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Originally Posted by yungmatt

I had the fight a draw

7 rounds to 5 for Clottey with the 10-8 1st round


Cosign. Cotto did not win that fight by no means. At best it was a draw. Imo
 
Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Damn and I was going to Vegas that weekend
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Me too.

Since PBF/JMM will not happen until most likely September, I think we will see Shane/PacMan in October. And we can all hope and pray for PBF/Cotto fight inJan./Feb.
 
Damn, I was kinda hyped to see Floyd back in 24/7 in a few weeks.

I wanna know if son got his ribs hurt from sparring.
 
Post fight vs Cotto

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Wraps taken from the Mosley fight
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Notice what appears to be the same bloodstain
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Great fight last night. They're both two of my favorite fighters so it was hard to root against either but I had to back Cotto being at the Garden andall. I didn't keep track of the score during the fight but I knew it was close. I watched it tonight and gave it to Cotto 114-113 but I would no problemwith anyone giving it to Clottey. Nice to see Clottey finally get a chance to shine but he'll now probably be the most avoided guy in boxing other thanmaybe Williams.

Some pics from the Boxing Writers Association of America awards dinner & the fight






Manny...
 
I'm a Cotto fan, but I think he lost that fight. You have to give him credit for going the length with that huge cut, but Clottey was the aggressor inmajority of the fight. He didn't close, but I still think he should've won.
 
Make this %$+%*!% happen!
Joshua Clottey Targets Paul Williams, Wants Him Next
Posted by: Mark Vester on 06-15-2009.


By Mark Vester

If Joshua Clottey is unable to secure a rematch with WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, he wants to target the one man that nobody else wants to fight - Paul "The Punisher" Williams. Clottey lost a close split-decision to Cotto last Saturday in New York's Madison Square Garden. He believes that he was robbed by the judges and the ref was too scared to take a point away from Cotto.

Clottey has a lot of respect for Cotto and his skills, but he felt the ref should have taken a point away for the tackle that hurt his knee, and when Cotto sent him down from a punch to the back of the head. He said the ref was scared of the near 18,000 Cotto fans in attendance.

"He's a good fighter, I can't take that away from him. Boxing is a very tough sport. So when a fighter comes out you have to give him a congratulations whether you win, lose or draw. He's very tough so I respect him. I hit my knee on the floor [when Cotto threw him down] so I thought the referee would do something about this but the people were bullying [him]. The referee was scared to do something. And [Cotto] hit the back of my head and the referee was scared, he did nothing. He was scared of the people, that the people were going to fight him," Clottey said to BoxingScene.com's Jose Aguirre.

Last year Clottey was trying to land a fight with Paul Williams. He tells BoxingScene that he still wants that fight.

"I want to fight Paul Williams very, very much. I want to fight that guy. I want to fight Paul Williams. He's a weak welterweight. He's a weak welterweight so I want to fight him," Clottey said.

Send News Tips and Comments To Mark Vester @ [email protected]
 
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we just saw this fight happen... Winky vs Paul, same exact fight

A Boring One sided Domination.

Great Pictures
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Im sayin how do u find time to take pics during the fight... I brought the Camera with me to Last Fight and didnt once even think of takin it out
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the Antonio Handwraps.. GOT'EM
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Cheatin +!@ Chump
 
Great Pics , as far as the handwraps go you cant just blame the fighter he doesnt wrap his own hands , if somethng becomes routine you dont even think about it. You can blame the trainer and the commission for not doing there job . Its old news he has been suspended and his old trainer has been fired . And Clotteyisnt a big puncher any way who was the last guy he stopped a Faded Diego Corrales ?

Williams beats Clottey allday he outworks him to a easy dec.
 
Thanks guys
m sayin how do u find time to take pics during the fight... I brought the Camera with me to Last Fight and didnt once even think of takin it out
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I know what you mean...I usually only take a few pics at the beginning of the first round or when the action stops because I don't want tomiss anything.
 
Originally Posted by TCERDA


Great Pics Jagshemash!!!
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Thanks for sharing!!

Yup.

Great pics Jags
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Also, Cotto needs to leave his 'yes men' home and get a real corner crew.
His current team is pitiful.

I remember Arum saying he'd have a bunch of world class trainers lined up for Cotto after his fight with Clottey.

But I think Cotto might be contempt with Joe Santiago in his corner.
 
Originally Posted by EAGLE 0N

But I think Cotto might be contempt cool with Joe Santiago in his corner.
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Loyalty.

Ride with the dude that been riding with you since your amateur days. I think I was the only one that probably was SMH @ Hatton when he dumped his oldtrainer for Mayweather Sr.
 
Yall know cotto basicaly trains himself, did u hear the instructions he was getting between rounds
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Laughable.

His people give him no insight or change in game plan or things to tweak in his original plan.
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you know if this pac/cotto fight happens... this will be the first time i'll cheer against pacquiao. And I'm not even close to being a Cotto fan. Icheered against him when he fought Judah, Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey.

But the pacquiao nut-riding here is getting worse. Local media been bashing Arum for putting Cotto in Pacquiao's level when he made that statement aboutbeing an even fight. One guy compared him to David Diaz
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here is the article:

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[h2]Cotto-Bobby Pacquiao dead-even fight[/h2]By Recah Trinidad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:14:00 06/16/2009

Filed Under: Boxing

PROMOTER cum lauded Bob Arum, no doubt, has the highest respect for world boxing pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao.

But Arum will have to elaborate on what he honestly thinks of Pacquiao as a fighter following his latest pronouncement.

Arum made a shocking claim in New York on Saturday (Sunday in Manila) which sent many Pacquiao diehards wondering what the revered promoter was up to.

* * *

Arum was only kidding?

"He (Cotto) and Pacquiao is a dead-even fight," Arum was quoted by the Associated Press as saying.

Maybe Arum thought nobody was listening when he made that lofty assessment of Cotto, who's also under contract with Top Rank.

Problem is the whole world heard what Arum claimed he thought of both Pacquiao and Cotto.

* * *

The unbelievable comment came on Sunday, after a bloodied Cotto eked out a contested split decision win over Josh Clottey of Ghana at the Madison Square Garden.

Arum was at ringside with Pacquiao to watch the main event.

But it's easy to believe Pacquiao was not within hearing distance.

* * *

Anyway, knowing Pacquiao, the Filipino boxing icon would've humbly smiled off the Arum comment, if it ever reached his hears.

Here at home, Pacquiao fanatics have every reason to feel insulted.

Of course, Filipino fans, who Arum claims he truly adores, are not expected to raise hell.

But these same fans will not hesitate to tell Arum that Pacquiao deserves a worthier opponent.

* * *

It's like this: In displaying faded skills, Cotto, although physically bigger, visibly disqualified himself as a decent candidate for Pacquiao's next foe.

In fact, there followed suspicions that all Arum plans to give Pacquiao is another punching picnic, a final ring outing for the year, before the Pacman joins the 2010 political race.

There are only very few fans who believe that Cotto will not turn into another swollen statue like David Diaz, who got stunned stiff after Pacquiao exploded with blinding fistic fireworks.

* * *

Now, if Arum honestly wants to enhance Pacquiao's chances in the political ring, he should think of a worthier foe, without insulting the intelligence of Filipino fans.

The way things appeared after Cotto's flat-out win in New York, Arum was caught peddling silly tough steak with that #++@-eyed line.

Arum had also been suspected of trying to grow a longer nose than Pinocchio's by Sir Michael Marley, the famous ringside wit who writes for boxingconfidential.com.

Arum has no choice but to rethink his sales pitch.

Unless he means Bobby Pacquiao, the Pacman's luckless younger brother, is pretty even with the faded Cotto.

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+2]Salud: Pacman deserves 70/30![/size][/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Nick Giongco[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A renowned Filipino boxing figure told Fightnews on Monday that Manny Pacquiao deserves the lion's share of the money in the event a proposed fight with Miguel Cotto is penciled for Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Rudy Salud, who crafted the by-laws of the World Boxing Council (WBC), also stressed that the Filipino pound-for-pound king will easily dispatch the rugged Puerto Rican "provided that they fight at a catch weight of 143 or 144 lbs."[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"It will be a walk in the park," said Salud (
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), who was the WBC's secretary-general from the late 1960s until the early 1970s.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud said Pacquiao should be generous enough to grant Cotto a "30 percent" cut on the total pot "based on Cotto's recent performance."[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Cotto doesn't bring much to the table except his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight title," said Salud, who watched Cotto fight on television against Joshua Clottey and thought that Cotto did enough to merit the decision.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud said outside of Puerto Rico and the New York area, Cotto doesn't have a strong following.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Top Rank chief Bob Arum, who promotes both Pacquiao and Cotto, said he will move heaven and earth to stage the fight on Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas despite the sudden announcement that the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez has been postponed.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud stressed that Pacquiao has the right to demand, saying he is the No. 1 attraction and anybody who challenges him should settle for a far lesser share in the total pot.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Although Salud never had a direct involvement in the way Pacquiao was brought up by his former handlers-led by long-time friend and the semi-retired Rod Nazario-Pacquiao learned a thing or two from Salud's personal and business savvy, having spent some time with Salud during countless affairs and events.[/font]
 
[h2]Mayweather out of action with injury[/h2]

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LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. has damaged cartilage in his ribs and will stop training for his comeback fight until a doctor says he can resume.

Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, told The Associated Press on Monday that Mayweather has been in tremendous pain since suffering the injury during training on Thursday.

"He tried to work through it. He really did not want to postpone the fight, but it came to the point where he could barely sit," Schaefer said. "He could not train, he could not move and there was really not much of a choice."

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Getty ImagesFloyd Mayweather's training has been shut down until his rib cartilage injury heals enough for him to resume.

Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) was scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs) on July 18 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Schaefer said both fighters have committed to rescheduling and a September date has been mentioned. But promoters and the fighters won't agree to a date without the OK of doctors.

Mayweather's ribs are not broken, and the former five-division champ plans to see a doctor this week, Schaefer said. He said he did not know exactly how Mayweather damaged his cartilage.

"Right now he cannot go and train, he cannot work out, he cannot run, he cannot hit the heavy bag and the speed bags and jump ropes and all these kinds of things," Schaefer said. "He definitely will need some additional training but again, Floyd is such an amazing athlete -- and really on top of his game -- that I think it will be relatively easy for him to get right back into it."

Cartilage connects the ribs to the sternum, and can tear away after direct blows to the chest, other trauma or particularly violent coughs and sneezes.

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo injured his rib cartilage during the team's season-ending game at Philadelphia last year, a disastrous 44-6 loss in which Romo fumbled, was sacked and benched. Coach Wade Phillips said a flare-up of the pain caused Romo to collapse in the shower afterward.

Mayweather and Marquez were scheduled to fight at a catch-weight of about 143 pounds, eight more than Marquez has ever fought and the lightest weight for Mayweather since 2005.

Mayweather hasn't boxed since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007. He was slated to fight a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya but instead abruptly retired last June, while still considered the sport's pound-for-pound king.

Now, many believe Manny Pacquiao holds that title after he beat De La Hoya and Hatton in fewer rounds than Mayweather.

It's possible that Mayweather and Pacquiao will eventually meet in the ring if Mayweather beats Marquez first.

But promoter Bob Arum also wants to set up a Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight in November, the earliest Cotto can get back into the ring after the welterweight's win over Joshua Clottey on Saturday.

Cotto won by decision but left Madison Square Garden in New York with a big gash over his left eye that required six stitches.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press
 
Originally Posted by dako akong otin

you know if this pac/cotto fight happens... this will be the first time i'll cheer against pacquiao. And I'm not even close to being a Cotto fan. I cheered against him when he fought Judah, Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey.

But the pacquiao nut-riding here is getting worse. Local media been bashing Arum for putting Cotto in Pacquiao's level when he made that statement about being an even fight. One guy compared him to David Diaz
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here is the article:

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[h2]Cotto-Bobby Pacquiao dead-even fight[/h2]By Recah Trinidad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:14:00 06/16/2009

Filed Under: Boxing

PROMOTER cum lauded Bob Arum, no doubt, has the highest respect for world boxing pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao.

But Arum will have to elaborate on what he honestly thinks of Pacquiao as a fighter following his latest pronouncement.

Arum made a shocking claim in New York on Saturday (Sunday in Manila) which sent many Pacquiao diehards wondering what the revered promoter was up to.

* * *

Arum was only kidding?

"He (Cotto) and Pacquiao is a dead-even fight," Arum was quoted by the Associated Press as saying.

Maybe Arum thought nobody was listening when he made that lofty assessment of Cotto, who's also under contract with Top Rank.

Problem is the whole world heard what Arum claimed he thought of both Pacquiao and Cotto.

* * *

The unbelievable comment came on Sunday, after a bloodied Cotto eked out a contested split decision win over Josh Clottey of Ghana at the Madison Square Garden.

Arum was at ringside with Pacquiao to watch the main event.

But it's easy to believe Pacquiao was not within hearing distance.

* * *

Anyway, knowing Pacquiao, the Filipino boxing icon would've humbly smiled off the Arum comment, if it ever reached his hears.

Here at home, Pacquiao fanatics have every reason to feel insulted.

Of course, Filipino fans, who Arum claims he truly adores, are not expected to raise hell.

But these same fans will not hesitate to tell Arum that Pacquiao deserves a worthier opponent.

* * *

It's like this: In displaying faded skills, Cotto, although physically bigger, visibly disqualified himself as a decent candidate for Pacquiao's next foe.

In fact, there followed suspicions that all Arum plans to give Pacquiao is another punching picnic, a final ring outing for the year, before the Pacman joins the 2010 political race.

There are only very few fans who believe that Cotto will not turn into another swollen statue like David Diaz, who got stunned stiff after Pacquiao exploded with blinding fistic fireworks.

* * *

Now, if Arum honestly wants to enhance Pacquiao's chances in the political ring, he should think of a worthier foe, without insulting the intelligence of Filipino fans.

The way things appeared after Cotto's flat-out win in New York, Arum was caught peddling silly tough steak with that #++@-eyed line.

Arum had also been suspected of trying to grow a longer nose than Pinocchio's by Sir Michael Marley, the famous ringside wit who writes for boxingconfidential.com.

Arum has no choice but to rethink his sales pitch.

Unless he means Bobby Pacquiao, the Pacman's luckless younger brother, is pretty even with the faded Cotto.
and another:
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-2]Jun[/size][/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-2]
2009
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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+2]Salud: Pacman deserves 70/30![/size][/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Nick Giongco[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A renowned Filipino boxing figure told Fightnews on Monday that Manny Pacquiao deserves the lion's share of the money in the event a proposed fight with Miguel Cotto is penciled for Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Rudy Salud, who crafted the by-laws of the World Boxing Council (WBC), also stressed that the Filipino pound-for-pound king will easily dispatch the rugged Puerto Rican "provided that they fight at a catch weight of 143 or 144 lbs."[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"It will be a walk in the park," said Salud (
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), who was the WBC's secretary-general from the late 1960s until the early 1970s.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud said Pacquiao should be generous enough to grant Cotto a "30 percent" cut on the total pot "based on Cotto's recent performance."[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Cotto doesn't bring much to the table except his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight title," said Salud, who watched Cotto fight on television against Joshua Clottey and thought that Cotto did enough to merit the decision.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud said outside of Puerto Rico and the New York area, Cotto doesn't have a strong following.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Top Rank chief Bob Arum, who promotes both Pacquiao and Cotto, said he will move heaven and earth to stage the fight on Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas despite the sudden announcement that the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez has been postponed.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salud stressed that Pacquiao has the right to demand, saying he is the No. 1 attraction and anybody who challenges him should settle for a far lesser share in the total pot.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Although Salud never had a direct involvement in the way Pacquiao was brought up by his former handlers-led by long-time friend and the semi-retired Rod Nazario-Pacquiao learned a thing or two from Salud's personal and business savvy, having spent some time with Salud during countless affairs and events.[/font]





You have to be kidding me with both of these articles. The sad part is that there's people on this board who will say the same garbage.
 
It's sad cause Pacman is a beast, and he's humble too, but his fans are on some other !*%%. But yea, if he steps up to fight Mosely at 147, it'slights out.
 
Y'all dudes really getting all aggy over these articles?
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If Dan rafael or Doug fischer wrote that type of *+$+%%++, i'd be appalled. But these dudes are on or tryin to be on Pac's payroll, I wouldn't takethem seriously. Them dudes ain't got no credibility.

Hell, I couldn't even read past the first sentence of the ones that Dako posted
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