09 Real Deal College Football Discussion/No Homers - Lets geh geh GET IT!

Originally Posted by dreClark

Does Nance have a legit shot of getting ANY real PT @ UT?

If not, I don't understand the parents insisting on going to a major D1 college if thier kid isn't major D1 material.

But again, I don't know much about this Nance kid.
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he has offers from Vandy, miss st, wake, WVA.

He looks decent.

I dunno what they expect but depth at QB is an issue in Knoxville

I'll take him if it lands Da'rick
 
Aaron Corp is transfering to Richmond.



Mitch is closing the gap (nh)........
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who is miami in the running for? i havent been keeping up w/ recruiting like that recently
 
IMO Randy Shannon and staff are not doing a great job recruiting.

Theyre still in it for Corey Lemonier and Ivan McCartney

but those guys should be UM Locks being theyre from Hialeah and Miramar...

I just aint sold on RS.

UM heads, lemme know ...
 
Im not basing that off Stars or anything, Im basing that off kids who should be Miami Locks. theres ALOT of South Florida kids going elsewhere to schools andthat concerns me.


also, Briles turned down Texas Tech yesterday correct? some dudes are saying Briles has now agreed to the Tech job? any confirmation?
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

also, Briles turned down Texas Tech yesterday correct? some dudes are saying Briles has now agreed to the Tech job? any confirmation?
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From what I've heard, there's a pretty serious division among the Tech boosters right now. Nobody really seems to want the same coach. Asfar as Briles goes, the Tech boosters wanted to only pay part of Briles' buyout at Baylor, and wanted Briles to pay about half of it.

Supposedly Briles used the interest in the Tech job to get a raise at Baylor.
 
IMO Randy Shannon and staff are not doing a great job recruiting.



Going to have to disagree this. As this being a "fill the gaps" class, This is Miami's best offensive line class on paper in recent memory. Notto mention Miami is getting Seantrel Henderson and his dad on campus a week before signing day for an official. Miami also will also finally have some healthycompetition at corner as well based of this class.

In the Palm Beach area, Miami has taken shots at some kids and lost, but they're going Florida. Right now, Florida is the the top dawg so that'sunderstandable. Broward is in a big time down year. However, Sticks McCartney(arguably the top wideout in the State) is a Miami lock, pending a qualifyingscore on the ACT. If he isn't Miami bound, it's not due to coming up short from a recruting standpoint.

The only kid so far out Dade whom Miami actively recruited and lost so far has been Joyner. That's a kid whom was always going to FSU as soon as thedirection of that program became clearer. Life long FSU fan.



If Miami loses out on Lemonier, then you can point out that as kid whom Miami had no business losing out on. However, based of what I've heard coming outof the Hecht Center, I think that kid stays home when it's all said and done.

Nationally/OOS wise, Miami is in for some STUDS for this stretch run. A couple of stud DT's, A couple of Cali kids(a tight end, and a linebacker, twoneeds), and the aforementioned number 1 prospect in the nation, Henderson is coming for a visit.

I'd wait to signing day to judge and or critique...
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Originally Posted by Black Jesus

Originally Posted by rawjs

Anyone got any wagers tonight?
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thought about texas but idk as of now .......
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From what I have heard, and I have tried to stay away from gambling this year, is that a lot of people jumped on UT to bring the line down... Ifthis is the case, I'm gonna hammer 'Bama. What site do you use if u don't mind me asking?
 
I learned the hard way about a so called "fill in the gap" class... Phil Fulmer tried to push that %+!@ on us when our best recruits was EJAW andGerald Williams (who was already a signee) , the rest were all reaches. and then 2 yrs later after losing upperclassmen, transfers and injuries, we have Zeroquality depth because of it.

Ego is now a must have after giving away Nix and Cazmpbell.
 
A 'fill in the gaps' class makes no sense when you got teams like Bama, USC, Florida, Texas, LSU, etc who simply reload in every class. There is hardya year when they don't land a # of prospects at all positions, save for QB.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

I learned the hard way about a so called "fill in the gap" class... Phil Fulmer tried to push that %+!@ on us when our best recruits was EJAW and Gerald Williams (who was already a signee) , the rest were all reaches. and then 2 yrs later after losing upperclassmen, transfers and injuries, we have Zero quality depth because of it.
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And you don't think I recognize a terrible foundation set based of having to go thru Larry *#@%!#@ Coker?
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Whom single handedly turned Miami from being a Bentley Arnage into a HyundaiSonata?

Not sold on Shannon from a coaching standpoint(these 'recruiters', the Mike Barrows, the Clint Hurts are not cutting it as posistional coaches in theleast bit so far)...But the shelves are being re-stocked just fine.....
 
Coach ginn doesn't get enough credit for what he does for the community of cleveland and obviously for his players. he doesn't push them towards ohio st. I can promise you that.
IYE2...do you live in Cleveland? Ginn Sr. gets plenty of credit for what he does for the community IMO. But, you gotta understand there are 2sides to everything.

For all the good he's done getting "his" players a chance to go to college for free when a lot of them would have never had that opportunity isgreat. Honestly his bus tour and getting these kids the chance to receive a college education is very respected.
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...But you could argue that he's ruined a few Cleveland area school'sfootball programs as well. He has basically single-handedly ruined Benedictine's football program. They were a contender for the state championshipbasically every year in their division until about 4-5 years ago (now they haven't even made the playoffs in years). He's gotten about 4-5 of theirbest kids to transfer for the past 4 seasons. Not to mention St. Edward (Troy Smith, Ray Small, and Latwan Anderson). I could go on and on about the playerstransferring in there and it definitely isn't all clean. Most of his big time recruits never started out atGlenville to begin with.

How can you promise that he doesn't push players to Columbus? I think there is only one kid from Glenville who ever turned Tressdown (Cordalle Scott).

I can't remember if tOSU was really pursuing Pierre Woods (one of Ginn's first big time recruits), but I know damn well after Lloyd had him in hisdoghouse after his soph year, and after Teddy went to tOSU, Ginn Sr. has done all he has possibly could to keep his players away from Ann Arbor.

Now, on another note, you guys are getting one of the most under the radar kids in the country in LB, Scott McVey (Cleveland St. Ignatius). Same school asLeCharles Bentley and Anthony Gonzalez. His junior year, he was HANDS DOWN one of the best players in the state ofOH. He completely exposed Marcus Hall and was the best player on the field for the Ignatius/Glennville game and was the MVP of the Division 1 State Titlegame, Ignatius/Elder (13 tackles, 5 sacks and a pick). He is RELENTLESS and is extremely smart/disciplined. If he wasn't a bit undersized (he'sofficially 5'11"), and didn't play off and on through a serious shoulder injury his entire Sr. year (he recently had surgery), he would be one ofthe top LB recruits in the country. Scout still has him as their #4 overall Mike, but his ranking/stock has plummeted everywhere else.

Kid is an absolute player, and I'll definitely be rooting for him personally (it pains me to say it).
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Any chance we get Seantrel, Jordan Hicks, and Latwan Anderson?? Greed FTW
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Elam will end up at UF...don't mind the crazy charades.

Keenan Allen will a beast at Bama, no joke.

Thought Da'Rick Rogers was sold on UGA but nothing's 100% in recruiting. How did the Vols lose Martin by the way (haven't paid attention)?

Aaron Corp is transfering to Richmond.
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How fast the high have fallen. Couldn't handle thecompetition I guess, always happens under Pete Carroll.

IMO Randy Shannon and staff are not doing a great job recruiting.
Agreed. Not only that but Shannon hasn't proven to be a good HC in his time at Miami. I hope Charlie Strong does better when he gets adeserving gig.

Supposedly Briles used the interest in the Tech job to get a raise at Baylor.
You guys will probably end up with Tuberville. How does the program feel about Ruffin McNeill as HC? The team seemed to rally for him in the bowlgame against MSU.
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Originally Posted by EnEyeKayEe

Coach ginn doesn't get enough credit for what he does for the community of cleveland and obviously for his players. he doesn't push them towards ohio st. I can promise you that.
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IYE2...do you live in Cleveland? Ginn Sr. gets plenty of credit for what he does for the community IMO. But, you gotta understand there are 2 sides to everything.

For all the good he's done getting "his" players a chance to go to college for free when a lot of them would have never had that opportunity is great. Honestly his bus tour and getting these kids the chance to receive a college education is very respected.
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...But you could argue that he's ruined a few Cleveland area school's football programs as well. He has basically single-handedly ruined Benedictine's football program. They were a contender for the state championship basically every year in their division until about 4-5 years ago (now they haven't even made the playoffs in years). He's gotten about 4-5 of their best kids to transfer for the past 4 seasons. Not to mention St. Edward (Troy Smith, Ray Small, and Latwan Anderson). I could go on and on about the players transferring in there and it definitely isn't all clean. Most of his big time recruits never started out at Glenville to begin with.

How can you promise that he doesn't push players to Columbus? I think there is only one kid from Glenville who ever turned Tress down (Cordalle Scott).

I can't remember if tOSU was really pursuing Pierre Woods (one of Ginn's first big time recruits), but I know damn well after Lloyd had him in his doghouse after his soph year, and after Teddy went to tOSU, Ginn Sr. has done all he has possibly could to keep his players away from Ann Arbor.

Now, on another note, you guys are getting one of the most under the radar kids in the country in LB, Scott McVey (Cleveland St. Ignatius). Same school as LeCharles Bentley and Anthony Gonzalez. His junior year, he was HANDS DOWN one of the best players in the state of OH. He completely exposed Marcus Hall and was the best player on the field for the Ignatius/Glennville game and was the MVP of the Division 1 State Title game, Ignatius/Elder (13 tackles, 5 sacks and a pick). He is RELENTLESS and is extremely smart/disciplined. If he wasn't a bit undersized (he's officially 5'11"), and didn't play off and on through a serious shoulder injury his entire Sr. year (he recently had surgery), he would be one of the top LB recruits in the country. Scout still has him as their #4 overall Mike, but his ranking/stock has plummeted every where else.

Kid is an absolute player, and I'll definitely be rooting for him personally (it pains me to say it).


This I can vouch. I've heard this numerous places. I believe Pierre Woods committed to Michigan right before Tressel was hired. It would be amajor coup for Michigan to get a Glenville player...you wanna see Ohio State's message boards go in meltdown mode?...if/when a Glenville player commits toMichigan...grab the popcorn.

Hell, there's already people upset with Tressel right now saying he "can't close out" a recruiting class b/c Floyd's going toFlorida...this is 6 days since winning the Rose Bowl. If he lost a major Glenville player to Michigan...the torches and pitchforks would be out.
 
Originally Posted by ChampCruThik

Supposedly Briles used the interest in the Tech job to get a raise at Baylor.
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You guys will probably end up with Tuberville. How does the program feel about Ruffin McNeill as HC? The team seemed to rally for him in the bowl game against MSU.
Apparently all of the boosters each have a different candidate that they want as the next head coach. Sowell (the main guy from the e-mails fromlast year that appeared courtesy of Dallas Morning News) is probably the most influential booster, and wanted Briles. Sowell couldn't afford to payBriles' Baylor buyout by himself, and none of the boosters seem willing to get behind him.

Tech's President is an Alabama alum, and feels like Kirby Smart is the guy for the job...I don't see Kirby Smart having much interest in the Tech jobat all, but whatever.

The guy behind McNeill supposedly doesn't have enough political pull with the other boosters to make McNeill the top candidate.

It's just a big circus up there right now...no telling what's gonna end up happening. (And Tech isn't my team, by the way.)
 
Players supposedly want McNeill but Admin don't wanna give the job to someone unproven...

I figured it was Briles first and Ruffin second, but apparently they're giving Tubbs a real look
 
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