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Originally Posted by swizzc
I'll take this guy over Jacquizz
dude may not even stick with football
'09 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON THREAD-recruiting/Coaching Changes/Transfers
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dude may not even stick with football
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Our secondary has more holes than your avy.
I don't feel good about the defense... at all.
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SC will have a "down" year by their standards but the only real contender I see to take the Pac-10 crown is Oregon... their D is suspectas hell tho. Obviously in crown I mean 2nd place, as Stanford will be winning the conference this year....Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy
Our secondary has more holes than your avy.
I don't feel good about the defense... at all.
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I honestly do not understand CP's severe dislike of anything related to the state of Oregon...
I can understand not being fan of the teams of someplace but to hate on anything (and seemingly everything)...
(i.e. I'm not particularly a fan of any of the Washington or California teams [pro/college], but I don't hate the state as a whole)
CP, why?
I can understand not being fan of the teams of someplace but to hate on anything (and seemingly everything)...
(i.e. I'm not particularly a fan of any of the Washington or California teams [pro/college], but I don't hate the state as a whole)
CP, why?
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Do you live here in the state?
I could type for half and hour and not even come close to repeating the garbage I've seen/read/watched/witnessed over the years.
I listen to the radio, I watch tv, I listen to people at work..........I never get quite from them.
People around here legit think they are right there wtih Boston and the Lakers in the NBA.
Same people legit think that Oregon is right there with Florida, USC, Texas, etc etc.
Oregon St folk know better, but they aren't far off. Witness any bowl win they get against a crappy Notre Dame team, they toe the line of thinking theybeat ND of old and have replaced the Golden Domers as college football's finest.
It drives me insane. So Chester has a good time and twists the damn knife in me any chance he finds just to piss me off.
Do you live here in the state?
I could type for half and hour and not even come close to repeating the garbage I've seen/read/watched/witnessed over the years.
I listen to the radio, I watch tv, I listen to people at work..........I never get quite from them.
People around here legit think they are right there wtih Boston and the Lakers in the NBA.
Same people legit think that Oregon is right there with Florida, USC, Texas, etc etc.
Oregon St folk know better, but they aren't far off. Witness any bowl win they get against a crappy Notre Dame team, they toe the line of thinking theybeat ND of old and have replaced the Golden Domers as college football's finest.
It drives me insane. So Chester has a good time and twists the damn knife in me any chance he finds just to piss me off.
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RB - Cal's Jahvid Best was No. 1, with OSU's Jacquizz Rodgers No. 4, UO's Blount Force Trauma No. 5, Stanford's Toby 'Wait until I get ahold of that OSU defense again' Gerhart was No. 10, and Arizona's Nic Grigsby No. 21. Comment - holy cow, is the Pac-10 loaded with good runners, or what.
Defensive coach - Washington's Nick Holt was No. 9, and OSU's Mark Banker was No. 16. Comment - Holt was great in his introductory news conference (Comcast, baby!) but anybody with an I.Q. in double figures knows that the Dawgs don't have a defense. ... a nice shout-out to Banker, because he lost 8 starters on D
Best is overrated. #1 RB in nation? Pleease. Jacquizz> Best. We'll see how JB does this year with the new O-Line coach.
Nick Holt @ #9. I guess people assume Holt went from being USC DC toU-Dub DC for fun? Pete ran that defense.
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This guy . . he's been openly talking about transferring for the last 3-4 months now because the girls in Eugene aren't hot enough andthere's nothing to do around town(guess he's not a weed guy). That's fine, if you're homesick then do your thing, but we already hadanother WR transfer because after spring ball Kelly told him that Harper would be starting over him. Very frustrating.Oh well, who ever lands him you're in luck. You're getting a 6'3" 230 kid with legit 4.45 speed and quicks to boot.
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Oh, and if you didn't already know, barring injury Blount's taking home the conference rushing crown without much trouble, I'm talking 1500+ easy.That's just what Kelly's offense does . .
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This guy . . he's been openly talking about transferring for the last 3-4 months now because the girls in Eugene aren't hot enough and there's nothing to do around town(guess he's not a weed guy). That's fine, if you're homesick then do your thing, but we already had another WR transfer because after spring ball Kelly told him that Harper would be starting over him. Very frustrating. Oh well, who ever lands him you're in luck. You're getting a 6'3" 230 kid with legit 4.45 speed and quicks to boot.Originally Posted by 541 Exile 562
wow
thats pretty crazy
I seriously thought he was gonna be a star
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If he isn't stubborn about playing QB(another reason why he left) he could be a star in a lot of places. RB, WR, even OLB if he had the right mentality.He's got a strong arm but he must really have some serious mechanics and accuracy issues because they kept him as an RB/WR hybrid for spring even though itwas apparent after signing day that there would be depth concerns at QB.
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Best is overrated. #1 RB in nation? Pleease
Nick Holt @ #9
best is over rated huh??
Which returning RB's have more yds than Best????
Best> Rogers.
Rogers averaged 4.8 ypc, while Best averaged 8.1
and look at Best's production vs. the worst team in the pac 10, he had 300 yds rushing vs. Udub, while Rogers had only 94. that should say something abouthis ability vs. Roger's
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/statistics
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DESTIN, Fla. (AP)-Lane Kiffin didn't back down or hand out apologies Tuesday before he met his fellow Southeastern Conference football coaches-many ofwhom he has called out and insulted.
The new Tennessee coach and his SEC colleagues gathered in Destin for face-to-face meetings at the annual spring conference. All the coaches individuallyaddressed the media before the sessions began.
In his first few months on the job, Kiffin has taken verbal jabs at several of the SEC heavyweights, including Florida's Urban Meyer, Alabama's NickSaban and South Carolina's Steve Spurrier.
Kiffin called Meyer a "cheater" on signing day in February.
Meyer said before meeting Kiffin on Tuesday that he expected their first contact to be "professional."
"That's the way we're supposed to act in this league," Meyer added.
If Meyer was looking for an apology from Kiffin on Tuesday, there was none forthcoming. Kiffin, who issued a public apology to Meyer and the SEC almostimmediately on signing day, said Tuesday that was it.
"I don't have a relationship with coach Meyer, but I did ask for adjoining (hotel) rooms," Kiffin said with a laugh.
Kiffin's one-liners didn't stop there Tuesday.
He had told Alshon Jeffery, before the recruit committed to Spurrier and the Gamecocks, that he "would be pumping gas for a living" if he signedwith South Carolina.
"I have no problem with coach Spurrier," Kiffin said Tuesday. "I just saw him in the elevator. He never apologized to me for saying I startedrecruiting without passing the NCAA recruiting test."
Saban, who on signing day read Kiffin's public comments that said, "Nick Saban should have started his press conference by saying, 'Our greatclass that we signed … I'd really like to thank Lance (Thompson) because Lance signed eight of those guys."
Thompson left the Alabama staff to work for Kiffin.
"Everybody has to have their own way of handling things and heavens knows I've made my share of mistakes with the media," Saban said."But we try to represent our organization in a first-class way and do it with loyalty and integrity."
Kiffin's story, and he's sticking to it, is that his actions was to create national attention for a struggling program. The result for a schoolcoming off a 5-7 season is a top 10 recruiting class.
"Do I love everything I had to do to get us to this point?" Kiffin said Tuesday. "No, I don't. But we had to make an immediate impact. Wecouldn't have sat back in the weeds and hoped we signed a top 10 class in a couple of years.
"I don't think if we took a conservative approach there's no way we would have signed that class and the No. 1 player (running back BryceBrown) in the country. Kids we're recruiting have responded to the confidence our staff has shown."
Bobby Petrino of Arkansas and Houston Nutt of Ole Miss, a couple of the coaches that Kiffin hadn't insulted yet, are amused by the situation.
"I've laughed about it, it has put a smile on my face," said Petrino, who was on the staff with Kiffin with the Jacksonville Jaguars in the NFL. "Maybe if we want to quit talking aboutit, those guys (Meyer and Kiffin) can go jump in that Ultimate Fighting ring. That would sell some tickets."
Nutt said that even though Kiffin was trying to fire up the Tennessee fans, the coaches Kiffin called out have long memories.
"Coaches may not said it affects them, but it is put in the back of their minds," Nutt said. "And your players know more word-for-word ofwhat was said."
The one person who hasn't been amused by the public give-and-take between coaches is SEC commissioner Mike Slive. He said his message to Kiffin and therest of the coaches at this meeting is clear.
"In 2004, all of our football and basketball coaches passed a set of principles that are still in effect, a prescription our league has for dealingwith these matters," Slive said. "We expect everybody to follow our rules. The best interest of this league is to focus on our student-athletes.
"What's good for one institution in this league is good for all institutions in this league. We're all in this together."
Also at these meetings, Slive is telling SEC basketball coaches to upgrade their non-conference schedules. The SEC got just three teams in this pastseason's NCAA tournament and all three were eliminated by the second round.
Slive, who just finished his term as chairman of the NCAA tourney selection committee, said it was clear the conference's weak non-conference scheduleled to the low RPI that kept bubble teams out.
"Playing a strong non-conference schedule gives the selection committee a chance to see how teams would compete against teams in the NCAA field,because many of those teams usually are in the field," Slive said. "There's a perception of who you play, how you play and where youplay."
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This guy . . he's been openly talking about transferring for the last 3-4 months now because the girls in Eugene aren't hot enough and there's nothing to do around town(guess he's not a weed guy). That's fine, if you're homesick then do your thing, but we already had another WR transfer because after spring ball Kelly told him that Harper would be starting over him. Very frustrating. Oh well, who ever lands him you're in luck. You're getting a 6'3" 230 kid with legit 4.45 speed and quicks to boot.Originally Posted by 541 Exile 562
and Harper get's a big
Dude could never put it together on the field. Honestly, if Bellotti and Kelly didn't see him fit to play QB then clearly he wasn't.
While Oregon's quarterbacks may not always transfer success to the NFL, they're usually pretty well rounded in their college game and have successfulcollege careers with good numbers.
I wish him the best, but I really think he should have stuck around and continue to develop his all around game...
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Originally Posted by 80JerryRice80
Best is overrated. #1 RB in nation? Pleease. Jacquizz > Best. We'll see how JB does this year with the new O-Line coach.
Nick Holt @ #9. I guess people assume Holt went from being USC DC to U-Dub DC for fun? Pete ran that defense.
best is over rated huh??
Which returning RB's have more yds than Best????
Best> Rogers.
Rogers averaged 4.8 ypc, while Best averaged 8.1
and look at Best's production vs. the worst team in the pac 10, he had 300 yds rushing vs. Udub, while Rogers had only 94. that should say something about his ability vs. Roger's
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Come on man, you really making the total yards argument?
Yeah and Rodgers tore USC a new one while Best got completely shut down. Your argument goes both ways.
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The hell do I care what they both did against crappy %%* Washington or Washington State?
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Rodgers also rushed for an impressive 54 yards against the stout Stanford defense.
Goes both ways.
Goes both ways.
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Obviously it's very hard to compare any two players, there's too many intangibles. BUT, stats don't lie. that being said, these are all conclusionsim drawing from last year alone. by the end of next year things could be completely different. I think that there's no question that on day 1 of the 09season, Jahvid Best is gonna step on the field as the best running back in the nation.
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Seriously . . Best ran for 500 of his total yards last year against the 2 legitimately worst teams the Pac-10's had in the last 20 years, and I'm noteven slightly exaggerating when I say that.
edit * Obviously I'm bored and sick of baseball, so here's something semi-interesting to chew on. This isn't meant to draw any sort of seriousconclusions or anything and certainly doesn't prove that any one back is better than the other because every situation is unique :
If you disregard the UW and WSU games for each player the stats come out like this :
Best : 1069 YDS 6.6 YPC 8 TDS
Rodgers : 991 YDS 4.5 YPC 9 TDS
Blount : 883 YDS 7.4 YPC 14 TDS
So in conclusion . . . . . .
. . . ok not really . . but maybe.
edit * Obviously I'm bored and sick of baseball, so here's something semi-interesting to chew on. This isn't meant to draw any sort of seriousconclusions or anything and certainly doesn't prove that any one back is better than the other because every situation is unique :
If you disregard the UW and WSU games for each player the stats come out like this :
Best : 1069 YDS 6.6 YPC 8 TDS
Rodgers : 991 YDS 4.5 YPC 9 TDS
Blount : 883 YDS 7.4 YPC 14 TDS
So in conclusion . . . . . .
. . . ok not really . . but maybe.
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stats do Lie esp when taken out of context.
almost 900 yards coming against Wazzu, Washington and Stanford (3 of the worst rush defenses in the country )
vs Was Jahvid was still running 80 yarders when they were already up 5 Tubs...
vs Wazzu they were up 6 tubs when he was still in there rippin off 80 yard runs...
and Chester killin Quiz on his performance vs Stanford but that was Game 1, he didnt get the ball alot because as I remember they were down ALOT in the 3rdquarter
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that's a pretty cool picOriginally Posted by 541 Exile 562
Seriously . . Best ran for 500 of his total yards last year against the 2 legitimately worst teams the Pac-10's had in the last 20 years, and I'm not even slightly exaggerating when I say that.
edit * Obviously I'm bored and sick of baseball, so here's something semi-interesting to chew on. This isn't meant to draw any sort of serious conclusions or anything and certainly doesn't prove that any one back is better than the other because every situation is unique :
If you disregard the UW and WSU games for each player the stats come out like this :
Best : 1069 YDS 6.6 YPC 8 TDS
Rodgers : 991 YDS 4.5 YPC 9 TDS
Blount : 883 YDS 7.4 YPC 14 TDS
So in conclusion . . . . . .
. . . ok not really . . but maybe.
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Shut up.
Dwyer is 2 times the RB Jahvid Best is.
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Just wait for next year when jahvid tears %%*$ up once again.
