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If Kiff doesn't get Scroggins then will Newton be frontrunner for 2010 job?
Didn't know you guys had a connection with Riggs. Hopefully you guys treated him like you did Leak's brother lol.
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If Kiff doesn't get Scroggins then will Newton be frontrunner for 2010 job?
Didn't know you guys had a connection with Riggs. Hopefully you guys treated him like you did Leak's brother lol.
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U dont remember Riggs at UT?
he played RB the yr UT played Auburn in the SEC Title game with Cadillac and Ronnie Brown.
Riggs left in great standing,
He ran for 1100 his Jr yr but got hurt his SR year alot when UT struggled
he played RB the yr UT played Auburn in the SEC Title game with Cadillac and Ronnie Brown.
Riggs left in great standing,
He ran for 1100 his Jr yr but got hurt his SR year alot when UT struggled
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reading today, Riggs is holding off on a decision and still will take an official to ND during the season.
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CJ Leak.
Man, man, man.
Biggest name since Steve Shipp, DeAngelo Lloyd and Keith Matkins. That era of players in the city.
Maybe he shoulda just stayed at Wake.
Man, man, man.
Biggest name since Steve Shipp, DeAngelo Lloyd and Keith Matkins. That era of players in the city.
Maybe he shoulda just stayed at Wake.
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CJ Leak was GARBAGE. no matter where he woulda went
HS Hype
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Bunch of garbage QBs out of that HS...
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1. That's not saying much.Originally Posted by lowslows
Tyrod the best player on the field
This aint your 05-07canes...we acually have threats on offense now.
We have one of the if not the best WR corps in the ACC and a good trio of Running backs
You point out growth and potential...dont yout think all our freshman will be a tad bit better this season?
Dont you think Jacory might have grown as a player in the off season?
aint no arguing the coaching...Beamer is better period
But havin Jacory, Aldarious, Spence, Mrob, Benjamin, and Bryd a year older is SCARY
And i aint even mention Forston, Streeter, VT....
VT could easily pull out the W but its not the lock you guys claim...
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2. That's way wrong
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Good thing y'all got the crown jewel
And y'all had 'Rio to boot
You should THANK the I for that.
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'Rio = Mario Raley?
Garbage.
Massaquoi was
, tho...
Garbage.
Massaquoi was
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The one and only
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Originally Posted by lowslows
KingJames23 wrote:
I said best offensive player, there is a difference.Originally Posted by lowslows
Tyrod the best player on the field
This aint your 05-07canes...we acually have threats on offense now.
We have one of the if not the best WR corps in the ACC and a good trio of Running backs
You point out growth and potential...dont yout think all our freshman will be a tad bit better this season?
Dont you think Jacory might have grown as a player in the off season?
aint no arguing the coaching...Beamer is better period
But havin Jacory, Aldarious, Spence, Mrob, Benjamin, and Bryd a year older is SCARY
And i aint even mention Forston, Streeter, VT....
VT could easily pull out the W but its not the lock you guys claim...
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I have never been a fan of Harris. He lived off the talent at MNW and was nothing but average last year. Maybe it's unfair but it's just my opinion. Your WR's won't matter if Harris can't get them the ball. Jacory is still a young QB who can be confused, Bud Foster is the best DC in CFB.
Yes Miami will have players improve and I love their young talent. But there is still a ton of youth on that team. Will their improvement be enough to match VT's overall team, I don't think so. And will those improvements come at the key positions Miami needs?
And to the person saying there was a reason why Tyrod was going to be redshirted. Beamer tried to buy an extra year of Tyrod. RS him and get another year of him being the sole starter. Glennon couldn't do that so they needed his playmaking ability.
Did you watch VT at all last year?
To say Tyrod will be the best offenive player on the field next year is truly laughable..
He aint even betta than Darren Evans who BEASTED last year
and yea i guess a 170 pound true freshman who leads his teams to two comeback wins on the road is not impessive
mind you, this is all with him coming off the bench cold in the 2nd half
Tyrod had a 2-7 td to interception rate last year
Please tell me what he bring to the table to mention him as the best offensive player on the field
Yes I watched VT, I watched more CFB than any single person should.
I expect Tyrod to make huge strides he reworked this throwing motion this off-season to make him more consisitent. Save my quote about Tyrod if you want itmay blow up in my face but I believe it.
A comeback win vs Virginia doesn't impress me. And being down 3 at the half to Duke doesn't really qualify as a "comeback win".
Tyrod's running ability is what he brings to the table. VT won the ACC in a rebuilding year with what everyone is saying is a %$*+ QB. Nobody walks intoBlacksburg and dominates VT, they are a tremendous home team.
I'm done talking about VT/UM.
Got my season ticket confirmation. Seeing the defending champs for $70
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Richt just pulled Derek Owens out of DUUUUVAAAAL.
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they coming out with a hbcu video game in midjuly. should be interesting....
justwinbaby
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Apparently, FSU has gotten a commitment from Tavaris Barnes.
He tried to commit to UF a while ago and they didn't take it.
He is a take for us.
And also, word about Eduardo Clements is he is playing games (like a lot of So. Fla dudes do
) and may commit to FSU in July after the Bobby Bowden orSeminole Showcase camp.
We'll see.
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une 22, 2009 [h1]Monday with Mike: These guys must step up[/h1]
Mike Huguenin
Rivals.com College Football Editor
Here's a look at five players, listed alphabetically, who need to play better for their teams to reach theirpotential this season.
These aren't necessarily the best players on their teams, but they are guys who need to show more than they did last season.
Georgia DE RoderickBattle: Battle was a big-time star in high school in Atlanta, but he has just been "a guy" - and a disappointment - with the Bulldogs.He has three sacks in the past two seasons combined. Part of the reason was that he was banged up last season, and part is that he never really has developedany "go-to" pass-rushing move (he had just 2.5 sacks as a full-time starter in 2007). Georgia had only 24 sacks last season, with six of those comingin the Capital One Bowl victory over Michigan State. Battle missed the spring while recovering from shouldersurgery. He and the rest of Georgia's ends need to get on the stick this season and get the sack total into the 30s. If the Bulldogs have to resort to theblitz to get consistent pressure on opposing quarterbacks, that bodes ill for a retooled secondary.
Illinois WR ArreliousBenn: Benn is a supremely talented player and is one of the best wide receivers in the nation. But last season, he - and the entire Illini offense- underachieved. Benn had 67 catches for 1,055 yards - a solid 15.7 yards-per-catch average. But he scored just three times, which should be embarrassing toBenn and the Illini's offensive coaches. Illinois is at its best offensively when it can control the ball on the ground, which lessens the pressure on QBJuice Williams. The rushing attack sputtered at times last season and the passinggame couldn't take up the slack. Illinois has a new offensive coordinator, MikeSchultz, who came from TCU. He needs to make sure Benn gets 70-plus catches and also needs to make sure Benn is more ofa threat in the red zone. If Benn again has just three TD catches, Illinois again will be home for the holidays.
California QB Kevin Riley:With USC replacing eight starters on defense, breaking in a new quarterback and playing a tough schedule, the Pac-10 racelooks more open than it has been in a while. If Riley plays well, Cal could be the team that walks away with the crown. Coach Jeff Tedford thinks highly of Riley's skill set, but Riley struggled mightily last season,throwing for 1,360 yards and completing just 50.7 percent of his passes. True, Cal isn't exactly loaded at wide receiver, but that completion percentage ispitiful for a player of Riley's talents, and he lost his starting job. Nate Longshore, the guy who replaced Riley in the starting lineup, is gone now, soperhaps Riley plays on a more even keel without the threat of someone taking his job. Regardless, he needs to throw for 2,000 or so yards and increase hiscompletion percentage by eight to 10 points if Cal is to be a legit contender in the Pac-10 race. RB Jahvid Best will be the focal point of most opposing defenses, so all Riley has to do isbe a complementary performer. Can he handle it?
USF DE George Selvie:Selvie had a breakout season as a sophomore in 2007, racking up 14.5 sacks and 31.5 tackles for loss while generally wreaking havoc against any offensivelineman he went up against. He was a first-team All-American on numerous lists and went into last season as a preseason first-teamer on most lists. But heslumped, finishing with 5.5 sacks and 8.0 tackles for loss. He saw a lot more double-teams last season, for sure, but big-time ends find a way to still makebig plays. Last season, senior Jarrett Buie was the other end; this season, the opposite end won't be decided until fall camp. It's extremely unlikelythe other end will require double-teams, so that means Selvie better get used to being banged around again. Still, he has too much speed and skill to bebottled up as he was last season. Expect a double-digit sack total.
Clemson RB C.J.Spiller: Spiller has had a solid career, but he certainly hasn't been the marquee player most thought he would be out of high school. He hasbig-time speed, good hands and return ability. So why hasn't he truly broken out? First, he has had to share time with James Davis, who's now in theNFL. Second, it doesn't appear the old Clemson coaching staff truly knew how to use Spiller. Then again, maybe Spiller is one of those guys who foreverwill tease you with his potential but never produce to that level. New coach DaboSwinney talked Spiller into returning for his senior season - he would've been a first-day pick in the NFL draft - and perhaps now Spiller will shine.Spiller has the talent to be a 1,200-yard rusher and a 35-catch receiver; it's up to the new staff to get the ball into his hands often. If Spillerdoesn't reach those numbers this season, you wonder how effective Clemson's offense will be.
TV talk
Once again, the ACC, Big 12 and SEC championship games will be played on the same day (Dec. 5 this season).
What's interesting is that the ACC and Big 12 games will be played at the same time, at 8 p.m., with the Big 12 game televised by ABC and the ACC gametelevised by ESPN. (Yes, ABC and ESPN are owned by the same parent company, and they obviously believe the Big 12 trumps the ACC.)
The SEC title game will be televised by CBS at 4 p.m.
Money changes everything
Big news Wednesday for Georgia in that the school announced it had signed an eight-year, $92.8 million media-rights deal with ISP. That means ISP now overseesGeorgia's radio network, the coaches' shows and the like.
What it also means is that Georgia - like Ohio State (which recently signed a $110 million media-rights deal) andFlorida ($100 million) - is going to be swimming in even more money. The rich get richer, as it were.
When I read about Georgia's contract, I couldn't help but think back to the BCS hearings called in early May, the one where Texas Rep. Joe Bartonlikened the BCS system to communism. I also thought of Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson, who at that same hearing said "the currentBCS system ensures a permanent underclass."
Actually, despite what Barton, Thompson and others would have you believe, the lack of a playoff doesn't ensure a permanent underclass. As Georgia'sdeal shows once again, college football is all about free-market capitalism.
Grid bits
I can't vouch for the math, but there's a cool statistic fromthenationalchampionshipissue.blogspot.com. The folks at the site looked at all the first-place votes cast in The Associated Press and coaches' polls sincethe dawn of the BCS era in 1998, and they found that USC has had the most No. 1 votes in that span (19 percent), followed by Ohio State (16 percent), Oklahoma (15 percent), Miami (15 percent) and Florida State (9 percent). Twenty-eight other schools have combined for the remaining 26 percent.
Former Michigan State coach George Perles, 74, is running for governor ofMichigan. Perles is a member of the Michigan State Board of Trustees and CEO of the Motor City Bowl. While Perles' teams were built old-school style -strong rushing attacks and stout defenses - he is running as a Democrat. Meanwhile, former Michigan and Buffalo Bills tight end Jay Riemersma is running for aU.S. House seat in Michigan; he is running as a Republican.
UCLA lost a projected starting widereceiver last week when junior Dominique Johnson left for Cal Poly, where he will be eligible immediately. Johnson (6-3/216) is big and fast, but hisproduction never has matched his potential. Meanwhile, running back Raymond Carter - who announced he was leaving after spring practice - will transfer toColorado State and sit out this season; he would've been in the tailback mix for the Bruins.
Kentucky has lost projectedstarting wide receiver E.J. Adams, who has left school and plans to enter July's NFL supplemental draft. Adams started nine games and had 14 catches lastseason.
He tried to commit to UF a while ago and they didn't take it.
He is a take for us.
And also, word about Eduardo Clements is he is playing games (like a lot of So. Fla dudes do
We'll see.
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une 22, 2009 [h1]Monday with Mike: These guys must step up[/h1]
Mike Huguenin
Rivals.com College Football Editor
Here's a look at five players, listed alphabetically, who need to play better for their teams to reach theirpotential this season.
These aren't necessarily the best players on their teams, but they are guys who need to show more than they did last season.
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Illinois WR ArreliousBenn: Benn is a supremely talented player and is one of the best wide receivers in the nation. But last season, he - and the entire Illini offense- underachieved. Benn had 67 catches for 1,055 yards - a solid 15.7 yards-per-catch average. But he scored just three times, which should be embarrassing toBenn and the Illini's offensive coaches. Illinois is at its best offensively when it can control the ball on the ground, which lessens the pressure on QBJuice Williams. The rushing attack sputtered at times last season and the passinggame couldn't take up the slack. Illinois has a new offensive coordinator, MikeSchultz, who came from TCU. He needs to make sure Benn gets 70-plus catches and also needs to make sure Benn is more ofa threat in the red zone. If Benn again has just three TD catches, Illinois again will be home for the holidays.
California QB Kevin Riley:With USC replacing eight starters on defense, breaking in a new quarterback and playing a tough schedule, the Pac-10 racelooks more open than it has been in a while. If Riley plays well, Cal could be the team that walks away with the crown. Coach Jeff Tedford thinks highly of Riley's skill set, but Riley struggled mightily last season,throwing for 1,360 yards and completing just 50.7 percent of his passes. True, Cal isn't exactly loaded at wide receiver, but that completion percentage ispitiful for a player of Riley's talents, and he lost his starting job. Nate Longshore, the guy who replaced Riley in the starting lineup, is gone now, soperhaps Riley plays on a more even keel without the threat of someone taking his job. Regardless, he needs to throw for 2,000 or so yards and increase hiscompletion percentage by eight to 10 points if Cal is to be a legit contender in the Pac-10 race. RB Jahvid Best will be the focal point of most opposing defenses, so all Riley has to do isbe a complementary performer. Can he handle it?
USF DE George Selvie:Selvie had a breakout season as a sophomore in 2007, racking up 14.5 sacks and 31.5 tackles for loss while generally wreaking havoc against any offensivelineman he went up against. He was a first-team All-American on numerous lists and went into last season as a preseason first-teamer on most lists. But heslumped, finishing with 5.5 sacks and 8.0 tackles for loss. He saw a lot more double-teams last season, for sure, but big-time ends find a way to still makebig plays. Last season, senior Jarrett Buie was the other end; this season, the opposite end won't be decided until fall camp. It's extremely unlikelythe other end will require double-teams, so that means Selvie better get used to being banged around again. Still, he has too much speed and skill to bebottled up as he was last season. Expect a double-digit sack total.
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TV talk
Once again, the ACC, Big 12 and SEC championship games will be played on the same day (Dec. 5 this season).
What's interesting is that the ACC and Big 12 games will be played at the same time, at 8 p.m., with the Big 12 game televised by ABC and the ACC gametelevised by ESPN. (Yes, ABC and ESPN are owned by the same parent company, and they obviously believe the Big 12 trumps the ACC.)
The SEC title game will be televised by CBS at 4 p.m.
Money changes everything
Big news Wednesday for Georgia in that the school announced it had signed an eight-year, $92.8 million media-rights deal with ISP. That means ISP now overseesGeorgia's radio network, the coaches' shows and the like.
What it also means is that Georgia - like Ohio State (which recently signed a $110 million media-rights deal) andFlorida ($100 million) - is going to be swimming in even more money. The rich get richer, as it were.
When I read about Georgia's contract, I couldn't help but think back to the BCS hearings called in early May, the one where Texas Rep. Joe Bartonlikened the BCS system to communism. I also thought of Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson, who at that same hearing said "the currentBCS system ensures a permanent underclass."
Actually, despite what Barton, Thompson and others would have you believe, the lack of a playoff doesn't ensure a permanent underclass. As Georgia'sdeal shows once again, college football is all about free-market capitalism.
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Clemson RB C.J. Spiller: Spiller has had a solid career, but he certainly hasn't been the marquee player most thought he would be out of high school. He has big-time speed, good hands and return ability. So why hasn't he truly broken out? First, he has had to share time with James Davis, who's now in the NFL. Second, it doesn't appear the old Clemson coaching staff truly knew how to use Spiller. Then again, maybe Spiller is one of those guys who forever will tease you with his potential but never produce to that level. New coach Dabo Swinney talked Spiller into returning for his senior season - he would've been a first-day pick in the NFL draft - and perhaps now Spiller will shine. Spiller has the talent to be a 1,200-yard rusher and a 35-catch receiver; it's up to the new staff to get the ball into his hands often. If Spiller doesn't reach those numbers this season, you wonder how effective Clemson's offense will be.
Associated Press C.J. Spiller will not have to share the Clemson backfield with James Davis anymore.
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CJ would be a nightmare for defenses if they could pass the ball. Don't think all the blame can be put on Davis for his numbers.
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Now we know how the most dominant team in the past 3 decades came to be what it is today. So sad. And sickening.
This @+%+ ruined my morning.
[h1]UM: Burned by Web hype, recruiters go with gut[/h1] By Shandel Richardson |South Florida Sun-Sentinel June 22, 2009
CORAL GABLES - Recruiting had become simple for the University of Miami football staff.
While counterparts were out scouring the country for the next All-American, the Hurricanes coaches were likely parked in front of a computer with a pad and pen. They surfed Internet recruiting sites in search of talent, almost forgetting their own evaluation in the process.
After following the advice of recruiting gurus helped lead to the program's recent decline, the Hurricanes have returned to trusting themselves when it comes to finding talent. Third-year coach Randy Shannon continues to emphasize the idea of recruiting based on staff judgment instead of a website's rankings.
"That's accurate," UM recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt said. "We spent way too much time recruiting off [Internet] lists and finding these top guys instead of truly evaluating. You can't just go off hearsay or just because Florida, Florida State or Alabama is recruiting him. That doesn't mean a thing."
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Hurtt, also the defensive line coach, said the staff realized it was being burned too frequently by recruiting busts. How else to explain a school once considered college football's top NFL factory having just one player - linebacker Spencer Adkins - taken in this year's draft? Although unfair to place all the blame on recruiting failures, it is widely considered the biggest factor in the decline.
"If you go back and you look at each class, I can go down the list and find some guys who were major recruits that never lived up to the billing," Hurtt said.
In the past six years, the Hurricanes signed top-20 players such as quarterback Kyle Wright, receiver Lance Leggett and tackle Reggie Youngblood. All had decent college careers, but never reached the expectations of their "can't-miss prospect" labels.
That's more than can be said about linebacker Willie Williams and running backs James Bryant and Charlie Jones, considered four-star or higher recruits. Williams was the nation's No. 6 recruit in 2004, according to Rivals.com. After unspectacular performances, all three transferred.
ESPN recruiting analyst Tom Luginbill said the Hurricanes were often caught up in the hype machine that occurs in the world of online recruiting. Many websites claim to rank the best players, but Luginbill said the moment coaches start paying attention to the "star system" is when "a program starts walking a cliff."
"In my opinion, you've got to stay true to your own evaluation, your own blueprint," Luginbill said. "Don't worry about what everybody else is saying, but that's a very difficult thing to do. ... What happens is there is so much information out there about guys. Most of it can be untrue. A lot of it is perpetuated by people who are claiming to be recruiting analysts, but don't know if a football is pumped or stuffed."
UM learned the hard way.
Recruiting misfires factored into the Hurricanes going from playing for consecutive national titles in 2002-03 to a 19-19 record the past three seasons. Much of it occurred under coach Larry Coker, who was fired after the 2006 season. The Hurricanes landed several highly rated recruiting classes during his tenure, but even outsiders noticed they were focusing solely on recruiting sites.
"I used to go in the coaches' offices and sometimes they would literally have Rivals.com up on their screen," said Matt Shodell, who covers UM and its recruiting for CaneSport.com. "I won't name the coaches, but they would be writing names down on pieces of paper. I don't know how much film they were looking at."
The Hurricanes have since turned to their eyes as the best evaluators of talent. Recruits now commonly say they have yet to receive a UM scholarship offer because coaches haven't seen film.
Hurtt said the staff also avoids highlight tapes that often appear on recruiting sites. Even those can provide false hope.
"The big difference is we're evaluating game film now," Hurtt said. "A lot of times it was highlight tapes, highlight tapes, highlight tapes. That could be just a big teaser for you. You watch it and all of a sudden people are geeked up. Then you find the actual game tape, and he doesn't know where he's going on the field and things like that. You find out things in the game film."
Shandel Richardson can be reached at [email protected]
[h5]Kyle Wright[/h5]QB 2003: Rated the No. 5 overall player by Rivals.com, but struggled with inconsistency throughout career
[h5]Lance Leggett[/h5]WR 2004: A top-20 recruit who never developed into the gamebreaker analysts projected
[h5]Willie Williams[/h5]LB 2004: The nation's top linebacker recruit couldn't make it through a season before transferring
[h5]Ryan Moore[/h5]WR 2002: Was considered a five-star recruit, but finished career with just 49 catches
[h5]James Bryant[/h5]FB 2004: A four-star recruit who could never find a position and was suspended three times before transferring
I still can't believe we were using Rivals to recruit. I'm going to snuff Coker if I ever see him in person.
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"I used to go in the coaches' offices and sometimes they would literally have Rivals.com up on their screen," said Matt Shodell, who covers UM and its recruiting for CaneSport.com. "I won't name the coaches, but they would be writing names down on pieces of paper. I don't know how much film they were looking at."
I still can't believe we were using Rivals to recruit. I'm going to snuff Coker if I ever see him in person.
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Most of the blame needs to go to the coaches. Poor coaching is why the players haven't developed
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Your reading comprehension FTL. Go read an SAT prep book or something.Originally Posted by gatorb807
at Miami.....trying to blame websites for the recent lack of success.
Most of the blame needs to go to the coaches. Poor coaching is why the players haven't developed
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Hats off to Eddie Gran for getting all the Florida talent not only interested in UT but getting a boatload of those kids on campus;
The Pahokee kids , it was obvious, were just in another league in terms of their athleticism compared to kids at camp... hands down; They must be unbelievable in their division in Florida. Incredible amount of talent on one high school team. And really well coached as to boot.
all the Pahokee kids especially the 3 that are seniors this year (DeJoshua Johnson (WR); Richard Ash (DL); and, Merrill Noel (DB) left no doubts about their athleticism and football skills.
Defensive back Nikell Robey from Frostproof, Fla was probably the most impressive non-lineman at camp. Excellent athlete, excellent cover skills... really caught the attention of our staff... Again, this kid is another that got to camp because of Eddie Gran. See a pattern here?
%@!%%@ painted the Rock for Scroggins visit to UT Camp
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Robey is good, he stays in the receiever's pocket all the time. Hips, Speed, Insticts, he's got it.
Only thing is, he's small as $$$*.
Smaller then Lamarcus, hell, smaller than Noel.
Dude is like 5'7. He's Tony Carter's size.
And yeah, I heard the Pahokee boys brought like 13 players. Did Dunkley not play?
Only thing is, he's small as $$$*.
Smaller then Lamarcus, hell, smaller than Noel.
Dude is like 5'7. He's Tony Carter's size.
And yeah, I heard the Pahokee boys brought like 13 players. Did Dunkley not play?
