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2008 NT Boxing Post Vol. Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 12/6/08 HBO PPV
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Yall trippin with all that Floyd is gonna run through anybody he doesn' t streamroll anybody thats not his mentality floyd is a boxer first he'll pickand peck for decision first . ODH stopped jabbing his way inside in the fight with floyd he keeps up the jab he has a better shot at winning . As far as himfighting Cotto hopefully it will happen next year . I dont know why people keep thinking Zab is gonna come out blazing and stopping people if you haventnoticed by now he is mentally challenged after the 4-5 rd he falls apart. Moseley should beat him on points maybe late stoppage . Cotto- Floyd is a trickyfight because Cotto has good hand speed great power and he can do a few different things and since he came up to 147 his chin has been solid and he is Mentallytough . As far as Margarito goes he is tough night for anybody why ? hes a big welter at 5 ' 11" , Fights well on the inside and has a great chin anda incredible work rate I think another thing people miss about him is he has good timing . Its not about speed all the time , you can neutralize speed with agood jab and timing .
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He got the same fighting Baldomir, he just recieved a percentage of the PPV profits.
Therefore, he got more fighting Baldomir than Margarito. Besides, actual purse numbers weren't released from what i remember, insiders saidFloyd got AT LEAST 8 + PPV profits. Either way, he made more against Baldomir than Margo.
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Avy Check!
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Nice avy, Jay
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nice avyLooks like Clottey will fight for a belt and two big unification matches are coming up.
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[h1]Scorecard: Welterweight titlists head toward summer clash[/h1]
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: April 14, 2008
Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images
How we doin', Fonsy? Gomez, right, spent much of Saturday night peeling himself off the canvas.
A roundup of last week's notable boxing results from around the world:
Welterweight[table][tr][th=""]
Antonio Margarito KO6 Kermit Cintron
Wins a welterweight titleSaturday at Atlantic City, N.J.[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Welterweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Cotto, 32-0, 26 KOs; Gomez, 18-4-2, 8 KOs
Miguel Cotto TKO5 Alfonso Gomez
Retains a welterweight title
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Did Cotto even break a sweat? That's how easy his fourth title defense was against Gomez, who was thoroughly outclassed by one of the very best fighters in the world. For Cotto, Puerto Rico's No. 1 active fighter, the fight was something of a breather after tough back-to-back wins against Shane Mosley and Zab Judah. Next up for Cotto is a July 26 showdown with rugged Antonio Margarito, who earned the title shot with a blowout of Kermit Cintron in the night's co-feature. But Cotto, with poise, power and precision, was the star of the show; he did as he pleased while most of the 9,427 in attendance cheered for him. From the opening seconds of the fight, when Gomez's face began to redden from eating flush punches, this was a massacre. Cotto landed an alarming 51 percent of punches, scored knockdowns on body shots in the second and third rounds, and then floored Gomez in the fifth round with, of all things, a jab. Thankfully, ringside doctor Mark Schaber called for the fight to be stopped after the round because Gomez's father and trainer, Alfonso Gomez Sr., and referee Randy Neumann sure didn't seem too interested in calling the carnage off. Gomez launched to fame on "The Contender" and then dished out a terrific beating to send Arturo Gatti into retirement nine months ago in the same ring where Neumann would not save Gatti. This time, Gomez felt what it was like to be on the other end. He couldn't hang with Cotto, but Gomez could still come back and make some attractive bouts with fighters other than the elite. Maybe pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. was somewhere watching Cotto's flawless performance. If he was, there would be no reason to think he would change his mind about wanting to fight the best young champion in the sport.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Margarito, 36-5, 26 KOs; Cintron, 29-2, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Man or machine? Margarito looked more like machine in this rematch of a 2005 title bout in which he destroyed Cintron in five rounds. Margarito was defending his version of the title in their first encounter; this time he was going after Cintron's belt. Cintron had been haunted by that loss for the past three years and was man enough to give Margarito a rematch. Turned out to be a mistake. Although Cintron, a sensational puncher, delivered some hard blows, Margarito walked through them and took Cintron apart again in a shockingly one-sided fight. Margarito, 30, had lost his version of the title to Paul Williams last summer because he started slow and gave away most of the first half of the fight. He clearly has learned his lesson. He blew out Golden Johnson in one round in his November comeback fight and also started fast against Cintron, 28, never letting up until knocking him out with a brutal left to the body in the sixth. Margarito was so thoroughly enjoying the butt-whipping he was laying on Cintron that while he was on the canvas taking the count from referee Earl Brown, Margarito was in the neutral corner begging Cintron to get up. Alas, he didn't and his title reign was over after two successful defenses. Margarito's victory sets up a July 26 with main event winner Miguel Cotto, which has all the ingredients to make for a classic. It's Mexico vs. Puerto Rico. Brawler against brawler. It has fight of the year written all over it, and that's even in a year that has already produced Israel Vazquez-Rafael Marquez III and Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez II. As for the belt Margarito won, he won't keep it for long. The plan is for him to give it up in order to fight Cotto rather than face mandatory challenger Joshua Clottey, who will fight for a vacant belt, perhaps on the undercard of the July 26 Cotto-Margarito showdown.[/td] [/tr][/table]Light heavyweight
Chad Dawson W12 Glen Johnson
Retains a light heavyweight title
Scores: 116-112 (three times)Bantamweight
Yan Barthelemy W6 Jose Garcia Bernal
Scores: 60-53 (three times)Heavyweight[table][tr][th=""]
Danny Williams W6 Marcus McGhee
Scores: 60-52 (three times)Saturday at Tampa[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Light heavyweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Tarver, 27-4, 19 KOs; Woods, 41-4-1, 24 KOs
Antonio Tarver W12 Clinton Woods
Wins a light heavyweight title
Scores: 119-109, 117-111, 116-112
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Tarver and Woods could not come close to matching the excitement produced by the sizzling Showtime opener between Chad Dawson and Glen Johnson. Instead, Tarver simply boxed his way to a decisive decision in front of a hometown crowd against a seemingly disinterested Woods, 35, who appeared more content to be there for his fifth defense than to try to win. Tarver, a southpaw, used his left hand quite effectively and Woods, 35, had little answer for it. It was a solid victory for Tarver, 39, and gained the former division kingpin another alphabet belt. It was the best performance of the three bouts he's had since being wiped out by legitimate division champion Bernard Hopkins in June 2006. The victory also set the stage for a likely fall bout with Dawson, whom Tarver has been avoiding but now says he is willing to fight.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Dawson, 26-0, 17 KOs; Johnson, 47-12-2, 32 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Whoever you thought won the fight, we can probably all agree that it was a dynamite action battle between two outstanding fighters. Dawson, in his third defense, got the big test many were looking for him to pass and he handled it well. However, there are certainly some chinks in the armor that the utterly professional Johnson exposed. It's not often that you see a 39-year-old (Johnson) walking down and chasing after a 25-year-old (Dawson) in the late rounds. It usually works the other way in a young man's game. But Johnson, a supremely conditioned former champion, was in exquisite shape and looked like he could have gone another 10 rounds when it ended. Dawson, however, was dead tired in the late rounds and was on the verge of getting knocked out in the 10th when Johnson hammered him with a nice right hand. Credit Dawson for surviving a number of rough patches to prove his metal. The scores of the fight are deceiving, however. Johnson clearly won at least three of the last four rounds; maybe he should have swept the last four. There's no way he lost by such a wide margin. The crowd booed the decision relentlessly and Showtime's Al Bernstein had it a draw. You could also certainly make the argument that Johnson deserved a close decision. But that is the story of Johnson's career, losing numerous close calls or blatant robberies. He should feel good about his performance though and know that he will get another notable fight and payday off his performance. The experience of facing Johnson will be invaluable to Dawson, who probably is headed for a fall unification match with main event winner Antonio Tarver.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Barthelemy, 6-0, 0 KOs; Bernal, 27-11-1, 18 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Barthelemy, a 2004 Cuban Olympic gold medalist now based in Germany, showed he still has no power as a pro, but he's a consummate technical boxer. He won every round on every scorecard and got an extra point for a knockdown in the fifth. For a guy with only six bouts, Bernal was a credible opponent even though he lost his third in a row and fifth of six. He had previously faced a wealth of quality opponents, including former world titleholders Brian Viloria, Mauricio Pastrana, Noel Arambulet and Roberto Vazquez[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Williams, 38-6, 30 KOs; McGhee, 21-16, 10 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Williams, the 34-year-old Brit, has seen better days but he's still kicking around. Remember him? He knocked out Mike Tyson in 2004 and parlayed it into a title shot at then-heavyweight titleholder Vitali Klitschko, but took a massive beating and was stopped in eight rounds. Since then he's been in some big British fights, splitting two bouts apiece with Matt Skelton and Audley Harrison. Against McGhee, Williams scored knockdowns in the first and third rounds and won via shutout as McGhee dropped his third fight in his last four.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]Saturday at Mafikeng, South Africa[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Junior lightweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Baloyi, 35-3-1, 18 KOs; Fana, 27-4, 10 KOs
Cassius Baloyi W12 Mzonke Fana
Wins a junior lightweight title
Scores: 117-111, 116-112, 114-114
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: The IBF 130-pound title must be bad luck or something because nobody can hang onto it. Since Marco Antonio Barrera was forced to give it up in 2005, the belt has been contested six times. Baloyi won the vacated belt against Manuel Medina and since then it has changed mediocre hands four times in five fights with Baloyi winning it for the second time via majority decision against his South African countryman. The momentum Fana, 34, was gaining midway through the fight was blunted when he split one of his gloves and the delay to change mitts allowed Baloyi, 33, a needed rest, which he used to his advantage. Baloyi could defend against Malcolm Klassen, another South African who briefly held the belt. Klassen scored a seventh-round knockout of Joel de la Cruz on the undercard to set up that possible match, one nobody outside South African is dying to see.[/td] [/tr][/table]Super middleweight
Karo Murat W12 Cristian Sanavia
Wins European super middleweight title
Scores: 116-111, 115-112, 114-113Cruiserweight[table][tr][th=""]
Marco Huck TKO5 Leon Nzama
Saturday at Neubrandenburg, Germany[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Middleweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Sylvester, 29-2, 14 KOs; Castillejo, 62-8, 43 KOs
Sebastian Sylvester KO12 Javier Castillejo
Retains European middleweight title
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Germany's Sylvester successfully defended his European title for the third time with a sensational final-round KO of Castillejo, a former world titleholder from Spain. It was a hard-hitting, physically grueling fight but Sylvester, with the home crowd cheering him on, overcame damage around both eyes. He rocked Castillejo in the sixth round and knocked him cold with 67 seconds left in the fight with a flush right hand. Had Castillejo been victorious, he would have earned a rubber match with middleweight titlist Felix Sturm. Now, it will be Sylvester, 27, who will challenge his countryman in the fall. Castillejo has been written off before, especially following a 2005 loss to Fernando Vargas, after which Castillejo considered retirement. But now, at 40, and having been brutally knocked out you have to wonder if (and why) he would go on.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Murat, 17-0, 11 KOs; Sanavia, 40-4, 12 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: In his first bout against a remotely notable opponent, Murat, 24, of Germany, captured the European title. In Italy's Sanavia, 33, Murat was facing a man who briefly held a slice of the super middleweight world title for four months in 2004. Sanavia cut Murat over his left eye with an accidental head butt but Murat scored a ninth-round knockdown. Murat lost a point on a foul in the 12th but had enough of an advantage to pull out the tight win.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Huck, 20-1, 15 KOs; Nzama, 2-7, 0 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: In December, Huck, 23, was competitive against cruiserweight titlist Steve Cunningham before being stopped in the 12th round of an entertaining bout. Making his comeback, Huck's handlers took no chances, unearthing Nzama, 34, of Zambia, for whom the only kind thing you could say about him is that he had never been stopped previously. That was until Huck became the first to do it. You can understand handlers giving a fighter coming off a TKO loss a soft touch, but this was ridiculous.[/td] [/tr][/table]Junior welterweight[table][tr][th=""]
Henry Bruseles W10 Ben Tackie
Scores: 98-92, 96-94 Bruseles, 96-94 TackieFriday at Atlantic City, N.J.[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Welterweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Soto-Karass, 20-3-3, 14 KOs; Smith, 21-5, 13 KOs
Jesus Soto-Karass W10 Chris Smith
Scores: 98-92, 96-94 (twice)
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: This was the best Telefutura main event of the year so far, but Soto-Karass was fortunate to get the decision. Smith, who threw a ton of punches and was on the attack, has an awfully good case to make that he won the entertaining fight. The 98-92 scorecard for Soto-Karass is outlandish. Nonetheless, the 25-year-old from Los Angeles notched a solid victory to move to 9-0-1 in his last 10 bouts. New York's Smith, 33, the hard-luck loser, dropped to 2-5 in his last seven fights, all of which have come against credible opponents. Soto-Karass may have left some of his game in the gym heading into the fight because he had many spirited sparring sessions with Antonio Margarito, who won his bout the following night.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Bruseles, 27-3-1, 15 KOs; Tackie, 29-10-1, 17 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Bruseles barely outpointed Tackie in a good fight that could have easily been a draw. The judge who had it 98-92 was way off base. Bruseles, 27, of Puerto Rico, racked up his sixth win in a row since being stopped by Floyd Mayweather in the eighth round of a lopsided bout in 2005. Tackie, 34, lost his fourth in a row but remains one of the toughest men in the game. He's never been stopped or visibly hurt despite a resume littered with top names. But now when he fights you already know the result: He'll lose a decision.[/td] [/tr][/table]Super middleweight[table][tr][th=""]
Carlos De Leon Jr. TKO7 James McGirt Jr.
Friday at Miami[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Junior welterweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Santana, 24-3, 15 KOs; Lopez, 22-3, 13 KOs
Edgar Santana W10 Josesito Lopez
Scores: 95-93 (twice), 94-94
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: The first half of the fight? Terrible. The second half? Pretty darn good. Lopez, 23, who moved up from lightweight, scored two knockdowns in the eighth on body shots, but they were not enough to give him the decision in the "ShoBox" main event. After suffering the knockdowns, Santana, 29, rallied to dominate the final two frames and pull out the majority decision.[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: De Leon Jr., 20-2-2, 13 KOs; McGirt Jr., 18-1, 9 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: This was a meeting between the sons of former world champions. Carlos De Leon Sr. was a four-time cruiserweight titleholder and James "Buddy" McGirt Sr., who trains his son, won junior welterweight and welterweight titles. For five rounds you had to long for their dads in the ring because not much was happening. But it all changed in the sixth. McGirt, 25, dropped De Leon near the end of the sixth before De Leon, 28, gathered himself and came out firing in the seventh. McGirt, who was cut, went down twice under a hail of punches - including a hard left hook and uppercut -- before the referee stopped the fight after the second knockdown. It was a stunning turn of events and a good victory for De Leon.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]Friday at Sydney, Australia[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Super middleweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Bika, 26-3-2, 16 KOs; Kapusi, 18-12-3, 7 KOs
Sakio Bika KO1 Gustavo Javier Kapusi
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Australia's Bika made a triumphant return to the ring for his first fight since winning the third season of "The Contender" in November via thrilling eighth-round TKO against Jaidon Codrington in one of the best fights of 2007. Bika, 28, won the $750,000 grand prize for winning the tournament but now it's back to business. While awaiting a possible major fight later in the year, Bika blew away Kapusi, 34, of Argentina with a left to the body. It was only the second time Kapusi had fought outside of South America and it resulted in another knockout defeat, ending his three-fight winning streak.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]Wednesday at Augusta, Ga.[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Flyweight[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Whitfield, 21-0, 10 KOs; Vargas, 24-3, 10 KOs
Rayonta Whitfield W12 Manuel Vargas
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: In the season debut of "Wednesday Night Fights," Whitfield scored an important victory in front of his hometown crowd as he outboxed Vargas to earn a mandatory shot at titleholder Omar Narvaez. Vargas, who saw his 21-fight winning streak end, came on strong in the late rounds, but Whitfield had put rounds in the bank. He was a bit quicker and more precise with his shots than Vargas. Although one of the judges scored the fight a draw, Whitfield sure looked like he had the distinct edge.[/td] [/tr][/table]
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Lets get this Calzaghe!
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I was just in the ESPN Hopkins chat and it is over.
It lasted 15 minutes tops
It lasted 15 minutes tops
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String, this I went all the way to page 10 and couldnt find this thread, I thought it had got deleted
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yo, that was alreight tho.
I knew he would say RJJ was the best fighter he faced.
I didnt think he was gonn say PBF was Lb4Lb tho.
good @@@!!
I knew he would say RJJ was the best fighter he faced.
I didnt think he was gonn say PBF was Lb4Lb tho.
good @@@!!
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I'm all over the Sports forum and General.
Updating the Bulls off season thread and the CWS series threads.
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I'm all over the Sports forum and General.
Updating the Bulls off season thread and the CWS series threads.
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Not sure how I feel about 'Nard's chances against Calzaghe.
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Originally Posted by Proshares
I see you String, you're not worried the Sox might follow the path of the Bears and Bulls? Not saying your sig has anything to do with it.................................
You might be on to something.
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Every Thursday night ESPN CLASSIC shows replays of showtime fights. i keep forgeting to watch tho not sure how long its been on for think it just started
^^ A couple of weeks now. They showed Casamayor/Corrales 2 and Corrales/Castillo 1. Last night they showed Tackie/Hatton and Tszyu/Hatton which is the fightthat makes me loathe Ricky Hatton with ever bone in my body. Everything in the fight went for him in his hometown. Ref stepped in late, let Hatton hit on theback of the head, let him hold Tszyu's right hand down while he swung at him, moving Tszyu's head with his elbows...just made me hate him.
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Whats the number of people that are coming from the U.K.? The Hitman had a following of 20,000
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Calzaghe's following isn't QUITE as much as Hatton's. IMO, its because Hatton is from Manchester, and Joe is from Wales, so he's not the"hometown" guy to as many people, so they aren't quite as die-hard over him as they are Ricky.
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I see Joe Cal winning a UD. Bernard will NOT go punch for punch against Joe Cal. Bernard is drawing straws in saying he's going to TKO Joe Cal. Bernardbest chances for victory is counter punching, and Joe Cal punch rate is on higher levels for Bernard to keep up with counter punching Joe. I see a typical uglyHopkins hold & hit fight. Bernard was great in getting his opponents alittle off his mental game during press tours. I did not see Joe Cal rattled or evena bit scared of Hopkins verbal antics. I'm just glad this isn't a PPV fight.
