09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime

[scott frost]

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Zab disgusts me

Preach Matt. Preach.

What time is weight in today? They broadcasting live?

 

[yungmatt]

I think its live at 6:15

 

[mextra45]

Every time yall start talking bout boxing yall got to pull Zab judah out yall *!! lol . He is done .

I like Manny in this one the speed will be the difference , I know your gonna say "well he fought zab " but after the 3-4rd Zab was throwing 1 punchat a time . Manny bouncing in and out will Cotto trouble.
Cotto can win if he keeps his jab hard and doubles up to throw off Mannys rhythm , and he has to move his head , Often and early body work will be key for him.
Cotto didnt look great against Clottey and he has a new trainer so we will see how this works out on sat .

 

[proshares]

I seen Matt's avy, had Bad Boyz on repeat for about 20 minutes now

 

[gunna get it]

IMO Pacman's speed is not overwhelming speed. JMM aint no faster than Cotto and he handled it and found his target pretty easily.

and yea Zab may not have put his punches together but Zabs overall speed is greater than Pacman. Its visible in the Clottey Fight. Zab made CLottey miss alot.Pac dont move like that. His speed is offensive. Ive never seen him bob/duck/shoulder roll effectively

Pacmans best defense is his offense, but theres no question at some point in this fight with Cotto he gonna have to defend himself and make Cotto Miss. I dontthink he can do it. Cottos jab gonna be snappin his head back all nite. I seriously dont think this is a hard fight for Cotto. If Im wrong I'l l have noproblem honing up to it.

Manny was a GREAT 126-130 lb fighter and without a doubt he is the best 135 lb fighter, but he's up at welter and he bout to get in therewith the top 2 or 3 welters walkin the earth. I dont like his odds

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

he is the best 135 lb fighter

I 100% disagree with that.

 

[gunna get it]

whos better? until JMM beats him, I dont wanna hear it

 

[mfr3shm]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Pac dont move like that. His speed is offensive. Ive never seen him bob/duck/shoulder roll effectively

Pacquiao has no defense at all he takes a punch, and then raises his hands in the air. (i find that annoying)

He won't be doing that when he takes a clean punch from Cotto.

 

[proshares]

Nah, I'm not gonna use the "JMM won both fights!" defense as yet

Resumes alone at 135 I can't put him ahead of JMM there until they fight at that weight. JMM KOed Casamayor and Juan Diaz, Pac KOed David Diaz then ran upto 140

I'm not going to put him ahead of JMM at lightweight until they fight there.

BTW, no avy for the fight?

 

[scott frost]

Cotto was on that scale for about 2 seconds, they werent playing around. Freddie Roach looked pissed and was getting into it with Cotto's trainer.

 

[gunna get it]

Cotto trainer looked like he was gonna put hands on Roach

and Yea MAC is crazy focused. got on, got the weight, bounce.

I really dont see him losin this fight, Im to the point right now where I would be shocked if he lost

 

[edword]

call me crazy but werent we calling cotto "shot" 6 months back? questioning if he can mentally get back to the top

 

[gunna get it]

Do Not include me in that "we"

I been rockin wit Cotto since he had a full head of Curly hair

 

[sir rob a lot]

Originally Posted by EdWord

call me crazy but werent we calling cotto "shot" 6 months back? questioning if he can mentally get back to the top

Not me.

I been rockin wit Cotto since he had a full head of Curly hair
Same.

 

[jagshemash]

Weigh-in.� Do yourself and favor any skip forward anytime Piven opens his mouth

 

[dako akong otin]

I've been rocking Manny since he was that skinny crack fiend looking dude with his hair looking sun burnt from the General Santos sun and when he was justas popular as Gerry Penalosa ... but the bandwagon got too big and all those politicians and obese looking filipino-americans who don't know crap aboutboxing pushed me off the wagon

Lets say when the bell rings, my filipino blood will most likely take over and i'll end up cheering for Manny, but if he loses.... i won't mind

Back to boxing. Manny needs to keep the fight at the center of the ring and Cotto needs to pin him on the ropes. Manny needs 3-4-5 punch combinations to hurtCotto. But Cotto just needs 1 flush shot to hurt Manny. Manny's chin was above average at 126-130 lbs. While he was able to carry his power and speed to140-147, I don't think he was able to carry his chin. Oscar and Diaz was too slow to land anything clean, and Hatton was just shook... 130 lb JMM hurtManny in the body with the left hook.... Imagine a fully hydrated 160 lb Cotto will do.


Cotto by KO via liver shot in the 6th

 

[erascism]

Vamo Puerto Rico

 

[jordanjunky22]

I Think the pac -man is going to win unanimous decision, i just think that he is going to be toooo fast for cotto, but if cotto wins this is going to be theone of his greatest victories so far.

 

[chitownrivera07]

Originally Posted by ERASCISM


Vamo Puerto Rico

Cotto Looks Crazy Focused.....Im Too Hyped Up For Tomorrow

 

[jagshemash]

Originally Posted by dako akong otin

I've been rocking Manny since he was that skinny crack fiend looking dude with his hair looking sun burnt from the General Santos sun and when he was just as popular as Gerry Penalosa ... but the bandwagon got too big and all those politicians and obese looking filipino-americans who don't know crap about boxing pushed me off the wagon

Lets say when the bell rings, my filipino blood will most likely take over and i'll end up cheering for Manny, but if he loses.... i won't mind

Back to boxing. Manny needs to keep the fight at the center of the ring and Cotto needs to pin him on the ropes. Manny needs 3-4-5 punch combinations to hurt Cotto. But Cotto just needs 1 flush shot to hurt Manny. Manny's chin was above average at 126-130 lbs. While he was able to carry his power and speed to 140-147, I don't think he was able to carry his chin. Oscar and Diaz was too slow to land anything clean, and Hatton was just shook... 130 lb JMM hurt Manny in the body with the left hook.... Imagine a fully hydrated 160 lb Cotto will do.


Cotto by KO via liver shot in the 6th

Any word if Pacquiao had trouble with his sparring partners, particularly Shawn Porter? I know they kind of made it appear that way on 24/7 but Idon't know if they were just trying to do it as a way to create drama.

 

[dako akong otin]

There was a rumor that Porter actually knocked Manny out. There's an interview on Shawn Porter after arriving from Manila and he was telling theinterviewer his record "I'm 10-0 with 8 KO's.. make that 9 KO's"

 

[jagshemash]

I see...

I'm sure Pacquiao will be landing on Cotto but I don't think he's going down easy and he'll be landing his own in return since Pacquiao'sdefense is nothing special either and Cotto is is good as finding and creating openings...maybe not quite as well as JMM, but still good nonetheless. I'mjust not sure if he's going to be able to handle the return fire of Cotto even if Pacquiao is landing more. It's an interesting fight but I'mpicking Cotto for the upset.

 

[dako akong otin]

Yeah, Gunna's on point saying Pac's best defense is his offense. His chin and defense haven't been tested at this weight division yet. Pac has abad habit of keeping that right hand low after throwing a punch. Perfect for Cotto to counter with his own left hook

GORRES WINS BY UD BUT COLLAPSED AFTER THE FIGHT

By Dong Secuya
PhilBoxing.com
Sat, 14 Nov 2009

Reports coming from the arena of the House of Blues at Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, NV indicate that Z 'The Dream' Gorres of the Philippines won his fight against Luis Melendez of Columbia by unanimous decision moments ago in their 10-round bantanweight contest.
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Dr Ed de la Vega, who was at ringside, reported by phone that Gorres knocked down his opponent in the 3rd round. With 20 seconds remaining in the 10th and last round, Melendez knocked down Gorres but Gorres held on to survived and earn the decision.

Gorres has now upped his record to 31-2-2 with 17KOs while Melendez dropped to 26-4-1 21KOs.

After the verdict was announcement and when photographers were about to finish taking pictures, Gorres was seen unsteady walking back to his corner and then collapsed. Gorres was carried by a stretcher out of the venue and immediately brought to a hospital by an ambulance.

Stay tuned for further reports...

Pull through little bro

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By David A. Avila

LAS VEGAS-Filipino contender Z. Gorres slumped to the floor after out-pointing Luis Melendez and was taken on a stretcher to a nearby hospital on Friday. Gorres was knocked down 30 seconds before the final round ended, beat the count and was given the decision by the judges. He then was celebrating around the ring when suddenly his knees buckled and the fighter was immediately put on a stretcher. The popular Filipino fighter was taken to the University Medical Center in Las Vegas where he was placed in critical condition. No word on the outcome or whether he will undergo an operation. The Top Rank fight card took place at the House of Blues in Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

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[kicks4days]

http://www.vocero.com/noticia-34550-...sta_cotto.html

http://www.vocero.com/noticia-34550-...sta_cotto.html



Las vegas, Nevada - Mexico's Antonio Margarito, who last night made his arrival at the mgm grand hotel, hopes to resume his career in the welterweight division in early 2010 when his one-year suspension is up indicating Sergio Diaz, one of his handlers, who are considering Felix Trinidad Evangelista Cotto Garcia and a group of potential candidates to become Margarito's new trainer following the departure of Javier Capetillo.

"Tijuana is in training and hoping for something after his suspension expires. We fought hard with Top Rank about that but we'll have to wait time our time is met. And we're already talking to a new coach so when he gets back his license. We do not rule out Evangelista ,Trinidad and also Freddie Roach. But we would explore the possibility that it is a Puerto Rican, "he said.

Margarito was suspended following a finding of an alteration in his bandages for his fight with Shane Mosley he lost by technical knockout subsequently being suspended both"The Tijuana Tornado 'as also Capetillo.

"And we listened to Bob Arum of a fight with Cotto in June at Yankee Stadium. If that is accepted by Cotto it is a very big fight. Everything depends on the company but i would give them a fight before that. These are the plans and would be in the same welterweight division, ".

 

[jaysbboy]

word is pacquiao floored shawn porter twice and porter has not been able to knock manny out but has been able to give manny a challenge.