Originally Posted by
KingJames23
Originally Posted by
TheProfessorOfPugilism
KingJames23 wrote:
TheProfessorOfPugilism wrote:
KingJames23 wrote:
TheProfessorOfPugilism wrote:
manny is scared to fight cotto at full strength, so he wants cotto to weaken himself before they get in the ring.
So Cotto weighs in at 146 for Clottey but he's going to be a dead man at 145. Is that right?
I was explaining for MaxElite why Pacquiao wouldn't fight Cotto at 147, that is the explanation, period.
My statement has hyperoble, yes.
Your explanation of him fighting at 145 vs 147 was pretty much a flame saying "he's scared of Cotto at full strength'. If this fight was 143
I'd find that a more reasonable statement But I really don't think 145 is going to make that much of a difference. That's not going to be the
reason Manny wins this fight (should he win). 145 is more than fair.
I can't wait for this fight and could go either way. Either side should get full credit should they win.
Let me just say Manny isn't the GOAT, God, the messiah, or anything of the sort.
I disagree. The weight class is 147 lbs. The title that Cotto holds and they will be fighting for is at 147 lbs. Why does Cotto have to go down
in weight to make it "fair"? If the weight isn't a big issue, why were they so hell bent on making this fight below 147? If they WERENT scared
of fighting Cotto at 147, then why not just let Cotto weigh what he wants and Manny can come in under weight? If the weight is not a big deal and they're
not scared of Cotto at 147, then why did Roach say he will not let Manny fight ANYBODY other than Oscar at 147? The fact is they absolutely did not want to
fight Cotto at 147 and tried to make him fight at an absurd 143. Cotto's camp wouldn't bite so Manny's camp backed off a little but still forced
Cotto to come down in weight. Manny's people are scared to fight at 147, PERIOD. No flame, it it what it is.
The weight class is 140+-147. It's one pound, that isn't going to cripple Cotto and make this a cake walk while Manny has to continuously step out and fighting Cotto well above where he should be fighting. Roach doesn't want Manny at 147 unless it's the perfect match-up just because of how much weight Manny would have to carry and he'd be facing naturally much larger fighters that could wear Manny down. DLH was a dead man at 147 which is why that fight happened. It really doesn't matter to me if the belt is on the line make it a 147 title fight or 145 non-title fight just to make people happy, it's whatever.
Manny is a natural lightweight and I guess I just have a problem saying that he's scared to fight at that when he has come from 105 now to 145. Manny is stepping out to face very good fighters. He is screwed because a lot of the best fighters he hasn't faced yet are welterweights. You don't see Cotto, PBF going to 154 to fight elite fighters like Paul Williams . Manny has done nothing but step out and win but people still give him +!%%.
What a shock Manny's camp wanted to make the fight favor Manny? Obviously they would try to gain any advantage they could but that doesn't matter since they agreed to 145. Manny is moving much more out of his "comfort zone" than Cotto is so I guess I really don't see the huge issue everyone has.
MAC = Champion.
how is person A going to be the champion but has to settle for persons b rules?