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Huh? Splitter has been the the league for only 4 yearsI'm not understanding how you're comparing the development of a guy that's been playing professional basketball for 14 years to that of someone who's been playing 2
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Huh? Splitter has been the the league for only 4 yearsI'm not understanding how you're comparing the development of a guy that's been playing professional basketball for 14 years to that of someone who's been playing 2
Huh? Splitter has been the the league for only 4 years
A hurt Kyrie was better than anything in that draft that year & Kyrie is a 2x All-Star, that's the closet that Cleveland will get to having a superstarBut even with that being said, Kyrie hasnt developed into a border-line superstar?
Because the last time I checked, he wasnt a unanimous decision to go #1 pick because of his injuries.
75% of the players on the current Cavs roster haven't even been in the league for more than 3 years, how could you even talk about "develop into something"??
c'mon man. Do you watch basketball or do you just skim through it.
Are we really counting overseas ball? Heck Adam Morrison is a star overseas!hes been playing pro ball overseas for a long time
A hurt Kyrie was better than anything in that draft that year & Kyrie is a 2x All-Star, that's the closet that Cleveland will get to having a superstarBut even with that being said, Kyrie hasnt developed into a border-line superstar?
Because the last time I checked, he wasnt a unanimous decision to go #1 pick because of his injuries.
You sound pretty clueless.
Are we really counting overseas ball? Heck Adam Morrison is a star overseas!
Few said Derrick Williams, I'll give you that, but Kemba Walker.... I never heard one person even consider thatOhhhh...so people weren't saying to draft Derrick Williams as #1? Or even Kemba Walker?
Kyrie wasn't a for a sure #1. Quit spewing nonsense bro.
Tristan Thompson was a reach at 4 almost averages a double double. Realistically, what was ever expected of him?
Who on their roster would have exactly benefitted from being elsewhere besides Cleveland? Don't just name 10th and 11th men on the roster either.
My point is overseas success doesn't translate into NBA success, regardless of what league. Yi Jianlian was the top player in the CBA, arguably one of the best overseas leagues, and fizzed out of the NBA in a matter of years
You sound pretty clueless.
Tiago played in one the top leagues in all of Europe...and was the MVP multiple times.
Adam Morrison is not a star overseas...he avg'd 15 a game a few years ago in a lesser league.
"Overseas" is not just one big league.
75% of the players on the current Cavs roster haven't even been in the league for more than 3 years, how could you even talk about "develop into something"??
c'mon man. Do you watch basketball or do you just skim through it.
this is my first time chatting with you. are you always like this? are you a troll? what evidence is there that the cavs are a top flight organization in any aspect, specifically developing raw, unpolished players with very limited experience. The Lakers have that on their resume, what player can you point to that the Cavs have done that with?
Tristan Thompson was a reach at 4 almost averages a double double. Realistically, what was ever expected of him?
Who on their roster would have exactly benefitted from being elsewhere besides Cleveland? Don't just name 10th and 11th men on the roster either.
is the development of tristan thompson enough to make you feel confident that embiid will go there and flourish to his highest flourishment? that's really what I'm getting at
My point is overseas success doesn't translate into NBA success, regardless of what league. Yi Jianlian was the top player in the CBA, arguably one of the best overseas leagues, and fizzed out of the NBA in a matter of years
You sound pretty clueless.
Tiago played in one the top leagues in all of Europe...and was the MVP multiple times.
Adam Morrison is not a star overseas...he avg'd 15 a game a few years ago in a lesser league.
"Overseas" is not just one big league.
When did I say he was a bum player?tiago splitter in ACB league, one if not the best league outside the NBA
he wasnt just a player, dude was a mvp and all-leaguer
youve been listening to too much stephen a, if you think he is a bum player
Who ever said the Cavs were a top-flight organization? You speak as if it's the norm in the NBA to develop raw, unpolished players with limited experience. The Cavs have done exactly the same thing 29 other franchise have done with their drafted players. If you firmly believe that the Cavs are a franchise where players can't develop, than you're being very naive.
Do you know how many teams in the NBA have drafted BUMS? BUMS, who people projected to be great? What happened to Derrick WIlliams? Ennis Kanter? Greg Odom? Etc.?
And specifically, what players have the Lakers drafted that have blossomed into a legit star via development?
Bleacher Report ranked it in their Top 10 and DimeMag ranked it in their Top 5 for overseas leaguesthe CBA is not a top tier leauge. where did you even read that?
Bleacher Report ranked it in their Top 10 and DimeMag ranked it in their Top 5, for overseas leaguesthe CBA is not a top tier leauge. where did you even read that?
You asked me where, and I told you. I could have said LeBron, Kobe, and MJ told me personally, and you still wouldn't have agreed.you and i could write for bleacher and dimemag if we really wanted to
Who ever said the Cavs were a top-flight organization? You speak as if it's the norm in the NBA to develop raw, unpolished players with limited experience. The Cavs have done exactly the same thing 29 other franchise have done with their drafted players. If you firmly believe that the Cavs are a franchise where players can't develop, than you're being very naive.
Do you know how many teams in the NBA have drafted BUMS? BUMS, who people projected to be great? What happened to Derrick WIlliams? Ennis Kanter? Greg Odom? Etc.?
And specifically, what players have the Lakers drafted that have blossomed into a legit star via development?
Andrew Bynum was a complete and utter project and the Lakers molded him into a top 2 center.
the way you keep shifting focus to every other team except the cavs is all I need to know
You asked me where, and I told you. I could have said LeBron, Kobe, and MJ told me personally, and you still wouldn't have agreed.you and i could write for bleacher and dimemag if we really wanted to
Andrew Bynum.75% of the players on the current Cavs roster haven't even been in the league for more than 3 years, how could you even talk about "develop into something"??
c'mon man. Do you watch basketball or do you just skim through it.
this is my first time chatting with you. are you always like this? are you a troll? what evidence is there that the cavs are a top flight organization in any aspect, specifically developing raw, unpolished players with very limited experience. The Lakers have that on their resume, what player can you point to that the Cavs have done that with?
Who ever said the Cavs were a top-flight organization? You speak as if it's the norm in the NBA to develop raw, unpolished players with limited experience. The Cavs have done exactly the same thing 29 other franchise have done with their drafted players. If you firmly believe that the Cavs are a franchise where players can't develop, than you're being very naive.
Do you know how many teams in the NBA have drafted BUMS? BUMS, who people projected to be great? What happened to Derrick WIlliams? Ennis Kanter? Greg Odom? Etc.?
And specifically, what players have the Lakers drafted that have blossomed into a legit star via development?