped up stupidity.

Either commentate on boxing with the same intelligence and insight as every other sport....or just leave it alone.

We've been doing fine without ESPN for commentary for a decade.

 

[revelation218]

Bigmike23 wrote:

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EAGLE 0N wrote:

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Uncle Roger taking shots at Angelo Dundee

I wonder what�kind of atmosphere the Mayweathers were raised in.��PBF, his dad, his uncle�all show a very disturbing INFERIORITY COMPLEX that�they have to putsomeone down�or say something�bad about�someone�just so they can�actually highlight themselves.��The upbringing is definitely a big mishap.�

Why would you disrespect Angelo Dundee?? What did he ever do to the Mayweathers??�

Arrogance�will lead to their downfall soon, somehow I�am hoping for it
��

 

[jagshemash]

Originally Posted by revelation218

Bigmike23 wrote:

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EAGLE 0N wrote:

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Uncle Roger taking shots at Angelo Dundee

I wonder what�kind of atmosphere the Mayweathers were raised in.��PBF, his dad, his uncle�all show a very disturbing INFERIORITY COMPLEX that�they have to put someone down�or say something�bad about�someone�just so they can�actually highlight themselves.��The upbringing is definitely a big mishap.�

Why would you disrespect Angelo Dundee?? What did he ever do to the Mayweathers??�

Arrogance�will lead to their downfall soon, somehow I�am hoping for it
��

Don't take it so seriously.� It's just talk and helps sell fights. Mayweather Jr. likes to play the villain but he almost always changes his tune afterthe fights and shows some respect.�

On another note, I find Mayweather Jr's trashtalking weak.� I don't think I've ever cracked a smile from anything he's said....it's thekind of talk that gets under people's skin because it's annoying, there's no real intimidation.�

 

[bigmike23]

the manny fight is over go take your clown +!$ back into your cave till the next time he **%!%!% fights clown


for all the loud month *!$+ talking Floyd SR and JR and roger does 9/10 its 100 fact.

-they dog DLH and Freddie and everything was 100% true

-they dog the hell out of hatton and his trainer everything was 100% true

- did u even hear what they said about dundee? why do u think everyone was laughing so hard? BECAUSE ITS TRUE


people hear them talk *!$+ and think thats all they are about

 

[trasoul82]

Originally Posted by Jagshemash


Don't take it so seriously.� It's just talk and helps sell fights. Mayweather Jr. likes to play the villain but he almost always changes his tune after the fights and shows some respect.�

On another note, I find Mayweather Jr's trashtalking weak.� I don't think I've ever cracked a smile from anything he's said....it's the kind of talk that gets under people's skin because it's annoying, there's no real intimidation.�

Mayweather's trash talk has never really been about intimidation. He's not a knockout artist and he doesn't have the hardest of hands.But he is smart enough to know that an irritated fighter is not a focused fighter.

 

[jagshemash]

Sure, that's the point of trashtalking and he does seem to get under people's skin, so you can say it's effective. I just think he's corny soas a fan of boxing it doesn't really do anything for me. I'm not a Mayweather hater, I've always had great respect for what he does inside thering and I enjoy seeing him do his thing. I just don't care for his whole persona and some of the decisions he makes.

 

[bigmike23]

this is what SR told hatton between rounds

At the end of the first round, here are Floyd Sr. direct quotes to Ricky, "Man, That's why I was telling you about moving your head man. You got move your head, you have to fake and feint. You have to feint and make and then touch. You just trying to fall in like that and over power him. You wont overpower him. keep your hands up man, You should have been listening at me from day one."

 

[jagshemash]

New Ring Magazine P4P list. Not sure why Floyd isn't on there since this was made on the 3rd...maybe he'll be added next time.

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/

[h1]Pound For Pound[/h1] [h2]All Weights[/h2]

• [h1]1. Manny Pacquiao[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Philippines[/h2] [h3]Record: 48-3-2 (37 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 283[/h3] [h4]Titles: The Ring[/h4]
• [h1]2. Juan Manuel Marquez[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Mexico[/h2] [h3]Record: 50-4-1 (37 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 112[/h3] [h4]Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring[/h4]
• [h1]3. Bernard Hopkins[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)[/h2] [h3]Record: 49-5-1 (32 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 152[/h3]
• [h1]4. Shane Mosley[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)[/h2] [h3]Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 15[/h3] [h4]Titles: WBA[/h4]
• [h1]5. Israel Vazquez[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Mexico[/h2] [h3]Record: 43-4-0 (31 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 92[/h3] [h4]Titles: The Ring[/h4]
• [h1]6. Rafael Marquez[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Mexico[/h2] [h3]Record: 37-5-0 (33 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 50[/h3]
• [h1]7. Miguel Cotto[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Puerto Rico[/h2] [h3]Record: 33-1-0 (27 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1[/h3] [h4]Titles: WBO[/h4]
• [h1]8. Nonito Donaire[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Philippines[/h2] [h3]Record: 21-1-0 (14 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1[/h3] [h4]Titles: IBF[/h4]
• [h1]9. Vic Darchinyan[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Armenia[/h2] [h3]Record: 32-1-1 (26 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 13[/h3] [h4]Titles: WBA, IBF, WBC[/h4]
• [h1]10. Celestino Caballero[/h1]
  
  [h2]Country: Panama[/h2] [h3]Record: 31-2-0 (22 KOs)[/h3] [h3]Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 15[/h3] [h4]Titles: WBA, IBF[/h4]

 

[bigmike23]

who the hell is Celestino Caballero?