The kid is a stud. Heard he just picked up a USC offer today. Petey needs to stay away.
Originally Posted by dreClark
Greyshirting is basically where a kid enrolls in January of the following year instead of enrolling in the fall/summer of the current year.
Say I commit to UM () in Feb, 09. I'll get greyshirted and enroll in January of 2010 instead of summer 09. And my scholarship will count towards the 2010 recruits, not the 2009 recruits.
And for that fall 09 I can only take a certain number of credit hours (if any) if I take over a certain amount my eligiblity clock will start.
Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by dreClark
Greyshirting is basically where a kid enrolls in January of the following year instead of enrolling in the fall/summer of the current year.
Say I commit to UM () in Feb, 09. I'll get greyshirted and enroll in January of 2010 instead of summer 09. And my scholarship will count towards the 2010 recruits, not the 2009 recruits.
And for that fall 09 I can only take a certain number of credit hours (if any) if I take over a certain amount my eligiblity clock will start.
So what is the benefit of this? Is it for the player, or the school? Is it merely to have a kid signed early for the 10 season and not have to worry about him?
Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by dreClark
Greyshirting is basically where a kid enrolls in January of the following year instead of enrolling in the fall/summer of the current year.
Say I commit to UM () in Feb, 09. I'll get greyshirted and enroll in January of 2010 instead of summer 09. And my scholarship will count towards the 2010 recruits, not the 2009 recruits.
And for that fall 09 I can only take a certain number of credit hours (if any) if I take over a certain amount my eligiblity clock will start.
So what is the benefit of this? Is it for the player, or the school? Is it merely to have a kid signed early for the 10 season and not have to worry about him?
Welcome to last year with that pic. And you should've seen the other stack he got.Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis
Recruits getting paid.
Yep.Originally Posted by DLo13
Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by dreClark
Greyshirting is basically where a kid enrolls in January of the following year instead of enrolling in the fall/summer of the current year.
Say I commit to UM () in Feb, 09. I'll get greyshirted and enroll in January of 2010 instead of summer 09. And my scholarship will count towards the 2010 recruits, not the 2009 recruits.
And for that fall 09 I can only take a certain number of credit hours (if any) if I take over a certain amount my eligiblity clock will start.
So what is the benefit of this? Is it for the player, or the school? Is it merely to have a kid signed early for the 10 season and not have to worry about him?
Usually it's done to get around the 25 scholarship limit. That's why schools like Alabama and Ole Miss can go out and sign 30 or so players. A few won't qualify and then they can throw the greyshirt on the others and push them into next year.
Kelly hoping to strike it rich with another switch
March 9, 2009 3:00 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Brian Bennett
As I reported earlier Monday for this site, Demetrius Jones is switching from quarterback to outside linebacker this spring at Cincinnati.
It's an interesting move for the former quarterback, who started Notre Dame's 2007 opener under center. He's a good athlete who played well on special teams last season, but Jones might not have a strong enough arm to run Cincinnati's offense effectively and Tony Pike is the clear starter.
AP Photo/Ed Reinke The Bearcats will use Demetrius Jones on defense since they already have an established starting quarterback.
The question now will be, can he hit and be effective in pass coverage? If nothing else, Kelly has a track record with these things, having moved Connor Barwin to defensive end last season after Barwin played three years at tight end. Barwin led the Big East in sacks and earned first-team all-league honors, as well as the attention of NFL scouts. I've seen some projections that even have Barwin going at the end of the first round.
"I don't know how many of those I'm going to get," Kelly said with a laugh when asked if Jones could duplicate Barwin's success.
I had a chance to sit down with Kelly Monday for our weekly Wednesday Q&A session, and it was a very interesting conversation as always with one of the Big East's most quotable figures. You can read the whole thing on Wednesday, but here are a couple of teasers:
• Kelly said he's very close to hiring a defensive line coach to replace Keith Gilmore, who left for Illinois in the offseason. The hire could come as soon as the next couple of days. He said it's been a challenge finding someone who's comfortable working in a 3-4 scheme.
• Speaking of which, I was anxious to ask Kelly about his move to that format this year. He dumped former defensive coordinator Joe Tresey and hired Bob Diaco from Virginia, saying he wanted to revamp the defense. But when I interviewed Diaco, the new Bearcats defensive boss said he wouldn't commit just yet to running solely a 3-4 scheme.
So here's what Kelly had to say about the defense:
"We want to be in a position that we can, if we want to, line up in a three-down defense and play our base. But, for example, we play Dec. 5 at Pittsburgh. If we feel like we need to move the front and be in a four-down because of weather conditions and (Pitt) running the ball, we can certainly do that.
"I think today's defense has got to be able to move in and out of the three-down defense. ... It's pretty similar to what the New England Patriots do. One week you might see them in the 3-4, the next week they're four down."
• Kelly said the key is having a player who can line up either as a linebacker or with his hand on the ground. And he believes he has that player in Curtis Young.
Don't want to steal any more of my thunder from Wednesday, but make sure to check it out.
Originally Posted by DLo13
Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by dreClark
Greyshirting is basically where a kid enrolls in January of the following year instead of enrolling in the fall/summer of the current year.
Say I commit to UM () in Feb, 09. I'll get greyshirted and enroll in January of 2010 instead of summer 09. And my scholarship will count towards the 2010 recruits, not the 2009 recruits.
And for that fall 09 I can only take a certain number of credit hours (if any) if I take over a certain amount my eligiblity clock will start.
So what is the benefit of this? Is it for the player, or the school? Is it merely to have a kid signed early for the 10 season and not have to worry about him?
Usually it's done to get around the 25 scholarship limit. That's why schools like Alabama and Ole Miss can go out and sign 30 or so players. A few won't qualify and then they can throw the greyshirt on the others and push them into next year.
that picture is in an ad on facebook.Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis
We have a chance but it's a small one IMO.
And what kinda @%@!#%@ do you have to be to put this on your myspace?
Recruits getting paid.
Negro like 20 pages ago I told everyone if yall fav. teams aint gettin them Florida boys in 2010 they are gonna be missing out on some gemsOriginally Posted by Fear The Ibis
That list has a long way to go.
I knew Florida was stacked at WR next year but damn.
Originally Posted by The Wizard
that picture is in an ad on facebook.Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis
We have a chance but it's a small one IMO.
And what kinda @%@!#%@ do you have to be to put this on your myspace?
Recruits getting paid.
Everything is bigger and better in Texas, and that's especially correct when talking about the talent in the Lone Star State for the 2010 recruiting class.
In the first edition of the Rivals100, three of the nation's top six players are from Texas.
The nation's top prospect is offensive tackle Seantrel Henderson of Saint Paul (Minn.) Cretin-Derham Hall. But at No. 2 is running back Lache Seastrunk of Temple (Texas) High. Behind him at No. 3 is receiver Darius White of Fort Worth (Texas) Dunbar, and at No. 6 is defensive end Jackson Jeffcoat of Plano (Texas) West.
"This is definitely a special group of players at the top of the list from Texas," Rivals.com analyst Barry Every said. "Seastrunk is one of the fastest players in the nation, and he's got the ability to change the game every time he touches the ball. White is in the same Julio Jones/A.J. Green/Rueben Randle mold. I think he'll be able to have an immediate impact as a true freshman. Then there is Jeffcoat, who is a huge defensive end with a great pedigree and amazing overall athleticism."
Overall, Texas isn't as deep as Florida, which placed 19 players on the Rivals100 compared to the Lone Star State's 13. But Every said one thing that further cements this Texas crop as special is the overall quality of the group.
"I wouldn't necessarily say this Texas group compares to what we saw from Florida last year, when there were 14 players in the top 70 nationally, and it's still behind overall as far as this year is concerned," he said. "But where Texas gets its huge edge is that it has much more balance at each position, especially on both the offensive and defensive line, whereas Florida - as usual - is skill-position heavy."
32 of the Top 100 outta Texas/Florida...
Adrian White will announce Friday... Texas lock as of a couple of weeks ago, but I've read he talked to Poppa Kiffin and Tennessee might have a chance...Gunna?
He's announcing on Geoff Ketchum's radio show...doesn't really seem to leave too many options open...Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Adrian White will announce Friday... Texas lock as of a couple of weeks ago, but I've read he talked to Poppa Kiffin and Tennessee might have a chance... Gunna?
But how awesome would it be if he went on an Austin radio show with Texas' rivals affiliate and announced he WASN'T going to Texas...?Originally Posted by tmay407
He's announcing on Geoff Ketchum's radio show...doesn't really seem to leave too many options open...Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Adrian White will announce Friday... Texas lock as of a couple of weeks ago, but I've read he talked to Poppa Kiffin and Tennessee might have a chance... Gunna?
[h1]Breaking the huddle on spring practice[/h1]
By Ivan Maisel
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: March 11, 2009
[h3]Forward Thinking[/h3]
You don't have to be Todd Blackledge to know that Florida, Texas and USC -- which have won four of the past five BCS championships and finished in the top five last season -- will contend again this fall. All three teams have talent as well as experience. The mixture of those two ingredients is combustible, especially on autumn Saturdays.
Several teams skewed young last season and achieved some success, all with the hope that the payoff would come this fall, when they could mix talent and experience. It's not as easy as playing young players. If it were, then tossing freshmen out there would solve every team's woes.
The young players have to have talent, and they have to be sturdy enough as teenagers to remain healthy while they take a pummeling from opponents who may be three or four years older at an age when that represents a significant physical difference.
As spring ball begins in earnest this month, here are five teams, based on their record last season and the number of returning starters this season, that should be poised to take a big step forward.
James Lang/US Presswire
Jacory Harris is set to lead the Hurricanes in 2009.
1. Miami -- The Hurricanes, 7-6 last season, have generated all kinds of hype for next fall. Coach Randy Shannon has nurtured a very young team through two mediocre seasons. Now 17 starters return (if you count punter/kicker Matt Bosher twice, which we do). There's no longer any doubt about who will play quarterback. Jacory Harris is there. Robert Marve is not. If there's a question about newcomers at the U, it's the coaching staff. Mark Whipple, who will run the offense, may be the best coordinator hire of the college football offseason. John Lovett will run the defense. In other words, the table is set. The question, as it has been for five years, is whether the Hurricanes will arrive.
2. Oklahoma State -- With 17 starters returning from a team that finished 9-4, this is the year the Cowboys should break through, especially now that Big 12 South nouveau power Texas Tech must rebuild so much of its offense. Junior wide receiver Dez Bryant's knee-ligament tear in the Holiday Bowl has been surgically repaired. He should be fine in the fall. So should quarterback Zac Robinson and tailback Kendall Hunter. We'll find out early; the Cowboys open at home on Sept. 5 against Georgia.
3. Minnesota -- The Gophers have 19 returning starters, including wide receiver Eric Decker, who may be the best receiver north of Julio Jones. A healthy Decker helped Minnesota begin 7-1. An injured Decker left the Gophers' offense shorthanded as Minnesota lost its last four regular-season games. Like Miami, the biggest changes for Minnesota are among the guys wearing whistles. Offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch, 32, who comes from the NFL, has never been a coordinator. Offensive line coach Tim Davis is a steal. Defensive coordinator Kevin Cosgrove is a veteran who knows the Big Ten well. His defenses played well at Wisconsin under Barry Alvarez. At Nebraska under Bill Callahan, they didn't.
4. Vanderbilt -- The safe bet would be to assume that the Commodores, 7-6 last season, are one-hit wonders. They (barely) made a bowl game last season for the first time in 26 years. But nine starters return on each side of the ball, as well as punter Brett Upson. More experience can only help the offense. In eight games, the Commodores scored 16 points or fewer. That they actually won two of them is a tribute to the defense, which allowed only 20 points and 320 yards per game. One problem: Vandy adds LSU and Georgia Tech to the schedule.
5. Stanford -- The Cardinal went 5-7 last season, losing to UCLA and Oregon in the final 10 seconds. That's a memory that should spur the returning starters, which number 17 or 18, depending upon who goes at middle linebacker. One dark horse: fullback Owen Marecic. Midway through spring practice, coach Jim Harbaugh announced that the junior will play both ways next fall. Another not-as-dark horse: redshirt freshman quarterback Andrew Luck, who is pushing fifth-year senior Tavita Pritchard for the starting job. If nothing else, Stanford has depth it hasn't had in years. The schedule remains tough (at TCU off, at Wake Forest on) but Stanford has five Pac-10 games on the Farm. That may tip the scales toward the Cardinal's first bowl berth in eight years.
Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com. Send your questions and comments to Ivan at [email protected].
