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2014 NBA Draft Thread
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seen that vid, very well rounded offensively. I really like his game.
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Complete this sentence: The biggest bust of the 2014 Draft Class will be _______ because ________.
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Stop, dude is nice. Even if he's not the most athletic, he can pass, he can get to the rim, he may not be the most explosive finisher but he can score. he has very good handles, great court vision, high IQ.
someone will hone him into an NBA role player, they'll work on his conditioning.
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So many definitions of the term bust so many variables
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Chopped and Screwed will for sure be in the L.
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He wont handle the ball in the league like hes used to, i see boris diaw at best but i doubt he sees any real mins early in his career
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He doesn't even look that. I wanna see what his body fat percentage is.Jabari Parker is 240
They said he lost 10 pounds so 230.
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nobody is expecting him to play a ton of minutes early on.
he's a project, but a potentially rewarding one.
point forwards rarely work out, but when they do, they can create mismatches and give opposing teams headaches.
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what you did there, I seen't it.
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I could legitimately see Jabari leading the league in scoring at some point in his career.
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This is nice: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/r...l-scouts-on-wiggins-randle-embiid-and-parker/
Some samples:
Scout 1: If healthy, I’m taking him no. 1 and it’s not even close.
This is how it works: We use tiers. There could be five guys in a tier, it doesn’t matter what order. Some would have the first five guys in a tier (Embiid, Parker, Wiggins, Randle, and Exum). Say Vonleh and Gordon are in the second tier.
My top tier is Embiid, by himself.
I think Embiid is the only difference-maker in the group. I like Parker and Wiggins, but if they are your best player, you are going to be in the lottery every year.
Embiid has natural instincts. I doubt he was coached on much of this stuff, considering how quick his stops have been, and that he just started playing basketball. When he takes the ball on the low block, he inside-pivots like Duncan, and he plays from there: Faces, rips through or passes. It’s awesome. I always want bigs that can punish the defense.
His feet are great and he can block shots. Look at his numbers and look at his minutes. He has a chance to be a terrific player.
Scout 2: I think in the draft, if Embiid is healthy, Wiggins goes no. 3. He will be lost in an NBA half-court offense. He is great in transition, but he has no ball skills. All right hand, no idea what to do without the ball. He struggles with confidence. He actually reminds me more of Gerald Green than any of these studs he’s compared to.
He’s an erratic shooter and has no plan when attacking the rim. He will be easy to coach against with his limited game right now. Needs to find out what playing hard is. He tries hard, but I don’t see that second gear. He would scare me as your franchise’s no. 1 pick, with all the stuff that will go along with being no. 1 in this class. Is he really a face of the franchise?
Defensively he can be a stopper right away. A lot of these coaches want to break down these young guys and limit their minutes because they don’t trust them defensively. With him you can play him the minutes you need to develop him because, defensively, he’s already there.
Scout 3 (randle): I’ll admit, in high school, he made a bad first impression to me. It looked like he wanted to be Antoine Walker, selfish, almost greedy. But I’ll give him credit, he adjusted at Kentucky. Now he plays with a hard motor, competes, almost plays angry.
Awful passer, but he doesn’t want to pass anyway. He goes one way, tries to knock everyone over. He’s so left-hand dominant it was comical. If you put him in a gym by himself, could he make a right-handed layup? He’s a good athlete but didn’t always use it. A lot of his stuff, offensively, won’t work in the NBA. It’s going to be a huge adjustment for him. A lot of his **** is going to get sent back. His shot from 15-17 feet needs a ton of work. Good luck with that! He’ll be a worker but not a big-time scorer.
He’ll never be Zach Randolph.
Some samples:
Scout 1: If healthy, I’m taking him no. 1 and it’s not even close.
This is how it works: We use tiers. There could be five guys in a tier, it doesn’t matter what order. Some would have the first five guys in a tier (Embiid, Parker, Wiggins, Randle, and Exum). Say Vonleh and Gordon are in the second tier.
My top tier is Embiid, by himself.
I think Embiid is the only difference-maker in the group. I like Parker and Wiggins, but if they are your best player, you are going to be in the lottery every year.
Embiid has natural instincts. I doubt he was coached on much of this stuff, considering how quick his stops have been, and that he just started playing basketball. When he takes the ball on the low block, he inside-pivots like Duncan, and he plays from there: Faces, rips through or passes. It’s awesome. I always want bigs that can punish the defense.
His feet are great and he can block shots. Look at his numbers and look at his minutes. He has a chance to be a terrific player.
Scout 2: I think in the draft, if Embiid is healthy, Wiggins goes no. 3. He will be lost in an NBA half-court offense. He is great in transition, but he has no ball skills. All right hand, no idea what to do without the ball. He struggles with confidence. He actually reminds me more of Gerald Green than any of these studs he’s compared to.
He’s an erratic shooter and has no plan when attacking the rim. He will be easy to coach against with his limited game right now. Needs to find out what playing hard is. He tries hard, but I don’t see that second gear. He would scare me as your franchise’s no. 1 pick, with all the stuff that will go along with being no. 1 in this class. Is he really a face of the franchise?
Defensively he can be a stopper right away. A lot of these coaches want to break down these young guys and limit their minutes because they don’t trust them defensively. With him you can play him the minutes you need to develop him because, defensively, he’s already there.
Scout 3 (randle): I’ll admit, in high school, he made a bad first impression to me. It looked like he wanted to be Antoine Walker, selfish, almost greedy. But I’ll give him credit, he adjusted at Kentucky. Now he plays with a hard motor, competes, almost plays angry.
Awful passer, but he doesn’t want to pass anyway. He goes one way, tries to knock everyone over. He’s so left-hand dominant it was comical. If you put him in a gym by himself, could he make a right-handed layup? He’s a good athlete but didn’t always use it. A lot of his stuff, offensively, won’t work in the NBA. It’s going to be a huge adjustment for him. A lot of his **** is going to get sent back. His shot from 15-17 feet needs a ton of work. Good luck with that! He’ll be a worker but not a big-time scorer.
He’ll never be Zach Randolph.
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A scout used Gerald Green in the same sentence as Andrew Wiggins
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Scout #2 sounds like he's 13.
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So many things in that article that were said were discussed in length over the past year in these threads on NT. Funny to see unpopular opinions (at least on here) come out of scout's mouths
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pretty harsh words 
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Wonder what # Wiggins will rock if the Cavs take him.
22 is retired.
22 is retired.
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No chance.
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A rich man's Gerald Green isn't a bad comparison for Wiggins, especially the way Green played and improved this season. Green's jumper is obviously better, but Wiggins' defense is already top notch and will translate immediately. Then again, I said the same thing about MKG.
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It's a little funny to me how these guys are getting torn apart, whereas in drafts in recent years we've been reading these gushing reports where guys like MKG are getting built up. I get the sense that now that we finally have a draft with some solid talent the writers realize the nitpicking gets more attention.
I don't think the Wiggins criticisms are really fair. He has definite offensive talent.
Comparing him to Gerald Green is just seeking attention, to me.
I don't think the Wiggins criticisms are really fair. He has definite offensive talent.
Comparing him to Gerald Green is just seeking attention, to me.
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A scout used Gerald Green in the same sentence as Andrew Wiggins
that comparison isnt really that outlandish as some people think
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The same rabid dissection took place with Teddy Bridgewater and Johnny Manziel in the NFL Draft. I suppose it's the scouts' job to over critique and analyze every minuscule detail.
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Some on here already used that comparison
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I mean yes, they are both primarily exciting because of their athletic abilities and green busted because he didn't have anything else going for him... They have basically one major commonality, which is that they are both great athletes who play the same position.
