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Dan Rafael looking like a slob (guy walking down in front)


Hopkins-Calzaghe






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Round 2 Vid

 

[gunna get it]

lookin like a slob

 

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Any other info on this pic who is Lampley talking to??

 

[proshares]

String, why would you do that to Forbes man? Did you not see the 24/7 doesn't that make you want to see him win?

And on a personal note, would you mind putting up the Red Sox somewhere in your avy or sig?

Thanks.

 

[bigmike23]

can someone post DAN RAFAEL new blog?

His pound 4 pound rankings


1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (39-0, 25 KOs)


Welterweight champion
Hits: It's been at least a couple of weeks since we've heard him brag that he is the greatest fighter of all time. Do you think it ispossible for him to go another few weeks?
Misses: Instead of a pointless rematch/business deal with Oscar De La Hoya in September, Mayweather should instead be focused on fighting thewinner of the July match between Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito at the end of the year. That's the fight the fans and media want to see themost.

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2. Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs)


Light heavyweight and super middleweight champion
Hits: Even when he didn't have his best night, Calzaghe still successfully came to America and edged tough-as-nails Bernard Hopkins toclaim the light heavyweight world championship by overcoming early adversity, including a first-round knockdown, and dominating down the stretch.
Misses: In the opinion of many at ringside, including one of the official judges, Hopkins deserved a one-point victory. Calzaghe's puncheswere not crisp and were usually pretty wide. What happened to the pinpoint puncher we've all seen for so many years?

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3. Manny Pacquiao (46-3-2, 34 KOs)


Junior lightweight champion
Hits: Mr. Entertainment is not only a terrific fighter, but he is always in entertaining bouts. Quick -- can you name one Pacquiao fight thatwas dull? Didn't think so. His June 28 challenge of lightweight titleholder David Diaz figures to be another fan-friendly fight.
Misses: There's nothing wrong with Pacquiao moving up in weight to challenge Diaz for a lightweight belt, but come on. We all want to seea third fight with Marquez.

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4. Juan Manuel Marquez (48-4-1, 35 KOs)


Junior lightweight
Hits: Although he's 0-1-1 against Pacquiao in two spectacular fights, you can absolutely make a legitimate argument that Marquez deservedboth decisions, despite being knocked down a total of four times in the two fights. The fights were so good that a third bout is inevitable, which is good forall boxing fans.
Misses: With Pacquiao moving up to lightweight for a fight in June and not committed to a third fight with Marquez this year, Marquez could bewaiting awhile to get him again.

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5. Miguel Cotto (32-0, 25 KOs)


Welterweight titlist
Hits: His fifth-round destruction of thoroughly overmatched "Contender" star Alfonso Gomez was a flawless performance and set thestage for what could be the fight of the year, a must-see showdown with Antonio Margarito on July 26. That fight can't get here soon enough.
Misses: Cotto is almost too respectful for his own good. It would be nice to hear him, for once, authoritatively call out Mayweather ratherthan be such a nice guy about it.

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6. Bernard Hopkins (48-5-1, 32 KOs)


Light heavyweight
Hits: Came out of the gate very strong against Calzaghe, scored a first-round knockdown and was roughing him up through the first half of thefight. Despite a lot of holding and fading down the stretch, many believed he still did enough to hang on to his title.
Misses: Hopkins fought such a negative fight. He grabbed and clutched even more than he usually does and tried to stink Calzaghe out. And hewas obviously trying to con referee Joe Cortez into giving him a timeout and taking a point from Calzaghe after a 10th-round low blow that wasn't nearly asbad as Hopkins, who deserves an Academy Award, made it look.

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7. Kelly Pavlik (33-0, 29 KOs)


Middleweight champion
Hits: One of boxing's bright young stars has many interesting possible super fights in his future, especially when he eventually moves upto super middleweight or even light heavyweight. Before that happens, however, promoter Bob Arum is talking about a showdown with titlist Arthur Abraham eitherin December or early next year.
Misses: Pavlik is slated to defend against undeserving mandatory challenger Gary Lockett on June 7. Few are expecting much from the fight. Itdoesn't help matters that Arum is already planning a September fight against Marco Antonio Rubio, another opponent who lacks star power.

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8. Israel Vazquez (43-4, 32 KOs)


Junior featherweight champion
Hits: His thrilling trilogy with Rafael Marquez was so sensational that Showtime, which aired all three remarkable fights, is producing adocumentary on the unforgettable series. It is well deserved and I can't wait to see it.
Misses: It would be understandable if Vazquez opted to take another fight later this year instead of a much-discussed fourth bout withMarquez, but it would be disappointing. Where else can he make as big a payday?

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9. Rafael Marquez (37-5, 33 KOs)


Junior featherweight
Hits: Sure, Marquez lost the second and third bouts to Vazquez but that does nothing whatsoever to diminish the anticipation of seeing hisnext fight. Whether he won or lost isn't important. Because of the way he fought during their 25 epic rounds, Marquez will never be forgotten.
Misses: If there is a fourth fight, and Marquez happens to lose, please, let's skip the postfight news conference so nobody has to hearhim and his handlers complain about how they were robbed. The bitterly complained about the stoppage in the second fight, which was on the money, and they alsorelentlessly whined about the decision in the third fight, which was dead on.

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10. Winky Wright (51-4-1, 25 KOs)


Middleweight
Hits: Anyone have any ideas?
Misses: The Winkster has not fought since losing a competitive decision to Hopkins last summer and is the odd man out with no big fight on thehorizon. He has torpedoed his own career because of his wacky financial demands. Shoulda taken that $5 million rematch with Jermain Taylor way backwhen.

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The next 10

11. Shane Mosley
12. Oscar De La Hoya
13. Ricky Hatton
14. Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
15. Jermain Taylor
16. Chris John
17. Antonio Margarito
18. Joan Guzman
19. Nate Campbell
20. Juan Diaz

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

[h1]Dan Rafae's 4/23 Blog
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[h1]Vegas' newest competitor[/h1]
posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 | Print Entry

Your weekly random thoughts …
• The Joe Calzaghe-Bernard Hopkins fight marked the first boxing event hosted by Robert Earl's Planet Hollywood casino, the latest player on the Las Vegas fight scene. Earl seems serious about being in boxing for the long haul, despite obviously losing money on Calzaghe-Hopkins, for which he dramatically overpaid by putting up $9 million (he'll learn how to evaluate site fees better in the future, I hope). Despite the lackluster ticket sales for Calzaghe-Hopkins, Planet Hollywood has two other events already scheduled, Chris Byrd's light heavyweight debut against Shaun George May 16 on ESPN2 and the July 5 Ricardo Torres-Kendall Holt junior welterweight title rematch on Showtime. I hope Earl and Planet Hollywood stick in boxing for years to come. The casino did a marvelous job hosting last week's event and, at least from my perspective as a media member, the entire staff went out of its way to be helpful and make the press feel welcome with whatever we needed. Besides, it's always good to have more than one casino competing for big fights. Las Vegas has been more or less a one-company show since the MGM Mirage bought out Mandalay Bay a couple of years ago. Planet Hollywood has a terrific 7,000-seat theater, which hosted the Calzaghe-Hopkins weigh-in and is perfect for boxing. It will serve as the arena where rising British lightweight star Amir Khan will make his U.S. debut later this year thanks to a deal made between Earl and promoter Frank Warren.

• Calzaghe's big win against Hopkins sure gave his father and trainer, Enzo Calzaghe, a big boost. It had been a rough several weeks for Enzo, whose two other world titleholders lost their belts and undefeated records in March as cruiserweight Enzo Maccarinelli was starched in two rounds by David Haye on March 8 and junior welterweight Gavin Rees was stopped in the 12th round by Andreas Kotelnik on March 22.

• After his recent cancer scare, it was nice to hear Michael Buffer return to the mic last week for Calzaghe-Hopkins. Here's to many more years of getting ready to rumble.

• The Calzaghe-Hopkins undercard was absolutely pathetic, one of the worst I have ever seen. It's a shame that the fans who turned out to the arena were treated to one blatant mismatch after another. When Audley Harrison is facing Jason Barnett in the co-feature, you know there is a problem. Sure, it's nice to see young prospects such as Danny Garcia and Daniel Jacobs in the early stages of their pro careers, but this undercard offered absolutely nothing in the way of a serious fight. That was especially disappointing because the tickets were so overpriced.

• The folks from Wales clearly have more manners than the folks from England. When Ricky Hatton came to the United States for his fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in December, the rowdy English fans relentlessly booed the American national anthem in a disgraceful scene. But I have to give credit to the fans Calzaghe brought across the pond. They showed a lot of class by behaving themselves and showing the utmost respect during our anthem.

• Roy Jones vs. Calzaghe? Bring it on. It's the biggest fight that can be made in the light heavyweight division, and I give Jones a legitimate chance of winning despite the advanced stage of his career that he is at. Any chance of a rematch between Jones and Hopkins ever being made seemingly went down the drain with BHop's loss.

• I was very impressed with Tomasz Adamek, who took former undisputed cruiserweight champion O'Neil Bell apart and made him quit after seven rounds last Saturday. The win earned him a mandatory shot at titleholder Steve Cunningham and, if you ask me, I think Cunningham-Adamek will be a really good, competitive fight. It would make an excellent fight for Showtime, which has televised a number of recent cruiserweight fights. It would also make an excellent "Boxing After Dark" match on HBO.

• Paging Winky Wright.

• How many days until Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito? While we're at it, how many days until Arthur Abraham-Edison Miranda II?

• If you like knockouts hit up youtube.com and check out European middleweight champion Sebastian Sylvester's 12th-round drillage of Javier Castillejo from a couple of weeks ago. It was spectacular.

• People always ask me about which division I think is the worst. At the moment, I have to say that it is, without question, junior middleweight. There are four titleholders with no star power in Vernon Forrest, Joachim Alcine, Verno Phillips and Sergei Dzindziruk. None of the possible unification bouts between them is even all that interesting.

• DVD pick of the week: This is not a classic fight but it has special meaning to me, so I broke out Lennox Lewis' heavyweight championship defense against Michael Grant from April 29, 2000. Lewis destroyed the overhyped Grant in two rounds at Madison Square Garden. So, what's the big deal? It was a special night for me because it was the first heavyweight championship fight I ever covered and the first fight I covered as the full-time boxing writer for USA Today. It was eight years ago next week. Seems like yesterday.

 

[bigmike23]

• Paging Winky Wright.

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dude is a idiot next time he fights he will lose also cause of the long lay off

 

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• How many days until Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito? While we're at it, how many days until Arthur Abraham-Edison Miranda II?

Those two are the only big time summer time fights

Whats up with Jermaine Taylor??

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

The only two announced so far at least. The total summer fight schedule won't be done until about the end of may/early june. Its early yet, i have faiththat there will be some others.

Also, anybody wanna donate some money so i can hop on a plane out to Florida for Abraham-Miranda II?

 

[jagshemash]

Any other info on this pic who is Lampley talking to??
I have no idea, I didn't recognize him. They were just taking boxing briefly...

Calzaghe #2 on the P4P list seems kind of high to me. I could understand if he beat Hopkins convincingly, instead he won arguable decision. Maybe somewherebetween #3-5 would be more appropriate with Pacquiao ahead of him.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Naw, i think Calz should be ahead of Manny, barely. Manny is coming off his own questionable decision, and has actually lost in the past couple of years. Calzis still unbeaten, and finally fighting good opposition, and now is a legit World Champ in 2 different weight-classes. Those 2 are pretty much interchangeable,but i'd personally slightly lean to Calzaghe, even though i'd REALLY like to see him lose.

 

[jagshemash]

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree with that one. I just think Pacquiao has a more impressive resume and he's beaten better fighters moreconvincingly. Even though the Marquez decision was questionable Marquez is still a higher P4P fighter then Hopkins according to Rafael so I think he deservesthe edge.

 

[dako akong otin]

dope pics!

 

[lesgodsonc0]

Anybody watchin' Wednesday Night Fights?

@ that KO by Juan Urango. Right on the chin...

If I remember correctly, Amo (Sorry, i'm still callin' you by your old name

) spoke highly of him dating back to the fight w/ Hatton.

Guy has crazy power, but he needs to develop a jab and tighten up that defense. He leaves himself too open at times...

EDIT:

DVD pick of the week: This is not a classic fight but it has special meaning to me, so I broke out Lennox Lewis' heavyweight championship defense against Michael Grant from April 29, 2000. Lewis destroyed the overhyped Grant in two rounds at Madison Square Garden.
SMH @ Michael Grant. The next "great" american heavyweight. Yeah right...hype at it's finest.

 

[gunna get it]

please tell em someone else is watching wed night fights
Urango almost killed this dude!

 

[mextra45]

Vilches got put on the highlight reel , that right hook was mean

That Vazquez guy was putting a hurting on that Mr.Marcus look alike he had a chin though

 

[gunna get it]

Estrada

btw Urango is the biggest 140 lb dude Ive ever seen in my life.

 

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the rowdy English fans relentlessly booed the American national anthem in a disgraceful scene.
Yet the drunken, highly unemployed English call us barbarians & savages.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Originally Posted by LESGodSonC0

Anybody watchin' Wednesday Night Fights?

@ that KO by Juan Urango. Right on the chin...

If I remember correctly, Amo (Sorry, i'm still callin' you by your old name

) spoke highly of him dating back to the fight w/ Hatton.

Guy has crazy power, but he needs to develop a jab and tighten up that defense. He leaves himself too open at times...

EDIT:

DVD pick of the week: This is not a classic fight but it has special meaning to me, so I broke out Lennox Lewis' heavyweight championship defense against Michael Grant from April 29, 2000. Lewis destroyed the overhyped Grant in two rounds at Madison Square Garden.

SMH @ Michael Grant. The next "great" american heavyweight. Yeah right...hype at it's finest.

My man Urango

. I flew up outta my seat when that punch landed. What is it about them colombian boys where they all got dynamite in their fists? AndLes, don't worry, everyone else still calls me Amo, so its no big deal. As far as Urango is concerned, my opinion on him hasn't changed, he is verygood at what he does, and if you stand in and try to slug with him you're out of your damn mind, but any boxer with good movement can beat him. Hedoesn't jab his way in, and he isn't very good at cutting off the ring, although he did look a LITTLE bit better at that tonight than he has in thepast, he still wasn't very good at it. The thing i was happy to see was his punch output was fairly high again. He threw 190 punches in 3.5 rounds,coming out to about 55 punches around even while spending a lot of the round just chasing Vilches down. Against Hatton he only threw like 30-35 punches aroundin that fight, because his trainers for that fight wanted to turn him into a counter-puncher for some reason. I still think Urango has the tools to beatHatton. The one round where Urango throw about 60 punches at Hatton, he won easily and hurt him to the body. He just has to keep the punch output high, andavoid anyone who will move away from him all night, and Urango will be ok.

 

[bigmike23]

LAS VEGAS - The Nevada Athletic Commission is getting proactive in its bid to stop the use of anabolic steroids and drugs of abuse among boxers and mixed martial artists.

While the commission has long conducted post-fight drug testing, the commission earlier this month conducted surprise drug tests on two high-profile boxers and a big-name UFC star.

Boxers Shane Mosley and Zab Judah, who meet in a welterweight bout at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on May 31, as well as UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn, were randomly tested earlier this month.

"I'm very pleased to tell you that all of their tests came back clean," Kizer said.

Sean Sherk, who fights Penn for the title on May 24 at Mandalay Bay in Vegas, was tested, though he was aware he would be tested. Sherk, who recently came off a lengthy steroid suspension in California, is required to provide a clean test before he can be licensed in Nevada.

His results have not come back.

Mosley, Judah and Penn passed the random tests for anabolic steroids, diuretics, amphetamines, marijuana, cocaine, opiates and phencyclidine. Mosley gave his sample on April 12, Judah on April 15 and Penn on April 17, Kizer said.

Random drug testing was a recommendation to the commission by the Committee on Boxer Health and Safety, which was created by former Nevada Gov. Kenny Guinn after a pair of in-ring deaths in Las Vegas in 2005.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

^Doesn't matter, Mosley's probably on HGH by now anyway. Good to see neither guy got caught up for something stupid like weed or coke.

 

[gunna get it]

^Doesn't matter, Mosley's probably on HGH by now anyway

 

[mfr3shm]

Why the hate for Mosley? Shane will run through Zab "No More Super" Judah

 

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Nevada amends glove-size rule to lure Cotto-Margarito

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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Updated: April 25, 2008, 1:49 PM ET

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The Nevada State Athletic Commission on Thursday amended its rule for glove size, putting Las Vegas into the hunt to land the much-anticipated July 26 bout between welterweight titleholder Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito.

Cotto and Margarito have always fought in 8-ounce gloves and prefer to continue fighting in them. But under a provisional rule that has been used for the past couple of years in Nevada, boxers who weighed more than the 135-pound lightweight limit had to wear 10-ounce gloves.

In virtually every other jurisdiction in the world, fighters wear 8-ounce gloves up to the 147-pound welterweight class with 10-ounce gloves being worn in fights over 147 pounds.

Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes Puerto Rico's Cotto and Mexico's Margarito, wanted the fight to take place in 8-ounce gloves, as did the fighters, and pursued a meeting with the Nevada commission to talk it over.

Without the change, Arum said he would not consider Las Vegas for the fight. He has been talking to New York's Madison Square Garden and Atlantic City, N.J., about hosting the HBO PPV fight.

With the rule amended, there is a good chance the fight will take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Arum told ESPN.com.

The Nevada commission had made the provisional rule in order to study a possible link between glove size and ring injuries.

At Thursday's meeting, the commission voted 4-0 [one commissioner was absent] to allow lightweight and welterweight fighters the option of using 8- or 10-ounce gloves. If the camps can't agree, the default glove size will be 10 ounces, commission executive director Keith Kizer said.

"We found no evidence that an 8-ounce glove would be significantly less safe than a 10-ounce glove in those weight classes," Kizer said. "We did the study. It's good that we did. Now, instead of the commission telling the boxers [in those weight divisions] what they have to wear, we're giving the fighters a little more choice."

Said Arum: "It means that Las Vegas has opened up as an option for the fight. The Cotto team is flying in to visit with me on Tuesday and then we'll have a decision. But the glove size was important. Both of them have always fought in 8-ounce gloves."

Gloves aside, Arum wants the fight in Las Vegas because he believes it will improve the pay-per-view performance by attracting more West Coast media coverage and more interest from Mexican and Mexican-American fans. Many of the media members on the West Coast rarely travel east to cover fights. East Coast media members are more likely to go to Vegas to cover fights.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Originally Posted by MFr3shM

Why the hate for Mosley? Shane will run through Zab "No More Super" Judah

No hate, Mosley's a real good fighter. He's just a real good fighter who was/is juicing.