09 Real Deal College Football Discussion/No Homers - Lets geh geh GET IT!

[stackjaxx]

Originally Posted by EnEyeKayEe

Originally Posted by Chester the Cheetah

No Miami in the top 5?

...next year honestly looks WIDE OPEN.

Alabama's ground game is going to be unfair though.

(how many lineman do they got returning?)

And can someone PLEASE answer this question:

Supposedly McElroy hasn't lost a football game since 8th grade.

Who the hell did he have playing around him in HS?!/or was he really playing THAT bad of competition in Texas?!

Dirk? tmay?

He went to southlake. which is crazy good. and he didnt even play until senior year.

 

[statis22]

Competition ain't that bad, Carroll is just THAT good. They had won like 4 state titles in a row if im not mistaken.

 

[jville819]

He played at southlake Carroll. I don't even know if Chase Daniel ever lost a game there.

Bama will not be as good as they are if they don't get some playmakers asap. the backfield will be stacked but losing those stars on D will hurt a lot andMcelroy and those WRs will continue to hurt this offense

 

[the wizard]

he only started one yr there

 

[gunna get it]

Ironman

how yall got top 5s and u dont even know who all is declaring for the draft?

 

[ooiron manoo]

VTech Top 5

Why ya'll set that team up to fail year in and year out?

I can't name a Top 5 yet.

 

[tmay407]

Originally Posted by EnEyeKayEe

And can someone PLEASE answer this question:

Supposedly McElroy hasn't lost a football game since 8th grade.

Who the hell did he have playing around him in HS?!/or was he really playing THAT bad of competition in Texas?!

Dirk? tmay?

The thing about that Carroll program...they basically run the same exact offense and defense starting in elementary school and on up throughjunior high and high school. So those kids run that system for 8 years before they even get to high school.

McElroy didn't really have any huge names around him when he was there. The only person that people would probably know is Tre Newton. Southlake had 10 D-1signees on that team his senior year, with 7 on the offensive side, butif I told you their names, you wouldn't have a clue who they were...they went toschools like Rice, BYU, TCU, Navy, etc. The competition that he played against really wasn't bad at all, but that Southlake team just played solid ballevery game.

And yes, it's true that McElroy hasn't lost a game that he's started since junior high.

Originally Posted by Statis22

Competition ain't that bad, Carroll is just THAT good. They had won like 4 state titles in a row if im not mistaken.

At one point they had won three out of four state titles.

 

[eneyekayee]

Thank you.

1 year starter at Southlake Carroll sums it up...

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

VTech Top 5

Why ya'll set that team up to fail year in and year out?

I can't name a Top 5 yet.

QFT


anyways

what are the big out of conference games for next year?

i know of now
UCLA VS Texas
Ohio state VS miami
boise state VS Vtech
Oregon VS tennesse
USC VS Minnesota
Pitt VS miami

 

[statis22]

Penn St travels to Bama next year also

 

[tmay407]

Don't Oregon State and TCU start the year off in Cowboys Stadium?

 

[kal ripped ken]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

VTech Top 5

Why ya'll set that team up to fail year in and year out?

I can't name a Top 5 yet.

QFT


anyways

what are the big out of conference games for next year?

i know of now
UCLA VS Texas
Ohio state VS miami
boise state VS Vtech
Oregon VS tennesse
USC VS Minnesota
Pitt VS miami

those are gonna be great games

 

[kal ripped ken]

^ yup

 

[ddot7]

I don't think it's particularly big but Clemson plays at Auburn, I believe.

 

[tmay407]

Not sure if you'd consider these "big" OOC games, but Houston plays @ UCLA, @ Texas Tech, and vs. Mississippi State.

 

[jville819]

FSU plays OU at Norman.

 

[bigmike23]

Who is playing in that Georgia dome game this year?

 

[statis22]

Originally Posted by tmay407

Not sure if you'd consider these "big" OOC games, but Houston plays @ UCLA, @ Texas Tech, and vs. Mississippi State.

And they took Navy off the schedule. Aint tryin to get beat down by SAs again lol

 

[juicy j 32]

UNC vs. LSU in Atlanta to begin the year should be a great game.

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Willis is coming to UNC per three of inside carolina's most credible sources...

 

[statis22]

Final poll Jan. 8, 2010 EDITOR'S NOTE: Only 58 coaches voted. Former Akron coach J.D. Brookhart could not be reached to file a vote.
Rank	Team (first-place votes)	Record	Points	Final regular season rank
1.	Alabama (5	14-0	1,450	1
2.	Texas	13-1	1,360	2
3.	Florida	13-1	1,323	5
4.	Boise State	14-0	1,312	6
5.	Ohio State	11-2	1,190	8
6.	http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/oklahoma.htmTCU	12-1	1,104	3
7.	Iowa	11-2	1,087	11
8.	Penn State	11-2	1,071	9
9.	Cincinnati	12-1	943	4
10.	Virginia Tech	10-3	940	12
11.	Oregon	10-3	846	7
12.	Brigham Young	11-2	814	14
13.	Georgia Tech	11-3	741	10
14.	Nebraska	10-4	671	19
15.	http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigeast/sflorida.htmPittsburgh	10-3	667	16
16.	Wisconsin	10-3	587	22
17.	LSU	9-4	530	13
18.	Utah	10-3	466	24
19.	Miami (Fla.)	9-4	336	15
20.	Southern California	9-4	217	NR
21.	Mississippi	9-4	192	NR
22.	West Virginia	9-4	159	17
23.	Texas Tech	9-4	152	NR
24.	Central Michigan	12-2	123	NR
25.	Oklahoma State	9-4	92	18
Dropped out
No. 20 Oregon State (8-5, lost to then-No. 14 Brigham Young 44-20), No. 21 Stanford (8-5, lost to Oklahoma 31-27), No. 23 Arizona (8-5, lost to then-No. 19 Nebraska 33-0), No. 25 Houston (10-4, lost to Air Force 47-20).
Others receiving votes
Navy (10-4) 89; Oregon State (8-5) 78; Clemson (9-5) 75; Oklahoma (8-5) 67; Stanford (8-5) 49; Auburn (8-5) 17; Georgia (8-5) 13; Houston (10-4) 12; Middle Tennessee (10-3) 12; Arizona (8-5) 11; Arkansas (8-5) 10; Connecticut (8-5) 10; Florida State (7-6) 9; Air Force (8-5) 7; Rutgers (9-4) 7; Northwestern (8-5) 6; East Carolina (9-5) 4; Southern Methodist (8-5) 1.

 

[tmay407]

I'm bored, so what the hell...here are the games that could maybe be considered "big" depending on who you're a fan of...

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ACC
Clemson - @ Auburn, vs. South Carolina
Duke - vs. Alabama
FSU - @ OU, vs. BYU, and vs. Florida
Georgia Tech - @ Kansas, @ Georgia
Miami - @ Ohio State, @ Pittsburgh, vs. USF
North Carolina - vs. LSU, @ Rutgers
NC State - vs. Cincinnati
Virginia - @ USC
Virginia Tech - vs. Boise State
Wake Forest - @ Stanford, @ Vanderbilt

Big 12
Colorado - @ Cal, vs. Georgia
Iowa State - @ Iowa, vs. Utah
Kansas - vs. Georgia Tech
Kansas State - @ UCLA
Missouri - vs. Illinois
Nebraska - @ Washington
Oklahoma - vs. Florida State, vs. Air Force, @ Cincinnati
Texas - vs. UCLA
Texas A&M - vs. Arkansas
Texas Tech - vs. SMU, vs. Houston

Big East
Cincinnati - @ NC State, vs. Oklahoma
Connecticut - @ Michigan, @ Temple
Louisville - @ Oregon State
Pittsburgh - @ Utah, vs. Miami
Rutgers - vs. North Carolina
Syracuse - @ Washington
USF - @ Florida, @ Miami
West Virginia - @ LSU

Big Ten
Illinois - vs. Missouri
Iowa - vs. Iowa State, @ Arizona
Michigan - vs. Connecticut
Minnesota - vs. USC
Northwestern - @ Vanderbilt
Ohio State - vs. Miami
Penn State - @ Alabama, vs. Temple
Wisconsin - vs. Arizona State

Mountain West
Air Force - @ Oklahoma
BYU - vs. Washington, @ Florida State
TCU - vs. Oregon State, @ SMU
Utah - vs. Pittsburgh, @ Iowa State

Pac 10
Arizona - vs. Iowa
Arizona State - @ Wisconsin
Cal - vs. Colorado
Oregon - @ Tennessee
Oregon State - vs. TCU, @ Louisville, @ Boise State
Stanford - vs. Wake Forest
UCLA - @ Kansas State, vs. Houston, @ Texas
USC - vs. Virginia, @ Minnesota
Washington - @BYU, vs. Syracuse, vs. Nebraska

SEC
Alabama - vs. Penn State, @ Duke,
Arkansas - @ Texas A&M
Auburn - vs. Clemson
Florida - vs. USF, @ Florida State
Georgia - @ Colorado, @ Georgia Tech
LSU - vs. North Carolina, vs. West Virginia
Mississippi State - @ Houston
South Carolina - @ Clemson
Tennessee - vs. Oregon
Vanderbilt - vs. Northwestern, @ Connecticut, vs. Wake Forest

If y'all want dates on any of those or any of the OOC games for some of the schools not listed, let me know. Also, neutral games arelisted above as so...they're listed depending on who has the home designation for that game.

 

[dacomeup]

Originally Posted by EnEyeKayEe

Originally Posted by DaComeUP

Allen, Brian Kelly brought Bob Diaco with him to ND and was named DC today.

ND fans are going to absolutely hate this dude. I wonder if he's going to
try the 3-4 there like he did at UC? Maybe it will be more successful at ND, but Diaco's bend but don't break defense at UC was abysmal. He was
definitely the worse hire that Kelly made while he was at UC. It was worse because Kelly fired Joe Tresey to bring Diaco on at UC. Soft zone D, which was
absolutely exposed numerous times this year.

Kelly is trying to absolutely ruin any chance he had before he even starts.

Diaco sucked at UC, but he was coming to a team that had just lost 10 defensive starters and he switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4. However, the defense gotprogressively worse as the season went on instead of better. 89 points given up to UCONN and Pitt alone. Big numbers on the ground given up to Ryan Matthews atFresno State. It looks like he's bringing the 3-4 with him based on the interview when he was hired.

On his defensive scheme:
"It bases out of a 3-4. We've created a system where we go quickly from three down linemen to four down linemen and we can get that reduced player wherever we need it to be. That's part of the overall package. One great thing about basing out of a 3-4 is the element that the offense doesn't know where the fourth rusher will be coming from. A fourth rusher can come from the field. A fourth rusher can come from the boundary. A fourth rusher can come from the inside."

I'm not sure how he was at UVA under Al Groh, but Cincinnati fans couldn't be any more happy to see him leave.

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

kelly been bringing in D2 coachs to fill his staff also right?

Yup. He's bringing Chuck Martin who was the head coach at GVSU, where Kelly started at. He's only going to be the DB coach, and he had a 74-7 recordreplacing Kelly at GVSU so I don't think that is a bad hire. I'm really surprised that ND allowed him to bring these small name guys in, but they mustbe a little more cash strapped since they still owe Weis a lot of money.

 

[tennhouse2]

Originally Posted by StackJaxx

Originally Posted by EnEyeKayEe

Originally Posted by Chester the Cheetah

No Miami in the top 5?

...next year honestly looks WIDE OPEN.

Alabama's ground game is going to be unfair though.

(how many lineman do they got returning?)

And can someone PLEASE answer this question:

Supposedly McElroy hasn't lost a football game since 8th grade.

Who the hell did he have playing around him in HS?!/or was he really playing THAT bad of competition in Texas?!

Dirk? tmay?

I played Southlake In the State Playoffs and trust me they are no joke

 

[iye2]

3 big10 teams in the top ten

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

How the hell did Saban @ Co. let Solomon Patton get out of the state